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Date: 4/3/2008 1:38:01 PM
Author: Ellen
Well, I just got back from taking my mom to her neurologist. She had an MRI, EEG, and bloodwork for Thyroid and vitamin deficiencies a couple months ago, to help determine what might be causing her deteriorating memory. All came back fine, which I knew several weeks ago. What he then had to say, I pretty much suspected, I don''t think my mom did . Of course, he had to say this was not a definitive diagnosis, because there isn''t one, but in light of all her test results, his guess is that she is in the very early stages of Alzheimers.
He explained that she was still in a very good place mentally (I think he''s giving her a tad more credit, but then he doesn''t deal with her to truly know), and that if she started a medication to halt the loss, she could very well keep it in check for a few years. He said 85% of people who try the meds have success, with at least one good year, many have more, and noted one had seven. So while I didn''t ask, my guess is 2-4 years might be an average. Nothing works forever. There are some GI side affects, hope that''s not an issue. But if it is, we can try another script that comes in a patch, bypassing the GI tract.
So, I am just praying the med agrees with her, and works. We shall see.
Regarding medicine dispensers, as I just posted we''ve been using those snap top boxes for years with my mother without too many problems. However, more recently she gets confused with the day of the week or time of day, so these snap top boxes weren''t working for us any more.Date: 4/3/2008 5:50:57 PM
Author: justjulia
Are you using a ''pill box'' yet? You know, the kind that has M, T, W, Th, F on snap top connected boxes? That was a lifesaver for us. That way, mom knew if she''d taken it yet. (found at any drugstore) I think dh''s mother uses the kind that comes already packaged by the pharmacy with peel/punch foil tops.
ETA: I took a sharpee and wrote my own times meds were due, etc on the box tops for my mother. Every Wednesday I would restock the whole thing for the next week.
Ellen,Date: 4/3/2008 8:41:40 PM
Author: Ellen
turtle, thank you, and thank you for your helpful post. I will definitely remember that Med-Dispenser. Nifty!
I am sorry to hear about your mother as well, I've never heard of that form of dementia. And I'm thrilled to hear the Aricept actually helped her, as we were told it would not help my mother per se, but it would (if it works) stop the progression of her memory loss. I'm sorry about the other med your mom was on, I hate wondering about things like that, but nothing you can do. Just be grateful she's off it now, and seems to be doing well. That's good news!
Thanks again, and please don't hesitate to post, for whatever reason, that's why we're here.![]()
Date: 4/6/2008 11:59:12 AM
Author: Ellen
Thanks julia.
I knew going into this, that not only were the side affects a potential problem, my mother and how she would react in general was as well. She has always been hypersensitive to most drugs, so not being able to tolerate them for whatever reason was a real possibilty.
And you raise a great point with the increased dosage. We''ll have to see what the doc says.
Date: 4/6/2008 12:18:19 PM
Author: Ellen
I''ve been reading some too, and yes, a lot are listed, but only a handful as most common. And I''ve seen this with many other drugs as well. They have to list every single thing, even though many might not occur very often at all.
I may start a new thread, but I''ll wait til I speak with her doc.
Hmmm. And ugh is right.Date: 4/6/2008 12:25:46 PM
Author: justjulia
What I was reading were personal accounts. It seems the most prevalent is leg cramps and diarrhea. Especially diarrhea. Ugh.
Date: 4/6/2008 12:45:12 PM
Author: Ellen
Hmmm. And ugh is right.Date: 4/6/2008 12:25:46 PM
Author: justjulia
What I was reading were personal accounts. It seems the most prevalent is leg cramps and diarrhea. Especially diarrhea. Ugh.
I don''t know, I''ve sat here thinking about all of this, the side affects vs. not taking the meds. It really comes down to the lesser of two evils in a way, at least to me. But I''m certainly not going to tell her which to choose, that''s her decison, should they continue.
