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Do I upgrade my .79 to 1 cts?

JT123

JT123

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My 20 year anniversary is coming up and contemplating either upgrading my current center .79 cut diamond or getting eternity band(it’s GIA certified unfortunately we seemed to have lost the paperwork)
I recently had it appraised when I changed the band.Appraiser is GIA and AJP certified.I was told the cut is considered “Very Good” but I don’t have any other measurements. I know now I should have asked for this when my ring was redone!
My current ring center diamond 0.79 (5.96mm)round brilliant F color, VS1 clarity. Here is the diamond I’m considering

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...rat-i-color-vvs2-clarity-good-cut-sku-6526844

I’m wondering if this is a good upgrade for me? Is 64.60 too deep of a cut?
Or instead of upgrading the center diamond I could get an eternity band. Unfortunately I changed the band few years to a bow-tie style and added side diamonds (side diamonds are G color). The problem is my bow-tie band doesn’t pair well with straight eternity. I know they sell curved bands but haven’t found any I care for.
Thank you for any advice:D
 
Here are pics of my ring. 32DB34E7-020D-4A5C-8851-C734F255E91B.jpegBFACDC8D-5464-40EF-8F4A-0A4B1A32FCAF.jpeg
 
I'm getting ready to step into a meeting, but please don't pull the trigger on the JA stone yet.

We want to find you an ideal cut stone, not just "very good". That 38.5 crown and 40.4 pavilion on the JA stone does not work very well at all, especially with a 64.6 depth!

Not to mention IGI is not a trusted lab. We want to stick to GIA or AGS certified stones.

When I have more time I will search you some alternatives. Is $4,000 USD your max budget?
 
Hi thank you Sledge! I’m not ready to pull the trigger just yet. I’m just trying to get educated on the best Diamond to upgrade. It sounds like I need to upgrade the cut and budget :roll. I think $4500 is budget but need to check with the husband.
I have purchased anniversary band in the past from JA we love them but open to other vendors of course.
 
Have you considered a 5 or 7 stone as a RHR or to wear in place of your ering when you want to be a little more casual? $4k (or less) will buy a heck of a
5/7 stone. On the other hand, $4500 is a bit tight to make it to the one carat mark in a well-cut stone. Hopefully someone can find one. What is your color
tolerance? You may be down in the J/K range.

Here is my 1.4 ctw 7 stone which was a lot less than your budget. I wear it all the time. Its so easy and comfortable to wear. Plus its a lot of bling for
your budget.
side of 7 stone.jpg
 
tyty333 said:
Have you considered a 5 or 7 stone as a RHR or to wear in place of your ering when you want to be a little more casual? $4k (or less) will buy a heck of a
5/7 stone. On the other hand, $4500 is a bit tight to make it to the one carat mark in a well-cut stone. Hopefully someone can find one. What is your color
tolerance? You may be down in the J/K range.

Here is my 1.4 ctw 7 stone which was a lot less than your budget. I wear it all the time. Its so easy and comfortable to wear. Plus its a lot of bling for
your budget.
side of 7 stone.jpg
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That ring is gorgeous!! Yes, thank you that looks like a good option for me. Do you mind sharing where you bought it? I like the idea of switching out my rings perhaps I'll go with a yellow gold eternity ring.
 
JT123 said:
My 20 year anniversary is coming up and contemplating either upgrading my current center .79 cut diamond or getting eternity band(it’s GIA certified unfortunately we seemed to have lost the paperwork)
I recently had it appraised when I changed the band.Appraiser is GIA and AJP certified.I was told the cut is considered “Very Good” but I don’t have any other measurements. I know now I should have asked for this when my ring was redone!
My current ring center diamond 0.79 (5.96mm)round brilliant F color, VS1 clarity. Here is the diamond I’m considering

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...rat-i-color-vvs2-clarity-good-cut-sku-6526844

I’m wondering if this is a good upgrade for me? Is 64.60 too deep of a cut?
Or instead of upgrading the center diamond I could get an eternity band. Unfortunately I changed the band few years to a bow-tie style and added side diamonds (side diamonds are G color). The problem is my bow-tie band doesn’t pair well with straight eternity. I know they sell curved bands but haven’t found any I care for.
Thank you for any advice:D
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Do you have to stay with JA for your upgrade?
 
JT123 said:
That ring is gorgeous!! Yes, thank you that looks like a good option for me. Do you mind sharing where you bought it? I like the idea of switching out my rings perhaps I'll go with a yellow gold eternity ring.
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I got it from ID Jewelry. They are Pricescope Quality stones. The cost was about half your budget. A few more shots for perspective.
Real life perspective...
real life view.jpg
hand view
7 stone hand view.jpg
 
rockysalamander said:
Do you have to stay with JA for your upgrade?
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No not at all. My ring was purchased from a local b&m,my anniversary band was purchased from JA.I will keep my ring. I know from reading on here I’ll get little for it! (and no GIA certificate won’t help lol)
How much would I need to bump up price for a decent 1cts?
I tried on some 1cts and 1.3cts rings (VS, G and excellent cuts) just to get perspective of size. I was surprised I didn’t notice that much of a size difference compared to my .79 ring! I’m wondering now if it would even be worth it? Of course the rings could have been poorly cut (didn’t see the specs) but they were Tacori rings and guy told me the cuts were done very well,not too deep, table 54-57 range, excellent polish/symmetry etc.
 
