Diamond regret :( please advise me how to move forward!

[snakeysam24]

No one is looking at angles or paperwork / just the bright white rock on your finger - enjoy every moment staring at your stunner!

This is very true! Again thank you so much x

 

[Tonks]

Agree with what has been said. A 60/60 stone is not bad. Yes, it is different than a super ideal cut, but for a while, the 60/60 was the standard! There are things to love about both. If you love your stone, enjoy it. There will always be a stone that is technically better cut out there, but will it be within 1,000 miles of yours to compare? Probably not.

Bright white in all lighting and a good size—those are great characteristics in a diamond. Wear it in good health.

 

[lovedogs]

Heres my take:

Is it a super ideal cut? No.

Is it a bad cut? Also no.

It's a 60/60, which you already know. It will fsvor white light vs fire, which is personal preference. It won't show rhe typical hearts and arrows of ideal cuts, but it will be white and bright in almost all lights.

Unfortunately its pretty unlikely that the jeweler will let you have a refund/exchange at this point. You can ask, but my guess is he pr she will say no.


I doubt the jeweler was trying to sell you something crappy. Most people don't know about super ideal stones, even jewelers. Or they don't want to know, bc they'd rather mark up and make more $.

If you are truly unhappy you can try to exchange, but you will have to go smaller in size and lower in color.

Also, if you love it, who cares that there might be technically something better? Your preference and happiness are all that matters!

 

[lulu_ma]

Hi thank you, yes I believe that’s what it is that 60/60 are for brightness not fire. I guess I’m worried I’ve missed out on a ‘magical’ property by not having a fiery diamond - again I’d love peoples views on this, I do also think it exhibits some fire

Super Ideals are AGS O!

 

[freddyboston]

is this it ? it's lovely and quite lively in the BN glamour video...... very clean crystal....

https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/23184826?

 

[MMtwo]

Your diamond is nice! Like, very nice! Those angles are complementary. The diamond looks white. I see fire, so it has some

A few years ago I bought a 60/60 and then asked for input. Many folks don't love 60/60 cuts and rather like you, I was worried I chose poorly. So much so I sold it and bought another. The new one had perfect specs but I actually missed the 60/60 as it was beautiful! I should have trusted my eyes. Live and learn.

Tinier tables can be fiery yes, but under electric daylight, your 60/60 is probably brighter edge to edge. Your photos show a very beautiful diamond.

 

[marymm]

I love a beautiful 60/60, and that's what you've got. And a 60/60 "favors brightness" just means you get a bit more brightness but you will definitely still get fire -- you won't be missing any magical diamond properties I promise

Honestly, if you can reframe your story -- you actually got exactly what you prioritized, size and brightness -- and you actually got a very well cut 60/60 (which isn't easy) -- yay!

What you don't have is a return policy, and you don't actually know you would prefer any other stone over the one you chose -- without those two key elements, why not let the angst and stress go, and choose to fully accept and celebrate the actual gorgeous ring on your finger?

Best wishes, and congratulations by the way!

 

[MissGotRocks]

is this it ? it's lovely and quite lively in the BN glamour video...... very clean crystal....

https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/23184826?

Thanks for finding this @freddyboston! It really is a lovely diamond! Put those worries out of your head. Your jeweler found you a very nice diamond and you have nothing to worry about. Enjoy every sparkle!!

 

[Roselina]

Ahhh good to know! Can I see it?

Here you go! It‘s a vintage stone and it takes on all the colours surrounding it. Green under trees, blue under the sky, yellow when dressed yellow, rose when bedded into flowers.

 

[Daisys and Diamonds]

We have all been where you are. As others have said, it's a nice diamond.

I once read the best advice on this very forum and it sticks with me to do this day.

"comparison is the thief of joy"

its taken me a long while to like my prePS jewellery again
not that i have anything anywhere near PS standards
as much as i love PS and seeing all the lovely pretties you are dead right
comparison is the thief of joy
@snakeysam24 i do sympathise with you, but your diamond is gorgeous

 

[oncrutchesrightnow]

Honestly it sounds like the jeweler did a good job. You wanted 3 carats but it was out of budget so he got you a spready 60/60. It looks pretty to your eyes and people on PS are saying it is well cut for a 60/60. Congratulations!

You paid more in person than online, but that is normal, and you got some direct help from the jeweler.

Superideals are not for everyone. I do not have an ACA but I have superideals from another vendor. They are beautiful but they go dark in the sun. Also, they are always “on” — constant edge-to-edge brightness that does not vary much. Someday you could get a non-ACA superideal in lab grown and see if you personally think the difference is worth spending more &/or getting a smaller natural diamond.

Since you are asking for advice, what I would do is keep that 60/60 and as finances allow, get a lab grown superideal later (ACAs do not come in lab grown that I know of but other vendors have their own superideals and those do come in lab grown).

 

[Dreamer_D]

All told I think you should perhaps just give yourself a stern talking to about this anxious rumination, and instead spend some quality time with your amazing huge white diamond and let yourself fall in love.

