Diamond worth 2,200 USD.

[staci]

every time i do an advance search of the diamond, i always adjust the cut to ideal.

i tried searching premium cut/very good cut this time.

should i consider that also, cos it widens my range of choices

or should i just get the .75 diamond from bluenile?







---- diamonds are so complicated

 

[stone-cold11]

For define those grades? The vendor site?

There can be good stones with lower cut grade depending on who and what criteria they use to define their cut grades, especially if IS images can be supplied. You will just have to go through a larger number of stones.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 10/14/2009 7:12:46 PM
Author: staci
every time i do an advance search of the diamond, i always adjust the cut to ideal.

i tried searching premium cut/very good cut this time.

should i consider that also, cos it widens my range of choices

or should i just get the .75 diamond from bluenile?







---- diamonds are so complicated

You can do that certainly as it will bring up some more options but it is more work to weed through them, but if you don''t mind doing that then its not a problem!

 

[staci]

is fluorescence is visible with the naked eye?

Carat weight:0.75
Cut: Ideal
Color: E
Clarity: SI1
Depth %:61.5%
Table %:56%
Symmetry:Excellent
Polish:Excellent
Girdle:Thin to Medium
Culet:None
Fluorescence:Strong Blue
Measurements: 5.87 x 5.84 x 3.60 mm


this one is from bluenile also
Strong blue fluorescence, does it mean it has a blue color on the naked eye?
i only want a diamond which is brilliant and sparkling and naked eye clean.
sorry if im posting too much choices, i have til end of nov to decide
cos my friend from US will arrive here 2nd week of dec
just really dont want to make a bad choice of ring
TIA

 

[stone-cold11]

Only when in the presence of UV light source, light the sun. The effect is similar to the anti-forgery water mark you will see on dollar bills and checks.

Need the crown, pavilion angles and the lower half and star numbers.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 10/15/2009 11:11:44 AM
Author: staci
is fluorescence is visible with the naked eye?

Carat weight:0.75
Cut: Ideal
Color: E
Clarity: SI1
Depth %:61.5%
Table %:56%
Symmetry:Excellent
Polish:Excellent
Girdle:Thin to Medium
Culet:None
Fluorescence:Strong Blue
Measurements: 5.87 x 5.84 x 3.60 mm


this one is from bluenile also
Strong blue fluorescence, does it mean it has a blue color on the naked eye?
i only want a diamond which is brilliant and sparkling and naked eye clean.
sorry if im posting too much choices, i have til end of nov to decide
cos my friend from US will arrive here 2nd week of dec
just really dont want to make a bad choice of ring
TIA

Not really, you will see it more in UV light, some sunlight etc - this looks like a violety glow which is very attractive but your diamond won't look " blue" if that makes sense.

The diamond above might be fine but need more info please, the crown and pavilion angles especially and for completeness, the star and lower girdle facet percentages.

Check the diamond is eyeclean also.

 

[staci]

http://www.bluenile.com/build-your-own-diamond-ring?pid=LD01531894&forceStep=DIAMONDS_STEP#

i think its 34 and 40 for the angles. how to check the star and lower girdle facet%?

tia

 

[stone-cold11]

For this stone, the star is 55%, the lower half is 75%.

Numbers look good and safe.

 

[staci]

http://www.bluenile.com/build-your-own-diamond-ring?pid=LD01536631&forceStep=DIAMONDS_STEP


thanks how out this one.

i think im buying from blue nile even without the ASeT image because of wider range of choice and the diamonds are mostly available.
and they have 30 days return policy, if we dont find the ring eye clean we could return it and choose another one.

thanks again SC

 

[stone-cold11]

Numbers are good but not as safe as the previous stone because of the rounding of numbers by GIA.

Ya, understand. But you will have to factor in the shipping cost if after a few tries, will not look like a deal anymore. Great if you can get it the first time round.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 10/15/2009 6:58:48 PM
Author: staci
http://www.bluenile.com/build-your-own-diamond-ring?pid=LD01531894&forceStep=DIAMONDS_STEP#

i think its 34 and 40 for the angles. how to check the star and lower girdle facet%?

tia

For the angle combo above, 80% LGF can be preferable but it could be fine. Again an image would help which we can't get.


http://www.bluenile.com/build-your-own-diamond-ring?pid=LD01531894&forceStep=DIAMONDS_STEP#


Stone, would you mind fixing the links for me please, I can't read them again! Thanks!

 

[stone-cold11]

here it is.

http://www.bluenile.co.uk/round-diamond-1-carat-or-less-ideal-cut-e-colour-si1-clarity_LD01531894?__fun_frm=i&filter_id=0

Really hate BN's different site address for the same stones.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 10/16/2009 5:05:07 AM
Author: Stone-cold11
here it is.

http://www.bluenile.co.uk/round-diamond-1-carat-or-less-ideal-cut-e-colour-si1-clarity_LD01531894?__fun_frm=i&filter_id=0

Really hate BN's different site address for the same stones.

