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Hey guys,
I just bought this diamond off of JamesAllen.com, and plan to pop the question rather soon. I''m beginning to wonder whether I should have sacrificed the cut to get a larger diamond (maybe 1.3-1.5 carat). This is the one I bought:

GIA, 1.03 carat Round, G, SI1 (eye clear), "Very Good" cut, Measurements: 6.38-6.48 x 4.04 mm. I paid $4,170 for the stone (only a teacher''s salary here!).

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/G-SI1-Premium-Cut-Round-Diamond-1264728.asp


Sorry, there is no picture. Any comments?
 
actually, if you click "Real Diamond Image" at the top right of the link I provided, you can get a magnified look at the diamond.

for an extra $1,000, is this diamond much better?

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-VS1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1265826.asp
 
Date: 11/14/2009 12:57:53 PM
Author:ripstruct8
Hey guys,
I just bought this diamond off of JamesAllen.com, and plan to pop the question rather soon. I'm beginning to wonder whether I should have sacrificed the cut to get a larger diamond (maybe 1.3-1.5 carat). This is the one I bought:

GIA, 1.03 carat Round, G, SI1 (eye clear), 'Very Good' cut, Measurements: 6.38-6.48 x 4.04 mm. I paid $4,170 for the stone (only a teacher's salary here!).

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/G-SI1-Premium-Cut-Round-Diamond-1264728.asp


Sorry, there is no picture. Any comments?
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Hi Ripstruct

The diamond looks to be a decent make but the cut quality could be improved, I can see what appears to be leakage in the loupe image and the diamond is a bit deep for my taste. I would maybe look at G or H colour if you want to find another, keep to SI clarity and try to find a diamond with a better cut, if you want to go much larger ( which might be difficult on your budget) if the cut is great you could consider I or J colour possibly.

You could ask if these diamonds are eyeclean

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-SI2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1212463.asp

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-SI2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1196853.asp
 
Date: 11/14/2009 12:59:49 PM
Author: ripstruct8
actually, if you click ''Real Diamond Image'' at the top right of the link I provided, you can get a magnified look at the diamond.

for an extra $1,000, is this diamond much better?

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-VS1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1265826.asp
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Looks like there might be leakage again in the loupe image, also the report isn''t loaded. An Idealscope image would tell us more.
 
Lorelei,
Thank you for the feedback. I was hoping you could give me your opinion on one more diamond (last one, promise!).

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-VS1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1265826.asp


It is a 1.3 carat, Ideal Cut, I, VS1 for $5,370. Thanks ahead of time!
 
Date: 11/14/2009 1:34:07 PM
Author: ripstruct8
Lorelei,
Thank you for the feedback. I was hoping you could give me your opinion on one more diamond (last one, promise!).

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-VS1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1265826.asp


It is a 1.3 carat, Ideal Cut, I, VS1 for $5,370. Thanks ahead of time!
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You are welcome and its no trouble, keep throwing them my way and I will look for you!

Yes, it looks like this one might be showing leakage in the loupe image, also the report isn't loaded. How much do you want to spend rip, do you want me to try to find some for you? If you give me your budget for the diamond, I will see what I can find from James Allen for you.
 
Date: 11/14/2009 1:34:07 PM
Author: ripstruct8
Lorelei,
Thank you for the feedback. I was hoping you could give me your opinion on one more diamond (last one, promise!).

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-VS1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1265826.asp


It is a 1.3 carat, Ideal Cut, I, VS1 for $5,370. Thanks ahead of time!
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You need to request a copy of the GIA report on this one.
 
Not that good, also slightly steep in the pavilion, some leakage is present.
 
Well, I really can't go much over $6,000.

I just bought a one carat, and then I hear her make the comment "look at that two carat" blah blah blah. (by the way, I know I can't afford a two carat)

She cares most about the size, but I know that she won't be happy if it doesn't sparkle too.

So I've been searching (on JamesAllen) for a Round premium or ideal cut, "I" or higher color, and SI1 or higher clarity, and 1.30 carats or higher. Also want it GIA certified.

I just don't know much about all the other details, which is why I keep asking questions!


I appreciate any help you can give me. Thanks again!
 
Date: 11/14/2009 1:53:13 PM
Author: ripstruct8
Well, I really can''t go much over $6,000.

I just bought a one carat, and then I hear her make the comment ''look at that two carat'' blah blah blah. (by the way, I know I can''t afford a two carat)

She cares most about the size, but I know that she won''t be happy if it doesn''t sparkle too.

So I''ve been searching (on JamesAllen) for a Round premium or ideal cut, ''I'' or higher color, and SI1 or higher clarity, and 1.30 carats or higher. Also want it GIA certified.

I just don''t know much about all the other details, which is why I keep asking questions!


I appreciate any help you can give me. Thanks again!
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Ok, well lets look at I or J colour and verified eyeclean SI clarities with excellent cut, that way we can maximize the size. I will go and look then report back.
 
 
Date: 11/14/2009 1:53:13 PM
Author: ripstruct8
Well, I really can't go much over $6,000.

I just bought a one carat, and then I hear her make the comment 'look at that two carat' blah blah blah. (by the way, I know I can't afford a two carat)

She cares most about the size, but I know that she won't be happy if it doesn't sparkle too.