 

[Patty]

I didn’t see the color listed in your post but if it’s the E that freddyboston shared, you have a beautiful diamond! It has that great spread that a 60/60 gives you and will bright white in all settings.

I have a 60/60 ( actually 59/59) that’s in a pendant now and I love how big it looks for the weight plus it is very bright for its color.

I can get buyer’s remorse over just about anything so I can feel your pain, but you have a beautiful diamond and I hope that you can come to love it for what it is…it’s a big beautiful diamond!

 

[snakeysam24]

Hi everyone,

Thank you so much for your input, I’m only just catching up as for some reasons I wasn’t getting notifications! @freddyboston yes that is the diamond posted on blue Nile thank you so much for finding it! I wonder how my uk jeweler came to acquire it as he already had it in his inventory he didn’t order it in ‍ but he is actually a wholesaler of diamonds - he is Indian and started his career there so I’m guessing lots of contacts.

It’s really made me feel better that the general view is that it’s a well cut and nice diamond..I had in my head 60/60 was bad and he had kind of seen someone with a decent budget but not much clue about diamonds coming his way. I have no reason to think this as his customer service skills have been great ever since, which is why I think he’d be open to the possibility of me exchanging if I wanted to. He does offer a life time trade in policy too which I have in writing.

I’m really glad I found this community as you have all really helped put my mind at ease

 

[lulu_ma]

Hi everyone,

Thank you so much for your input, I’m only just catching up as for some reasons I wasn’t getting notifications! @freddyboston yes that is the diamond posted on blue Nile thank you so much for finding it! I wonder how my uk jeweler came to acquire it as he already had it in his inventory he didn’t order it in ‍ but he is actually a wholesaler of diamonds - he is Indian and started his career there so I’m guessing lots of contacts.

It’s really made me feel better that the general view is that it’s a well cut and nice diamond..I had in my head 60/60 was bad and he had kind of seen someone with a decent budget but not much clue about diamonds coming his way. I have no reason to think this as his customer service skills have been great ever since, which is why I think he’d be open to the possibility of me exchanging if I wanted to. He does offer a life time trade in policy too which I have in writing.

I’m really glad I found this community as you have all really helped put my mind at ease

An E VS puts you in rarefied company! Maybe the reddit folk were jealous!

 

[snakeysam24]

Hi all,

I had a look at diamonds on blue Nile that are the same spec as mine, as I already knew they are cheaper, I’m not going to bang that drum! But why do they differ so much in price? There are currently 3 x 2.5 on there E VS2 but the prices are very different!

Also I’d love some clarification from the post from @freddyboston in terms of AGS, do the other cuts essentially ‘make up’ for the 60/60 and help with fire? And does it mean that I actually have an AGS 0? That would be awesome if so!

 

[snakeysam24]

An E VS puts you in rarefied company! Maybe the reddit folk were jealous!

I have no idea..I guess I thought posting in a diamond forum it’s kind of like you can have ‘better’ than some and others will have better than you and that’s just accepted!

 

[MissGotRocks]

I have no idea..I guess I thought posting in a diamond forum it’s kind of like you can have ‘better’ than some and others will have better than you and that’s just accepted!

People are people and jealousy or envy can be an ugly thing. It sometimes rears itself in places you least expect…..

 

[snakeysam24]

I love a beautiful 60/60, and that's what you've got. And a 60/60 "favors brightness" just means you get a bit more brightness but you will definitely still get fire -- you won't be missing any magical diamond properties I promise

Honestly, if you can reframe your story -- you actually got exactly what you prioritized, size and brightness -- and you actually got a very well cut 60/60 (which isn't easy) -- yay!

What you don't have is a return policy, and you don't actually know you would prefer any other stone over the one you chose -- without those two key elements, why not let the angst and stress go, and choose to fully accept and celebrate the actual gorgeous ring on your finger?

Best wishes, and congratulations by the way!

Thank you! Knowing that the other angels compliment the 60/60 cut has really helped! I guess I was just worried I got sold a bad diamond.

 

[snakeysam24]

People are people and jealousy or envy can be an ugly thing. It sometimes rears itself in places you least expect…..

Very true!

 

[Dreamer_D]

Blue Nile is a drop shipper and so the prices will depend on what a particular supplier is charging for a diamond and that can depend on many factors.

 

[oncrutchesrightnow]

Hi all,

I had a look at diamonds on blue Nile that are the same spec as mine, as I already knew they are cheaper, I’m not going to bang that drum! But why do they differ so much in price? There are currently 3 x 2.5 on there E VS2 but the prices are very different!

Also I’d love some clarification from the post from @freddyboston in terms of AGS, do the other cuts essentially ‘make up’ for the 60/60 and help with fire? And does it mean that I actually have an AGS 0? That would be awesome if so!