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tyty333 said:
I got it from ID Jewelry. They are Pricescope Quality stones. The cost was about half your budget. A few more shots for perspective.
Real life perspective...
real life view.jpg
hand view
7 stone hand view.jpg
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Really beautiful!! I tried on some eternity bands in the 1.3 range and I think that size is perfect for me. My ring size is 5. That ring suites you very well with plenty of bling!
 
Yes this will be my last upgrade. I have heard great things about WF
 
Glad to see you aren't stuck with a particular vendor. However, I think the question has to be asked if you are really okay with dropping down in color. Right now your current stone is an F color. That is pretty awesome. There are some cavaets. Based on your other responses, it sounds like the stone is either uncertified or certified by a lab other than GIA/AGS.

That being said, I'd encourage you to take your current ring into a local B&M store and compare against similar sized GIA certified stones. In situations like these, we discover many times the color isn't as awesome when compared against more reliable GIA/AGS standards.

A bonus to this is you should get an idea how far exactly you are willing to sacrifice on color to get the size you want. From what I'm seeing, you are likely in a J color diamond. Maybe a H/I if you get lucky and find the right SI1 stone. But when shopping virtual inventory I prefer to stick at VS2+.

I have looked at both and didn't find any SI1 stones I felt were great, either because of inclusions (not eye clean) or proportions were off.

Here is what I did find that I think is worth consideration:

1ct J VS2 @ $4,834
https://www.adiamor.com/Diamonds/1....4.908&p=1&utm_source=rarecarat&utm_medium=cpc

https://www.fourmine.com/shop/diamo...ce=rarecarat&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=2018

56 table, 61.8 depth, 35 crown, 40.6 pavilion & 75 LGF. Measures 6.38 x 6.42.

Available at 2 online retailers -- play them against each other to get the best price for yourself and to get advanced images (ASET, idealscope, hearts & arrow, etc). Video and proportions look very amazing. That medium table and steep crown paired with a very complimentary pavilion and fat arrows will make a lovely combo that will deliver big bold flashes of fire. It should be beautiful.

Again, ask for the advanced images. Also confirm the "additional clouds not shown" note on the cert doesn't cause any issues (doesn't appear it will looking at the video). My last two concerns is just watching out for you. Is this pushing your budget too far? Are you really okay with J color?

1.09ct J VS2 @ $4,280
https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/R109-414179746?utm_source=rarecarat&utm_medium=cpc

https://www.fourmine.com/shop/diamo...ce=rarecarat&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=2018

https://www.yadavjewelry.com/diamond/round-diamond-1.09-carat-j-vs2-yd5092036

57 table, 61.6 depth, 34.5 crown, 40.8 pavilion & 75 LGF. Measures 6.58 x 6.62.

Here you have 3 retailers offering the same stone. Again, play to your advantage. Proportions are very promising. Love the 34.5/40.8 combo. Size is a little better on this one. Probably for two reasons.

First this stone has medium blue fluorescence. Fluor isn't an issue for me, but it is for some people. In a J colored stone, it may help whiten it a smidge and it helps lower the cost of the stone. You just need to ask if the stone has a milky/cloudy/hazy appearance to it. While normally not an issue, that is the risk so you have to ask IMO.

Second, this stone has a feather on the table that could potentially make it NOT eye clean. It looks gnarly in the magnified viewed. I'm curious if it's as bad 6-10" away in normal viewing conditions.

You have to download the cert from GIA to see the clarity plot, so I am uploading for convenience.

To recap -- play them against each other for the best price, ask for advanced images, ask about fluor & ask about it being eye clean because of that feather.

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1.09ct J VS1 @ $4,640
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...j-color-vs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-6492570

56 table, 62.1 depth, 34.5 crown, 40.6 pavilion & 75 LGF. Measures 6.56 x 6.59.

Very clean plot, as only pinpoints are shown. There is a note that clarity is based on internal graining not shown. Being a VS1 I don't think it's horrible, but I would want to ask and verify. I doubt it will affect it being eye clean at VS1 clarity, but I want to make sure it doesn't affect light return performance.

Also, if you consider this stone I'd want an idealscope image (JA doesn't do ASET or H&A on rounds, unless it's part of their TH collection). That 34.5/40.6 can go either way as that pavilion is a little more shallow than I would like for you. I'd prefer 40.7 or 40.8 but in fairness to GIA they round & average to the nearest 0.2 degrees, so it's possible the actual pavilions are 40.6+. Most the time it works out good. I just want to make sure and that idealscope should tell us that.

Lastly, you have strong blue fluor on this stone. Again, I'm not spooked by it but you need to confirm there are no hazy/milky/cloudy issues as a result.
 
Wow thank you so much Sledge for all the detailed information! I think I'll go with lower color because I want a rose gold band. So I can get away with a more yellow stone correct?:D
 
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