Thanks!! I do too.

Yes this one could be a contender, check the strong blue fluorescence isn't making the diamond look cloudy by asking BN to investigate, this is rare but best to check.

 

[staci]

thanks again Stone-cold and Lorelei
hope u wont get tired of helping me.
lil by lil im learning.

still kinda confused with the flourescence. is medium blue ok? which is better strong blue or medium blue?
as long as its not cloudy, oily and hazy right?
Fluorescence is a personal preference thing, not good or bad unless it is an overblue, meaning it turns the stone oily/hazy.

girdle is stated Thin to medium, faceted. is this good also? Faceted?

ideal depth is 62, table 56?

crown and pavillion should be consider. but i dont know the ideal numbers.



this is what i know *
fluorescence shouldn't be faint and must be none. color blue is rare
culet is better none
girdle should be medium or between thin-slightly thick.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 10/16/2009 7:19:17 AM
Author: staci
thanks again Stone-cold and Lorelei
hope u wont get tired of helping me.
lil by lil im learning.

still kinda confused with the flourescence. is medium blue ok? which is better strong blue or medium blue?
as long as its not cloudy, oily and hazy right? No one is better as it comes down to personal preference, medium should not cause cloudiness it is normally strong or very strong blue and that is rare.

girdle is stated Thin to medium, faceted. is this good also? Faceted? Perfect.

ideal depth is 62, table 56? Depth and table are both fine.

crown and pavillion should be consider. but i dont know the ideal numbers. The crown and pavilion angles are critical but with the diamonds you have posted we have advised accordingly and you have picked some good stones.

Crown angles of around 34 - 35 degrees and a pavilion of 40.6 - 41 degrees are a good starting point.



this is what i know *
fluorescence shouldn't be faint and must be none. color blue is rare
culet is better none
girdle should be medium or between thin-slightly thick.

Of course I won't get tired of helping you!

 

[staci]

thank you so much Lorelei

how i wish i could treat you guys to dinner for helping and beng patient with me

i guess this 2 right now is on top of my list

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-SI1-Premium-Cut-Round-Diamond-1193369.asp

http://www.bluenile.co.uk/round-diamond-1-carat-or-less-ideal-cut-e-colour-si1-clarity_LD01531894?__fun_frm=i&filter_id=0


ill try to ask JA again for the images. i forgot what seem to be the problem with my conversation with them the last time

hehehe cos actually im kinda getting confused also who am talking with the diamonds (bluenile, WF and JA ) thru online chat

 

[stone-cold11]

Fluorescence is a personal thing. I have 2 VSB, seen only one, but I like the effect of it changing color in sunlight and darklight. Fluorescence blue is the most common of the fluorescence color, other colors are more rare.

Girdle variation from thin to slightly thick is fine. Too thin will be more prone to chipping, too thick you will be loosing too much diameter for the weight. Faceted means that it is polish like the other main diamond facets, the other description will be bruted girdle, an un polish gidle, frosted looking which some likes.

Depth below 62.3% is fine, higher than that the diameter of the stone might be reduce more. The lower limit is constraint by the table, crown and pavilion.

Table generally people prefer 54-60%, some like it smaller some bigger.

use the cut adviser as a rejection tool.https://www.pricescope.com/cutadviser.asp Score below 2 is worthy of more inspection although if IS image is available, higher score can be considered.

 

[stone-cold11]

Date: 10/16/2009 7:40:16 AM
Author: staci
thank you so much Lorelei

how i wish i could treat you guys to dinner for helping and beng patient with me

i guess this 2 right now is on top of my list

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-SI1-Premium-Cut-Round-Diamond-1193369.asp

http://www.bluenile.co.uk/round-diamond-1-carat-or-less-ideal-cut-e-colour-si1-clarity_LD01531894?__fun_frm=i&filter_id=0

ill try to ask JA again for the images. i forgot what seem to be the problem with my conversation with them the last time

hehehe cos actually im kinda getting confused also who am talking with the diamonds (bluenile, WF and JA ) thru online chat

nay, no need to buy me dinner, save the $$ for the stone.

The JA stone is slightly steep in the pavilion. The lower half is not helping in this case, as you can see light leakage under the table even in the loupe image, IS image will probably be more noticeable.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 10/16/2009 7:40:16 AM
Author: staci
thank you so much Lorelei

how i wish i could treat you guys to dinner for helping and beng patient with me

i guess this 2 right now is on top of my list

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-SI1-Premium-Cut-Round-Diamond-1193369.asp

http://www.bluenile.co.uk/round-diamond-1-carat-or-less-ideal-cut-e-colour-si1-clarity_LD01531894?__fun_frm=i&filter_id=0


ill try to ask JA again for the images. i forgot what seem to be the problem with my conversation with them the last time

hehehe cos actually im kinda getting confused also who am talking with the diamonds (bluenile, WF and JA ) thru online chat

You are so sweet but its my pleasure truly!