So I've been searching (on JamesAllen) for a Round premium or ideal cut, 'I' or higher color, and SI1 or higher clarity, and 1.30 carats or higher. Also want it GIA certified.

I just don't know much about all the other details, which is why I keep asking questions!


I appreciate any help you can give me. Thanks again!
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If you can't go higher in budget, consider a non-round shape, with a confirmed "eye clean" SI2 stone.
Rounds are the most expensive. Princess are cheaper per carat (but "face-up" the same size as a similar priced round because princess have a lot of weight that you can't see - in the bottom of the stone). Pears, cushions and ovals are even cheaper.
I my opinion, pears offer fantastic amounts of sparkle for the money and hide inclusions quite well, but be sure to get one with excellent proportions.
 
Wow, that one looks awesome. I don''t know much about the magnified pictures, by the symmetry looks amazing.

The "J" color worries me a little bit, but maybe thats a sacrifice I will have to make in order to get a bigger diamond. Way to stay under budget too! Seriously considering returning the 1.03 carat ring for this one.
 
Date: 11/14/2009 2:05:06 PM
Author: ripstruct8
Wow, that one looks awesome. I don't know much about the magnified pictures, by the symmetry looks amazing.

The 'J' color worries me a little bit, but maybe thats a sacrifice I will have to make in order to get a bigger diamond. Way to stay under budget too! Seriously considering returning the 1.03 carat ring for this one.
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Its a trade off rip, have a look through the selections and see what you think. An I or J colour is still white, if you could view some in person that would help - if you have a Jareds closeby go and view their AGS0 Peerless in I or J colour to see what you think, you might be pleasantly surprised!
 
Best to get the 1.5c on hold fast. That is a very good price for a 1.5c.
 
Date: 11/14/2009 2:25:51 PM
Author: ripstruct8
Thank you everyone for all the help.

The two I like the best are:

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-SI1-Premium-Cut-Round-Diamond-1249485.asp

and

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-SI1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1264241.asp


I guess its going to depend on how much I want to spend. I know she'll DIE if I get her that 1.5 carat. Lorelei, you seemed to like this one. Is this good for the price?
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Yes it could be a great diamond and as SC says get it on hold ASAP, now the diamond is on the boards it is vulnerable to lurker poaching so pick up the phone and reserve it.

I also posted this one which is similar size and could be an excellent choice if eyeclean, in fact I would make this one my first choice if it is in fact eyeclean, ask James Allen to check it for you.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-SI2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1259947.asp
 
Its on hold...lol

I''ll provide you with real time updates!
 
Good luck. :)
 
yes but I really wanted the GIA certificate.

The medium-blue florescence is OK on the other one, right?
 
Date: 11/14/2009 2:56:01 PM
Author: ripstruct8
yes but I really wanted the GIA certificate.

The medium-blue florescence is OK on the other one, right?
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Just to let you know AGS is considered on the same level as GIA for colour and clarity grading and in fact their cut grading is preferred in some instances. Yes med blue fluorescence is fine and can even help a J colour diamond face up a little whiter in some cases, but not by much, really strong blue would make the most difference and even that is very subtle.

Here is the grading report tutorial which describes how the grading labs rank, as you will see AGS is right up there with GIA to even higher for cut grading,

"GIA is Ivy League, and AGS is like the MIT rocket-science program.



A polisher or manufacturer sends each diamond (student) to the place it will get the best grade (earn more $).





The good to average go to the large universities (IGI/EGL).





The better ones are sent to the Ivy League (GIA / HRD) and a few nerds go to MIT (AGS).
Drop outs end up in a ‘program’ at a chain store or Joe's Bar & Grading Lab."
 
They both look great.

I guess the SI1 clarity on the other one sold me.
 
ya, MB fluor is not a problem, not noticeable under most normal conditions. Might actually be beneficial as some think that it will negate some of the yellow tint of the diamond color.
 
Date: 11/14/2009 3:04:59 PM
Author: ripstruct8
They both look great.

I guess the SI1 clarity on the other one sold me.
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No problem, they are both great diamonds, the other one has the AGS report and the AGS0 cut grade, plus I prefer the proportions, but the other diamond is certainly no slouch, either should be beautiful!
 
lol hilarious!

OK, well I completed the exchange.

I know she''ll be ecstatic about this ring. The other, I wasn''t so sure. Thanks everyone for your help. I''m supposed to get the FedEx return shipping label in my email Monday, so it seems like it might be a couple weeks before I receive the ring. I''ll be sure to let you all know how it goes.

Thanks again, especially Lorelei and Stone-cold11!!!
 
Good luck. :)

Post the idealscope image when you get them.
 
Date: 11/14/2009 3:13:47 PM
Author: ripstruct8
lol hilarious!

OK, well I completed the exchange.

I know she''ll be ecstatic about this ring. The other, I wasn''t so sure. Thanks everyone for your help. I''m supposed to get the FedEx return shipping label in my email Monday, so it seems like it might be a couple weeks before I receive the ring. I''ll be sure to let you all know how it goes.

Thanks again, especially Lorelei and Stone-cold11!!!
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You are most welcome, I think you will need some smelling salts when you give her the ring!! Ask JA for an Idealscope image of this diamond just so we can take a look, I don''t anticipate any problems but it would be good to give it the final once over.
 
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