Do you support Trump for president?

[Laila619]

They all live in FL. I'm surrounded by morons.

LOL well there are plenty out in the burbs where we are too. Believe me. In the urban environment I am surrounded by more intelligent souls but out in the burbs let's just say the collective IQ goes down a bit.

DH and I went to the Strawberry Festival a few weeks ago (which is held an EXTREMELY rural area outside of Tampa) and it was like walking into a different world. Confederate flags, Trump t-shirts - these are the people voting for him.

We are moving to Chicago at the end of the year and it cannot come soon enough. I don't know if I can make it through this election cycle in swing state hell!

There are a TON of Trump supporters in IL too. He did take the state after all.

 

[Queenie60]

I don't like to get involved with all of the political postings however I need to speak my thoughts. I am very much of a conservative and always have been - despite growing up with a family of Democrats. However, there are many things I do not agree with the Republicans - I believe in human rights; Gay marriage and pro choice as I feel these are not political issues. Gays should have the right to marry and women should have the right to choose. However, I am very tired of paying high taxes. This year we paid taxes to the extent that we paid out 49% of our earnings in taxes. That's too much in my opinion. And yes, I'll admit that we are considered "wealthy" as we own a lot of real estate. And, the wealth did not just fall out of the sky and into our laps. We saved and lived below our means for many years to have the financial independence that we have. In summary, I will vote for the Republican Nominee, whoever that may be. I am not saying that I like Trump or am a Trump supporter but I am a Republican and will proudly vote Republican. I am not going to bash Obama or Hillary or Bernie however, their policies stink. That's my opinion and I respect the opinions of all of the Democrats out there. Just my input for what it's worth.

But Queenie,

The taxes you pay go to subsidize the big businesses that the Republican Party supports. If you are paying 49% of your income out in taxes, you aren't wealthy enough to vote Republican.

And that's what the Republican Party does. It hides behind the ruse that if you work hard enough, you can be wealthy like them. They support big business at the expense of the regular people and they sell you the idea that it is the poor who are eating up the taxes that you pay. Sigh.

http://www.alternet.org/robert-reich-corporate-welfare-destroying-our-economy-video

Sorry Housecat - while I respect you very much, I must disagree. The 49% is after all of the real estate write offs we have. Luckily we have those. In addition to income taxes, we also literally pay an Obama tax of 3% to 4%. Our medical insurance has gone up 90% this year due to the "affordable care act" - Hillary is running on the Obama platform which scares me. If she gets elected, the Democrats are going to continue to milk us for our income. I truly believe that they are increasingly turning our country into a socialist country. They continually take what we have worked for to redistribute. Too much government. I can go on and on however I'm not here to bash the liberals, I simply want to state my point of view. We have worked very hard for what we have and have wreaked the benefits of being self employed and financially independent. They're taxing me now and they want to tax me when I die. Unbelievable. And let's not forget, the democratic candidates as well as Obama have taken a lot of campaign dollars from large corporations. They're all in bed with the large corporations.

 

[liaerfbv]

As I predicted, it's acceptable to share negative opinions about Trump but not Hillery. Ha!
While Donald and Hillery share many political views, I was speaking more to personal attributes. Do you really think Hillery's all that?

It's totally acceptable to share negative opinions about Hillary Clinton. As I've said before, I think she's a liar who doesn't think the rules apply to her. I think she's in the pocket of big business. I'm not comfortable with her role in the Juanita Broadderick possible cover up (which I didn't know about until another poster brought it up in an earlier thread and I did my own reading).

However, if I have to compare the damage I think any of the Republican candidates (but in particular Trump) will do to our country to the worst she could possibly do as President, let me sing her praises. She is by far the most qualified, capable, and reasonable candidate in the field right now. Were she up against a more sane field of opponents, people might be more critical of her.

 

[Dancing Fire]

[quote="Queenie60

Sorry Housecat - while I respect you very much, I must disagree. The 49% is after all of the real estate write offs we have. Luckily we have those. In addition to income taxes, we also literally pay an Obama tax of 3% to 4%. Our medical insurance has gone up 90% this year due to the "affordable care act" - Hillary is running on the Obama platform which scares me. If she gets elected, the Democrats are going to continue to milk us for our income. I truly believe that they are increasingly turning our country into a socialist country. They continually take what we have worked for to redistribute. Too much government. I can go on and on however I'm not here to bash the liberals, I simply want to state my point of view. We have worked very hard for what we have and have wreaked the benefits of being self employed and financially independent. They're taxing me now and they want to tax me when I die. Unbelievable. And let's not forget, the democratic candidates as well as Obama have taken a lot of campaign dollars from large corporations. They're all in bed with the large corporations. [/quote]



The UNaffordable care act!.. Queenie for Prez. in 2016 ...