I will check out the links for you.....

Yes the pavilion angle is a bit steep in the JA diamond out of the 2 I prefer the BN diamond.

 

[staci]

frm the bluenile diamond

i used the cut analysis online from SC.

depth 61.5
table 56
crown 34
pavillion 40.8

and rated 1 -perfect

but im not sure if am right could u double check it for me, cos the GIA is kinda blurr

i have to go over my budget to get the right diamond

 

[stone-cold11]

ya, those are the numbers.

Report check.
http://www2.gia.edu/reportcheck/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.showReportVerification&reportno=6102522308&weight=0.75

You can use this link to check for GIA reports. Just need the report number and carat weight on the report.
http://www2.gia.edu/reportcheck/index.cfm

 

[staci]

thanks again SC


http://www.exceldiamonds.com/Loose_Round_Diamond-143/Loose_Round_0.77_Carat_H_Color_SI1_Clarity_diamond-368493.html


what do u think of this diamond ?
and is do u recommend this website?

 

[stone-cold11]

They are ok and provide IS/ASET images on request. Ask for the report then we can know if it is worth looking into.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 10/16/2009 6:52:51 PM
Author: staci
thanks again SC


http://www.exceldiamonds.com/Loose_Round_Diamond-143/Loose_Round_0.77_Carat_H_Color_SI1_Clarity_diamond-368493.html


what do u think of this diamond ?
and is do u recommend this website?

Excel are a reputable vendor, ask them to upload the report and if they have the usual images available.

 

[staci]

just to make sure am i right,

color D, E, F, G is better than H?
VS is better than SI1?

or it is still based on the cut?




is there a complete list here of the diamond online seller?
bluenile
whiteflash
exceldiamond
jamesallen
niceice

where else?
ty

 

[stone-cold11]

Color is dependent on personal preference, some prefer lower, just that the general public knowledge is geared towards the colorless side due to constant advertisement by jewelers.

As long as it is eye-clean, one clarity grade is not necessary better than the other. This is also an arbitrary grade based on a magnification of 10x. If you go up higher in magnifications, even IF stones will have inclusions.

Optical performance is based on cut.

Others that provides ASET/IS image on request are GoodOldGold, HighperformanceDiamond, Union Diamond, IdJewelry.

You can find them in the list of diamond vendors above.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 10/17/2009 7:47:38 AM
Author: staci

just to make sure am i right,


color D, E, F, G is better than H? This is down to personal preference as to what is better, but colourless diamonds are rarer than near colourless etc and as such command higher prices.
VS is better than SI1? Again personal preference, eyeclean is eyeclean if both VS and SI diamonds being compared are in fact eyeclean then to one buyer VS might be better, to another SI so go with what is right for you.

or it is still based on the cut? Without a great cut a diamond won't be beautiful regardless of colour and clarity.

is there a complete list here of the diamond online seller? Yes here. https://www.pricescope.com/dealers.asp

 

[staci]

thanks SC - Others that provides ASET/IS image on request are GoodOldGold, HighperformanceDiamond, Union Diamond, IdJewelry

unluckily no diamond that i want in those dealers

except this http://www.idjewelryonline.com/diamond_details1.php?id=17678014%20%20%20%20%20%20%20&shape=B&pricefrom=0&priceto=2300&caratfrom=0.75&caratto=0.77&colorfrom=D&colorto=H&clarfrom=IF&clarto=SI1&polish=ANY&cert=GIA&symmetry=ANY&depthfrom=&depthto=&tablefrom=&tableto=&cut=Array&item_id=

round .75-.77, ideal cut, D-H, VS2-SI1. $0-$2,300. this is my advance search for my diamond

thanks also Lorelei - Yes here. http://www.pricescope.com/dealers.asp

since they dont have ASET/IS image and i started at Bluenile, i think right now my top of the list is the last diamond from bluenile i posted.

though im still trying to search for a diamond from the dealers list

and when u say eye clean, what does this really mean specifically?

ty

 

[stone-cold11]

So what is the matter with JA for the E SI1 stone?

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/E-SI1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1194336.asp?b=16&a=12&c=77&cid=131

These 2 from USACerted looks promising. I think they do IS too.

http://search.virtcert.com/cgi/u/1012/v.cgi?stock=10288632&_s=1012&_p=sdf348gd743&_c=&_fs=1&prestock=&_ln=ps

Reportcheck link
http://www2.gia.edu/reportcheck/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.showReportVerification&reportno=2101440416&weight=0.81

http://search.virtcert.com/cgi/u/1012/v.cgi?stock=10434871&_s=1012&_p=sdf348gd743&_c=&_fs=1&prestock=&_ln=ps

Reportcheck link
http://www2.gia.edu/reportcheck/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.showReportVerification&reportno=2101609564&weight=0.79

 

[stone-cold11]

Eye-clean. Read this thread and the linked article.

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/what-is-an-eye-clean-diamond.125855/