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Classic Tiffany Setting- WF vs BGD vs UnionDiamond

knkn

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Hi there, I am not too good at attaching links, but have you seen the D. Vatche. Quite a few pricescopers have this setting and apparently it is the best Tiffany replica on the market.

I think Diamondseeker has it and her rings are stunning :love:

Good luck with your search :wavey:
 
I did see the Vatche but thought it looked very similar to the BGD setting which was $600 less. I might have to examine it again in more detail. Diamondseeker have you compared yours to the real tiffany ring?
 
Are you sure she's comfortable with a knife-edge ring? For me, I find knife-edge to be terribly uncomfortable to wear. BGD has a half-round and a tapered half round with the Tiffany-style head, which I would prefer. I like the tapered Tiffany at BGD, the taper near the diamond makes it look larger, which is the same sort of idea as the knife-edge, but more comfortable.
 
I second the idea of checking out Brian Gavin's half round tiffany setting. I may be biased as it is what I chose for my setting, but it it gorgeous! I too was hung up on the proportions of the true tiffany setting. I also looked at WF, Excel's Superbcert, and the Vatche. However, after trying on the real deal at my local Tiffany's, I found the knife edge to be very uncomfortable - especially when paired with the matching wedding band.

The BG half round is a perfect compromise in my opinion. It's extremely comfortable, but has the beautiful, delicate, swoopy prongs that I love. They also were able to make the prongs very delicate and "claw-like." When I have been into Tiffany's since, they have mistaken it as one of their own on several occasions - even though it is a half round and not a knife edge.

However, if you do want to stick with the knife edge, I would recommend the Vatche, Excel's Superbcert, or the BGD setting. I think the proportions of the head on the WF setting aren't quite right. The prongs look a little large and the head itself appears squat to my eyes. Congrats and good luck choosing!
 
Thanks Kat, do you have any pictures of yours that I could see?

Yeh, she loves the knife edge and I asked if it was uncomfortable but she said not at all and she likes the look of it.

I have ruled out the supercert/excel version because I saw a photo of a tiffany and the SC version side by side and the SC version looked very 'squatty' and boxy.

I think BGD or the vatche is in the lead so far the only change I would make to the BGD version would be to make the prong more of a swoopy U shape instead of what looks like a V shape in the pics, then that ring would be perfect :love:
 
That's great! If she doesn't mind the feel of the knife edge I think I would definitely choose the BGD or the Vatche version. Here are some pics I just took. They're kinda crappy- diamond is dirty, platinum needs a polish, and taken with an iphone at work, but you get the general idea. :)

I was also worried about the narrowness of the "V" in the prongs. I requested to have the diamond set as low as possible - and I think it helps them look more swoopy and less pointy.

eek my stone looks so yellow! It's a BGD I color and looks much better in real life I swear!

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here is a better view of the side profile - the BG glamour pics are sooo much better than mine!

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Kat I love your ring :love: What size is your diamond?

My vote goes to the BGD half round or the Vatche for sure!
 
Thank you Stargurl78! It's a 1.255 I/Vs1 BGD signature round. I love it and I've received so many compliments. :) It's hard to go wrong with Brian Gavin!
 
KatSullivan said:
Thank you Stargurl78! It's a 1.255 I/Vs1 BGD signature round. I love it and I've received so many compliments. :) It's hard to go wrong with Brian Gavin!

My ring is actually with BGD right now - I am switching out the very tall basic 4-prong head on my ring to the 6-prong head that you have on yours and I can not wait to see the completed ring!!! :appl: Its supposed to be finished by the end of the week :bigsmile:

Sorry knkn for the threadjack... have you decided on a setting yet?
 
knkn|1344954444|3251227 said:
I did see the Vatche but thought it looked very similar to the BGD setting which was $600 less. I might have to examine it again in more detail. Diamondseeker have you compared yours to the real tiffany ring?

Yes, I have seen the real Tiffany rings several times. When I last went in there, the sales person thought my ring was Tiffany but I told them that the e-ring is a reproduction and the wedding band is a Tiffany ring. I think the real Tiffany is a little wider and more bulky than the Vatche. The knife edge does not bother me at all because fingers are never pressed together hard enough to cause a problem.