 

[AnnaH]

I'd say four more Obama years is serious damage. Hillery could be worse than Trump. I'm not entirely sure that there's
much difference. Donald was a liberal democrat until recently. I suspect that Trump may have run as a democrat if he had known what a bad candidate Clinton would make. Too bad he chose to change parties. Too bad for Republicans, that is.

 

[AnnaH]

By the way, I don't think Trump can beat Hillery. But I've underestimated him before. Who knows.
There's a small chance that he won't get the nomination, though it's unlikely.

 

[Dancing Fire]

[quote="liaerfbv|

However, if I have to compare the damage I think any of the Republican candidates (but in particular Trump) will do to our country to the worst she could possibly do as President, let me sing her praises. She is by far the most qualified, capable, and reasonable candidate in the field right now. Were she up against a more sane field of opponents, people might be more critical of her.[/quote]


Why, just b/c she can bark??..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WovYnLL9Yow

 

[Amber St. Clare]

As I predicted, it's acceptable to share negative opinions about Trump but not Hillery. Ha!
While Donald and Hillery share many political views, I was speaking more to personal attributes. Do you really think Hillery's all that?

It's totally acceptable to share negative opinions about Hillary Clinton. As I've said before, I think she's a liar who doesn't think the rules apply to her. I think she's in the pocket of big business. I'm not comfortable with her role in the Juanita Broadderick possible cover up (which I didn't know about until another poster brought it up in an earlier thread and I did my own reading).

However, if I have to compare the damage I think any of the Republican candidates (but in particular Trump) will do to our country to the worst she could possibly do as President, let me sing her praises. She is by far the most qualified, capable, and reasonable candidate in the field right now. Were she up against a more sane field of opponents, people might be more critical of her.

As much a I despise the Clintons {and man do I despise them} I will vote against Trump and vote for her if I have to. I have always been appalled at the zeal with which she slimed all her husband's bimbos but if the alternative is that vulgarian racist/sexist xenophobe she's got my vote. She's seasoned and understands the world players and can play the game.

Cruz I just as bad. So I think the democratic nominee will be a shoe-in.

 

[House Cat]

I don't like to get involved with all of the political postings however I need to speak my thoughts. I am very much of a conservative and always have been - despite growing up with a family of Democrats. However, there are many things I do not agree with the Republicans - I believe in human rights; Gay marriage and pro choice as I feel these are not political issues. Gays should have the right to marry and women should have the right to choose. However, I am very tired of paying high taxes. This year we paid taxes to the extent that we paid out 49% of our earnings in taxes. That's too much in my opinion. And yes, I'll admit that we are considered "wealthy" as we own a lot of real estate. And, the wealth did not just fall out of the sky and into our laps. We saved and lived below our means for many years to have the financial independence that we have. In summary, I will vote for the Republican Nominee, whoever that may be. I am not saying that I like Trump or am a Trump supporter but I am a Republican and will proudly vote Republican. I am not going to bash Obama or Hillary or Bernie however, their policies stink. That's my opinion and I respect the opinions of all of the Democrats out there. Just my input for what it's worth.

But Queenie,

The taxes you pay go to subsidize the big businesses that the Republican Party supports. If you are paying 49% of your income out in taxes, you aren't wealthy enough to vote Republican.

And that's what the Republican Party does. It hides behind the ruse that if you work hard enough, you can be wealthy like them. They support big business at the expense of the regular people and they sell you the idea that it is the poor who are eating up the taxes that you pay. Sigh.

http://www.alternet.org/robert-reich-corporate-welfare-destroying-our-economy-video

Sorry Housecat - while I respect you very much, I must disagree. The 49% is after all of the real estate write offs we have. Luckily we have those. In addition to income taxes, we also literally pay an Obama tax of 3% to 4%. Our medical insurance has gone up 90% this year due to the "affordable care act" - Hillary is running on the Obama platform which scares me. If she gets elected, the Democrats are going to continue to milk us for our income. I truly believe that they are increasingly turning our country into a socialist country. They continually take what we have worked for to redistribute. Too much government. I can go on and on however I'm not here to bash the liberals, I simply want to state my point of view. We have worked very hard for what we have and have wreaked the benefits of being self employed and financially independent. They're taxing me now and they want to tax me when I die. Unbelievable. And let's not forget, the democratic candidates as well as Obama have taken a lot of campaign dollars from large corporations. They're all in bed with the large corporations.

Thanks for your gentle response Queenie.

this is a good lesson for me... I never know it all! LOL!

 

[Niel]

As I predicted, it's acceptable to share negative opinions about Trump but not Hillery. Ha!
While Donald and Hillery share many political views, I was speaking more to personal attributes. Do you really think Hillery's all that?