The price differences between diamonds on an online store can sometimes be explained by the cut quality

 

[snakeysam24]

The price differences between diamonds on an online store can sometimes be explained by the cut quality

So if a diamond has proportions closer to ideal then it would be higher? With that in mind should I have expected mine to be lower than others with the same spec but closer to those ideal ranges or as some other have said above is it the proportions that matter more? Hope that makes sense!

 

[MissGotRocks]

So if a diamond has proportions closer to ideal then it would be higher? With that in mind should I have expected mine to be lower than others with the same spec but closer to those ideal ranges or as some other have said above is it the proportions that matter more? Hope that makes sense!

Pricing can also depend on when a diamond was cut and came to market. Prices fluctuate according to the market, so hard to pinpoint exact reasons. Super ideal cut diamonds are cut for light performance, not weight. Therefore, more rough is expended in their cutting resulting in higher cost to produce. Most super ideal cut diamonds have been purchased by a company or supplier, are in house and their sales price is largely based on what they paid for them. Your diamond is a GIA triple excellent so that diamond would trade higher than a non triple excellent. As with all things, price depends on what one is willing to pay for it. I am going to assume that your diamond was purchased by someone (maybe yourself?) that was willing to pay the asking price for it. You are trying to determine if the price is fair and we can't tell you that answer. Don't know what was paid for yours, nor do I need to know. You can't go back and renegotiate the sale so unless it has caused a hardship, I would just put that out of your mind. Prices fluctuate based on many different reasons, so what one would cost today might not be reflective of what it cost yesterday or next week.

 

[oncrutchesrightnow]

So if a diamond has proportions closer to ideal then it would be higher? With that in mind should I have expected mine to be lower than others with the same spec but closer to those ideal ranges or as some other have said above is it the proportions that matter more? Hope that makes sense!

Or it could have cost more because it is an especially nice cut for a spready stone.

 

[snakeysam24]

Or it could have cost more because it is an especially nice cut for a spready stone.

Thanks I guess this is what I was trying to determine!

 

[snakeysam24]

Pricing can also depend on when a diamond was cut and came to market. Prices fluctuate according to the market, so hard to pinpoint exact reasons. Super ideal cut diamonds are cut for light performance, not weight. Therefore, more rough is expended in their cutting resulting in higher cost to produce. Most super ideal cut diamonds have been purchased by a company or supplier, are in house and their sales price is largely based on what they paid for them. Your diamond is a GIA triple excellent so that diamond would trade higher than a non triple excellent. As with all things, price depends on what one is willing to pay for it. I am going to assume that your diamond was purchased by someone (maybe yourself?) that was willing to pay the asking price for it. You are trying to determine if the price is fair and we can't tell you that answer. Don't know what was paid for yours, nor do I need to know. You can't go back and renegotiate the sale so unless it has caused a hardship, I would just put that out of your mind. Prices fluctuate based on many different reasons, so what one would cost today might not be reflective of what it cost yesterday or next week.

Thank you, no you are right I guess I am also trying to figure out if this is a retailer I would buy again from moving forward

 

[freddyboston]

well Blue Nile had it @ 38,4k USD but a Brick and Mortar store would obviously be higher due to overhead.... Also he was able to steer you to a good one (@ BN the buyer has to do more work).... He also listened to what you wanted Bright and Larger looking.... Maybe he could done a better job keeping you from orig setting your E stone @ Yellow Gold.....

 

[snakeysam24]

well Blue Nile had it @ 38,4k USD but a Brick and Mortar store would obviously be higher due to overhead.... Also he was able to steer you to a good one (@ BN the buyer has to do more work).... He also listened to what you wanted Bright and Larger looking.... Maybe he could done a better job keeping you from orig setting your E stone @ Yellow Gold.....

well Blue Nile had it @ 38,4k USD but a Brick and Mortar store would obviously be higher due to overhead.... Also he was able to steer you to a good one (@ BN the buyer has to do more work).... He also listened to what you wanted Bright and Larger looking.... Maybe he could done a better job keeping you from orig setting your E stone @ Yellow Gold.....

Thank you extremely helpful - and makes me feel a little better about the price. Do blue Nile usually have fair prices?

I did ask the jeweler if I could have a look at one with more ideal specs but he seemed genuinely flummoxed and I actually think I’ve offended him which wasn’t my intention.

 

[freddyboston]

Thank you extremely helpful - and makes me feel a little better about the price. Do blue Nile usually have fair prices?

I did ask the jeweler if I could have a look at one with more ideal specs but he seemed genuinely flummoxed and I actually think I’ve offended him which wasn’t my intention.

For naturals - BN is less than most B+M stores but generally slightly higher than other online vendors... (BN also sometimes has nice proprietary/exclusive stones unavailable to other vendors)

He's flummoxed because technically you're already Ideal Spec but in the Brighter and Spready Category.. I think you would be clearer for him if you said more fire.... (steeper and deeper) The problem with steeper deeper is you lose the brightness and deeper steeper have less spread + more hidden ct weight...

Yellow / Green / Orange are all great....just different flavors