What size is the diamond?
 
Sorry knkn for the threadjack... have you decided on a setting yet?

Its a toss up between the whiteflash and BGD but i think im leaning to the BGD version. Every version of his ring no matter the diamond size looks perfect whereas some of the WF versions sometimes look like they have been set too low so look a bit squatty and also the WF version doesn't have the hole underneath the diamond like the real tiffany.

The other option is to go the custom route but i think I might just play it safe and choose the BGD version.

How exciting, make sure you post some pics for us when they arrive!
 
Agree with DS 100 percent here.

Having owned both the Excel replica, Vatche U113 and having compared both to the T&Co in person... The Vatche is the closest match for sure... It's also thinner than the authentic T&Co--which my wife likes better actually. She also finds the knife-edge to be more comfortable than the round bands.

Highly recommend the Vatche U113.
 
Laila619|1345046584|3251842 said:
KatSullivan|1344960272|3251307 said:
Here is a link to the Excel replica
http://www.exceldiamonds.com/-Engagement-Rings-5/Tiffany-Engagement-Rings-640.html

For a long time this was the replica of choice around PS :D

I love the Excel replica. I've seen the real Tiffany in person, and I think the Excel is the closest.

I used to own the WF replica, and it was waaay too low set IMO.


I think the excel replica is a bit different compared to the tiffany ring, its more of a squattier fatter version of the tiffany and the prongs are a bit fatter. The pic below is the tiffany on the right and the excel on the left.

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It is down to the BGD version or the vatche i think! Heres some pics for comparison:

BGD with more detailed pics:
http://betterthandiamond.com/discussion/ubbthreads.php/topics/582881/Brian_Gavin_Tiffany_Knife_Edge
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-brian-gavin-2-398-h-a-engagement-ring-pics.132275/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-brian-gavin-2-398-h-a-engagement-ring-pics.132275/[/URL]

Vatche (diamondseekers ring!):
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/new-1-58-g-vs1-from-gog-in-vatche-u-113-tiffany-repro.171351/page-3']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/new-1-58-g-vs1-from-gog-in-vatche-u-113-tiffany-repro.171351/page-3[/URL]


Tiffany detailed pics:
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/tiffany-co-e-ring.136630/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/tiffany-co-e-ring.136630/[/URL]
 
Between the 2 in the above photo, I'd prefer the elegance of the left version --- the Excel option. Much prefer that to the one on the right!
 
Enerchi|1345128017|3252342 said:
Between the 2 in the above photo, I'd prefer the elegance of the left version --- the Excel option. Much prefer that to the one on the right!

those appear to be labeled incorrectly. The Excel setting is the one on the right. The Excel setting has prongs that look like ski tips and is stubbier than the T&Co. setting.
 
If you want it to look as close as possible to the real Tiff, I think IMO the Vatche is too thin. The Tiff setting isn't that dainty IRL, it's actually got a fairly wide shank which I love. Also the Tiff is less "knifey" for lack of a better word, lol...more rounded. I wish someone would make a true replica, but then I guess that's what makes the Tiffany so special...no one has copied it exactly.

ETA: have you seen betterthandiamond's replica? It's supposedly not even a replica, but the exact mold/wax that Tiffany used in the '90s.
http://betterthandiamond.com/products/Tiffany-Reproduction-Ring.html It also has the hole under the prongs that the real one has.
 
Wow, that does look really close to the authenic T&Co. From the same mold is a bold claim by them...
 
sna77|1345129626|3252354 said:
Enerchi|1345128017|3252342 said:
Between the 2 in the above photo, I'd prefer the elegance of the left version --- the Excel option. Much prefer that to the one on the right!

those appear to be labeled incorrectly. The Excel setting is the one on the right. The Excel setting has prongs that look like ski tips and is stubbier than the T&Co. setting.