Nope. I just think a pile of dead mice would be a more respectable candidate than Trump. Therefore, any candidate isn't quite on the same level
I don't believe in the lemming vote-the-party line stance. Either way.

 

[luv2sparkle]

I despise both Hillary and Trump. At this point I have no idea who to vote for or even if I will vote. In my wildest imaginings would I have thought that there would not be a single candidate who had any integrity.

 

[Marquise_Madness]

No. I think Trump is incredibly charismatic and candid, but he isn't tactful enough to hold public office. A lot of his early campaign was very hateful toward immigrants and Muslims. He has calmed down a bit but I don't see him as a leader. An icon, yes.

I find him absolutely fascinating and I would like to have a drink with him.

 

[Dancing Fire]

Only 9 Trump supporters here?

 

[kenny]

Only 9 Trump supporters here?

Every else is totally 100% in love with Hillary Clinton.

 

[Maria D]

Only 9 Trump supporters here?

I fully support Trump winning the Republican nomination; does that count?

 

[MarionC]

Poppy for POTUS


It's about time we had an intelligent compassionate & fun president.

 

[jordyonbass]

While I wouldn't support him as a president, I do believe he genuinely wants to make a difference. Whether his ideas on how to approach the job would be successful is a different debate but the reality is that he has no real financial interest in the job. It pays a lot less than what he is already doing so unless his plight is 100% ego driven then his intentions may actually be good.

 

[MarionC]

While I wouldn't support him as a president, I do believe he genuinely wants to make a difference. Whether his ideas on how to approach the job would be successful is a different debate but the reality is that he has no real financial interest in the job. It pays a lot less than what he is already doing so unless his plight is 100% ego driven then his intentions may actually be good.

The job doesn't pay that well for anyone-400k a year. Especially considering what it does to your health.

 

[Dancing Fire]

While I wouldn't support him as a president, I do believe he genuinely wants to make a difference. Whether his ideas on how to approach the job would be successful is a different debate but the reality is that he has no real financial interest in the job. It pays a lot less than what he is already doing so unless his plight is 100% ego driven then his intentions may actually be good.

The job doesn't pay that well for anyone-400k a year. Especially considering what it does to your health.

Trump probably wouldn't take a pay check IF he is elected POTUS.

 

[missy]

While I wouldn't support him as a president, I do believe he genuinely wants to make a difference. Whether his ideas on how to approach the job would be successful is a different debate but the reality is that he has no real financial interest in the job. It pays a lot less than what he is already doing so unless his plight is 100% ego driven then his intentions may actually be good.

The job doesn't pay that well for anyone-400k a year. Especially considering what it does to your health.

I don't think anyone goes for the POTUS position for the money. Honestly, I feel most people running for President are narcissistic egomaniacs. Anyway, anyone who becomes POTUS will have lots of economic opportunities after their term(s) as President and will become filthy rich if they weren't before they entered the Presidency.

 

[liaerfbv]

The job doesn't pay that well for anyone-400k a year. Especially considering what it does to your health.

Trump probably wouldn't take a pay check IF he is elected POTUS.[/quote]


Good one, DF. Not only would he take the paycheck, he would find some way to increase it. I can only imagine how much he thinks he deserves to be paid as President considering he values his own name at $3 billion.

 

[packrat]

He'd probably try to find a way to file bankruptcy for the nation and stand around and expect someone to take care of the debt. Then he can start a brand new nation, Trumpopia.

 

[Gabors]

I am so over this nonsense if income equality!!!!!

I want a candidate that will put this country back to work and in a position to provide for themselves.

Like Queenie, I am tired of paying waaayyyy too much in taxes. If your paying too much then your earning too much.... Wrong. Do what we do have have done for 30 years to provide for our family and employ hundreds of people.... Then tell me you are entitled to what we have done while you have not.

Our current president has created a chasm of divide in this country. It is very sad!

He is about to become the 1% he always refers to, and trust me. He will be using all those tax loopholes to protect his own assets.

I am no where near the 1% but I am a small business owner and that legislation ties the hands of and taxes unreasonably. And it's well over 55%. This none sense of a 38% cap tax bracket is again a gov illusion that they dish to the public.


In addition, I am an immigrant that came to this country "legally". Have produced jobs, income and health insurance for hundreds of people. And yet, our candidates can't take enough of our hard earned income

We are done. Give me a candidate that wants to take less of our profits.

And yes, working hard entitles you to PROFITS.

Our children really are stuck in a society that makes it better to survive on less because then you have entitlements that don't exist for producers of this country. Because if you have any profits to speak of them you become the enemy.... Because it perceived that you are not sharing enough of it......

