Cushion Experts! Stats!

[CrookedRock]

Today I changed my whole direction and went from Radiant to Cushion. I was stunned by their beauty. I am just hoping that some of you experts can help me out here. This is a big decision!!
These are the stats of a stone that we LOVED!!!

GIA Cushion Brilliant
4.01
H VS1
11.44 x 9.19 x 4.86
52.1%
69%

I will say that I like the more rectangular stones. And can someone please explain this culet thing to me. I personally prefer when it does no appear to have the ''hole'' in the middle. Does that mean I need to look for a newer cut stone as opposed to an older one? I think Cushion Brilliant is the one I want, right?

Thanks in advance for any help!!!

 

[Lorelei]

Some love a large culet and the effect - it depends, do you have any pics of this stunning sounding diamond to post?

 

[Ellen]

I take it the table is 52.1, and depth is 69? Just checking.

Also, what is the Polish And Symmetry, Girdle?


You can also get a bigger culet in a newer cut stone, just depends on how they''re cut. I''m not versed enough to know what to specifically ask for to make sure you don''t get one, beside just saying, no culet.

And yes, we can''t tell too much else without a pic. If you can''t get one, I''d suggest, if your eyes decide you like it, that you purchase only on the condition that it checks out with an idependant apparaiser. Make sure you have a good amount of time to return.

 

[CrookedRock]

I found the report for this stone. I should clarify that this particular stone is not the one we will be buying. Becasue of where we saw it the markup was 100% more! No joking! I just wanted to see what I liked, and get feedback about what I should be looking for. Anything would be appreciated! Is BostonJeff around these days??

 

[Ellen]

Well, fancies are tougher. Numbers alone don''t tell the whole story, you really have to look at them and let your eyes be the final judge.

However, as a rule (that is not written in stone, there are exceptions), you want the table number smaller than the depth. When the table is larger, you start getting a glassy appearance. Also, the smaller the table, the greater the fire.

Ideally (but can''t always get what you want), it''s nice to have Sym and Pol at VG or above. But again, if you love the stone, doesn''t matter what those are. Girdle at Med to Slightly thick, but many times they are thick and up. That doesn''t hurt anything, it just hides some of the weight in the girdle, causing it to face up smaller.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 1/20/2008 9:01:12 AM
Author: Ellen
Well, fancies are tougher. Numbers alone don''t tell the whole story, you really have to look at them and let your eyes be the final judge.

However, as a rule (that is not written in stone, there are exceptions), you want the table number smaller than the depth. When the table is larger, you start getting a glassy appearance. Also, the smaller the table, the greater the fire.

Ideally (but can''t always get what you want), it''s nice to have Sym and Pol at VG or above. But again, if you love the stone, doesn''t matter what those are. Girdle at Med to Slightly thick, but many times they are thick and up. That doesn''t hurt anything, it just hides some of the weight in the girdle, causing it to face up smaller.

Ditto all this, also with fancy shapes it is more usual to see polish and symmetry at good, very good etc, than the ex ex or Ideal in rounds.

 

[Ellen]

Date: 1/20/2008 9:07:02 AM
Author: Lorelei

Ditto all this, also with fancy shapes it is more usual to see polish and symmetry at good, very good etc, than the ex ex or Ideal in rounds.

True!

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 1/20/2008 9:11:00 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 1/20/2008 9:07:02 AM
Author: Lorelei

Ditto all this, also with fancy shapes it is more usual to see polish and symmetry at good, very good etc, than the ex ex or Ideal in rounds.

True!

Tank you!

 

[CrookedRock]

However, as a rule (that is not written in stone, there are exceptions), you want the table number smaller than the depth. When the table is larger, you start getting a glassy appearance. Also, the smaller the table, the greater the fire.

OHHH! I did not know that! Glad I do now though!!! I think what was great about this was that it faced up like a 5ct... Gotta love that!

ETA... As I understood it, the larger the table the better the spread...

Can someone explain this culet thing to me? I keep reading and reading. I guess I do want a culet, bc I don't prefer the look of the 'hole' in the center.

 

[Ellen]

Date: 1/20/2008 9:13:02 AM
Author: Lorelei

Tank you!

No need to thank me sils.

Crooked, if you don''t want the hole visable, you want NO culet, or NONE as it''s stated on this grading report you posted. You might even be able to go to very small and small. I''m not sure about cushions. Just tell whoever is helping you that you don''t want a visable culet.

 

[boston_jeff]

Hi crooked,

Those numbers leave something to be desired, but DiaGem has trained me that there are beautiful cushions with very unconventional numbers. But I would keep looking, unless you''ve seen the stone in person compared to a deeper stone with a smaller table and loved this one.

As far as culet goes, it is my experience that culets are not visible until medium, and even then you''d have to look for it.

good luck on your search... and when you come back with stones, try to have all the numbers on the cert and at least one picture!

 

[CrookedRock]

BostonJeff... So glad you are around. Like I said, this stone was not in the running to be bought bc of where we found it. It was beautiful and it faced up huge!

I will have a list of diamonds to pick from in about 1.5 -2 weeks from now. Then I will have to pick a handful to have flown to me. So keep ckecking, bc I will probably need your expertise very soon!

PS.. the ring you did is gorgeous!!! I''m having Leon do this one too... I can only hope it is as stunning!

 

[Rhino]

Oh yes... boston jeffs ring is famous in these parts.

As far as culet goes ... the scale runs

a. none
b. very small
c. small
d. medium
e. large
f. very large

In the size of diamond you're considering you *might* be able to see it in medium but most likely wouldn't but even if you could make it out but all the other aspects of the diamond are top notch I wouldn't make that a deal breaker. You'd definitely see them in large and of course very large. That's when they start to begin to look like holes at the bottom and holes I would add, that contribute to leakage. They are classic though in old world cushions. I too am a cushion lover.

All the best,

 

[CrookedRock]

Wow! Rhino!! Thank YOU so much for chiming in here. I also have to thank you for actually being responsible for turning me on to cushions. After watching all the videos on your site we went running out to see them in person! Love at first sight! LOL!

As far as the culet goes, I know there are many that love the look of the ''hole''. Unfortunately we do not and I hope that it wouln''t be too hard to find a beauty without it. Am I correct that most Cushion Brilliant''s will have no culet, or do I have this backwards?