Thanks! My vote is #1 preference is the LEFT (now the Tiffany one?) It just has much sleeker prongs and a finer finish. Hope the OP finds one that he likes - great to have so many options to chose from
 
I was in the same boat as you, in the market for a Tiffany reproduction for my fiancee. The Vatche gets my vote, hands down, and we couldn't be happier. After many comparisons, I found the Vatche replica closest to the Tiff and I felt confident purchasing due to their lifetime warranty (free re-sizing, polishing, rhodium plating, etc.).

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ETA: Here are some threads I found helpful when I was in the hunt:

Tiffany Replica Comparison: http://www.pricescope.com/blog/tiffany-inspired-tiffany-setting-comparison

Vatche thread with lots of links: [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/how-should-i-modify-vatche-u113-knife-edge-solitaire.169805/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/how-should-i-modify-vatche-u113-knife-edge-solitaire.169805/[/URL]

Tiffany: http://www.tiffany.com/Engagement/Item.aspx?GroupSKU=GRP10001#f+0/0/0/0/0/0

Vatche U-113: http://idjewelryonline.com/product_info.php?products_id=25782&cType=ER
 
Hey sorry guys, yes the tiffany is the one on the left and the excel is the one on the right! That is why I ruled out the excel version because it looks like a shorter fatter version.

I have seen the BTD repro as well but that is also very similar to the excel version where it is has more of a squattier look. If you have a look at the link below it shows some pictures of the BTD version http://betterthandiamond.com/discussion/ubbthreads.php/topics/474378/all/new_ring_from_moco

Thanks for those pics of the vatche... That looks very very close to the real tiffany so I think i might just go with that.

So if anyone in the future is looking for a tiffany replica I would probably rank them like this

1. Vatche U113
2. BGD Classic Knife Edge
3. WF Classic Tiffany Style Knife Edge
 
knkn|1345160675|3252704 said:
Hey sorry guys, yes the tiffany is the one on the left and the excel is the one on the right! That is why I ruled out the excel version because it looks like a shorter fatter version.

I have seen the BTD repro as well but that is also very similar to the excel version where it is has more of a squattier look. If you have a look at the link below it shows some pictures of the BTD version http://betterthandiamond.com/discussion/ubbthreads.php/topics/474378/all/new_ring_from_moco

Thanks for those pics of the vatche... That looks very very close to the real tiffany so I think i might just go with that.

So if anyone in the future is looking for a tiffany replica I would probably rank them like this

1. Vatche U113
2. BGD Classic Knife Edge
3. WF Classic Tiffany Style Knife Edge

If you decide on the Vatche, I highly recommend working with Yekutiel at ID Jewelery. (www.idjewelryonline.com). He has a great relationship with Vatche and can accommodate even the nit-pickiest of requests. We requested our setting to be set slightly higher than standard, prongs off-set of arrows, and not to obscure the GIA laser inscription. Yekutiel and Vatche hit all of our requests out of the park.
 
TRIALnERROR|1345162228|3252728 said:
If you decide on the Vatche, I highly recommend working with Yekutiel at ID Jewelery. (www.idjewelryonline.com). He has a great relationship with Vatche and can accommodate even the nit-pickiest of requests. We requested our setting to be set slightly higher than standard, prongs off-set of arrows, and not to obscure the GIA laser inscription. Yekutiel and Vatche hit all of our requests out of the park.

Thanks for the recommendation ill check them out. By the way, what does prongs off-set of arrows mean?
 
knkn|1345168550|3252788 said:
TRIALnERROR|1345162228|3252728 said:
If you decide on the Vatche, I highly recommend working with Yekutiel at ID Jewelery. (www.idjewelryonline.com). He has a great relationship with Vatche and can accommodate even the nit-pickiest of requests. We requested our setting to be set slightly higher than standard, prongs off-set of arrows, and not to obscure the GIA laser inscription. Yekutiel and Vatche hit all of our requests out of the park.

Thanks for the recommendation ill check them out. By the way, what does prongs off-set of arrows mean?

Means you set the diamond in a certain way so that the prongs don't cover up the arrow heads. Rather, the prongs would be in between the arrows.
 
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