 

[Queenie60]

I am so over this nonsense if income equality!!!!!

I want a candidate that will put this country back to work and in a position to provide for themselves.

Like Queenie, I am tired of paying waaayyyy too much in taxes. If your paying too much then your earning too much.... Wrong. Do what we do have have done for 30 years to provide for our family and employ hundreds of people.... Then tell me you are entitled to what we have done while you have not.

Our current president has created a chasm of divide in this country. It is very sad!

He is about to become the 1% he always refers to, and trust me. He will be using all those tax loopholes to protect his own assets.

I am no where near the 1% but I am a small business owner and that legislation ties the hands of and taxes unreasonably. And it's well over 55%. This none sense of a 38% cap tax bracket is again a gov illusion that they dish to the public.


In addition, I am an immigrant that came to this country "legally". Have produced jobs, income and health insurance for hundreds of people. And yet, our candidates can't take enough of our hard earned income

We are done. Give me a candidate that wants to take less of our profits.

And yes, working hard entitles you to PROFITS.

Our children really are stuck in a society that makes it better to survive on less because then you have entitlements that don't exist for producers of this country. Because if you have any profits to speak of them you become the enemy.... Because it perceived that you are not sharing enough of it......

HALLELUJA

 

[Gabors]

I am so over this nonsense if income equality!!!!!

I want a candidate that will put this country back to work and in a position to provide for themselves.

Like Queenie, I am tired of paying waaayyyy too much in taxes. If your paying too much then your earning too much.... Wrong. Do what we have done for 30 years to provide for our family and employ hundreds of people.... Then tell me you are entitled to what we have done while you have not.

Our current president has created a chasm of divide in this country. It is very sad!

He is about to become the 1% he always refers to, and trust me. He will be using all those tax loopholes to protect his own assets.

I am no where near the 1% but I am a small business owner that legislation ties the hands of and taxes unreasonably. And it's well over 55%. This nonsense of a 38% cap tax bracket is a gov illusion that they dish to the public.


In addition, I am an immigrant that came to this country "legally". Have produced jobs, income and health insurance for hundreds of people. And yet, our candidates can't take enough of our hard earned income. Just in case that wasn't enough. The feel entitled to more of it when we die.

We are done. Give me a candidate that wants to take less of our profits.

And yes, working hard entitles you to PROFITS.

Our children really are stuck in a society that makes it better to survive on less because then you have entitlements that don't exist for producers of this country. Because if you have any profits to speak of them you become the enemy.... Because it perceived that you are not sharing enough of it......

 

[Gabors]

Sorry, I tried to edit and it reposted..

 

[Kaleigh]

NO!!! He's unbalanced and is an ass hat... I fear for our country if he is elected. He pisses off
everyone, so foreign policy will be super scary. I don't love Hillary. So will wait and see what happens in the many months ahead...

 

[Niel]

He could take my taxes down to zero, no amount of money is worth xenophobia, misogyny, and Islamophobia.

 

[SMC]

I'm not even sure Trump wants the nomination. He's said and done (what I consider) increasingly ridiculous things which I'd think would decrease his popularity, and yet his popularity surges. What scares me is not that Trump is running for president, but that there are so many people that agree with stuff like:
-We should build a wall to stop immigrants from crossing the border
-Mexicans are rapists
-When Megyn Kelly is menstruating, she can't think straight
-Sarah Palin's nonsensical endorsement
-We should bar Muslims from entering the country
-Women who get abortions should be punished (which he later backtracked on)

So no, I don't support Trump for president. I don't personally know anyone who does.

This is my view - and I'll probably get called out for being a socialist and for taking a too simplistic view, but I don't mind paying more taxes in support of what I believe in. I'm lucky enough to make what I make and though I wouldn't mind having extra disposable income, I'm happy with what I have. I'd rather pay more to support women's right to choose, gay marriage, access to healthcare and birth control, stronger gun control, birthright citizenship, teaching evolution, and the acknowledgement that climate change exists (and it is a problem we should address).

To be transparent, I caucused for Hillary during my state's primary.

 

[Sphene]

I'd say four more Obama years is serious damage. Hillery could be worse than Trump. I'm not entirely sure that there's
much difference. Donald was a liberal democrat until recently. I suspect that Trump may have run as a democrat if he had known what a bad candidate Clinton would make. Too bad he chose to change parties. Too bad for Republicans, that is.

Lol if he changed side so easily the Republicans should be worried that if he gets voted in when president he may just switch to Democrat policies maybe hes the best candidate after all

Hes an entertainer maybe hes just playing games with the party and the electorate

Was is wife an immigrant? If so you got a wonder about some of his more outlandish polcies