Well, your wait is over. And so is the medication. I called her to find out how everything was going and she has already stopped taking it. She said she wasn''t willing to give up what little life she had left (vision wise) for the possible benefit of the med. Apparently it was really affecting her vision. And I can''t argue with that, and her decision, I''m just sad it didn''t work.Date: 4/7/2008 9:26:41 AM
Author: justjulia
Alright Missy, I''m waiting to hear what the neurologist says today. Aricept has been around a while and surely they have seen this scenario before and can do something tried and true about it. (However, that is how I felt about morphine, and well..) What I went through was it seemed that pretty much whenever we got one problem solved, another was waiting. Like keeping weight up, swallowing big pills, sores (the lung cancer med had great side effects like boils and diarrhea--as a matter of fact, I was told that when the side effects subsided that I would know that the med had lost its effect), insomnia, swollen ankles, etc.
Basically, we had good days and not so good days.
I hope you hear some comforting news today.
Ellen,Date: 4/7/2008 10:19:20 AM
Author: Ellen
Well, your wait is over. And so is the medication. I called her to find out how everything was going and she has already stopped taking it. She said she wasn''t willing to give up what little life she had left (vision wise) for the possible benefit of the med. Apparently it was really affecting her vision. And I can''t argue with that, and her decision, I''m just sad it didn''t work.
I then called and spoke with her doc''s nurse. She said the side affects would not go away, if anything they would get worse.
My mom, being the health nut she is, and with her intense aversion to meds, is alreay searching for an ''alternative'' treatment. I personally doubt there is anything out there to help, but it''s her life and her decision....
She has an appt. in 6 months with her doc, and she said at that time, if she hadn''t found anything to help, she might reconsider the meds. And there is a different one she can take, which I will remind her about now, but I seriously doubt she would try taking it at this time.
*sigh*
Thanks for your thoughts julia.
Date: 4/7/2008 11:03:46 AM
Author: Heidi137
My 80 year old MIL has been taking Aricept for years and seems to have few side effects. I do think it has caused a decrease in appetite but that might be caused by the dementia itself. She does have a constant runny nose (which she attributes to allergies) which might be related to the Aricept. My MIL has macular holes in both eyes (and is blind in one eye due to her husband not getting her to a doctor in time for surgery for a detached retina) and has pretty significant cataracts. The retina specialist wants to wait until the cataract is really bad due to the possibility of her losing sight in her only eye if something goes awry with the surgery. I am really amazed at how well she does physically considering the fact that she takes about ten different prescriptions and has had bypass surgery and carotid artery surgery in the past. Her dementia seems to have stabiized but it''s still pretty bad. My husband is an only child and since his father passed away, he has sole responsibility for his mom. She''s a full-time job. She has never been an easy person to deal with and has always been unhappy, so you can imagine what she''s like now. Her mother lived for ten years in a nursing home with dementia...
Yeah, and look where it got her, legally blind and Alzheimer's....So much for all that heathy stuff.Date: 4/7/2008 1:42:05 PM
Author: justjulia
Ellen,
Wow, a lot has happened today. Okay, good point, that it is her life after all. Hey, and it might be therapeutic for her to do some of her own research (bless her heart, all that preventative care with vitamins and such). I remember seeing on tv a discussion involving a woman who was refusing to take anything to help her bones, saying she did so much physical exercise which was supposed to take care of it. They were telling her that everyone becomes susceptible no matter what they do and that taking the supplement would make it less of a fracture when she fell, considering the mountains she was climbing anyway.
What if the nurse or doctor calls her personally to discuss the Namenda (hope I said that correctly)? Remember, we as 'only child daughters' cannot have the last word, or did you forget?![]()
You are doing all you can.
Times like these call for a big glass of chocolate milk and a Glamour magazine. Whatever it takes to chill, for you!
Darn.
Date: 4/7/2008 4:27:27 PM
Author: Ellen
Yeah, and look where it got her, legally blind and Alzheimer''s....So much for all that heathy stuff.Date: 4/7/2008 1:42:05 PM
Author: justjulia
Ellen,
Wow, a lot has happened today. Okay, good point, that it is her life after all. Hey, and it might be therapeutic for her to do some of her own research (bless her heart, all that preventative care with vitamins and such). I remember seeing on tv a discussion involving a woman who was refusing to take anything to help her bones, saying she did so much physical exercise which was supposed to take care of it. They were telling her that everyone becomes susceptible no matter what they do and that taking the supplement would make it less of a fracture when she fell, considering the mountains she was climbing anyway.
What if the nurse or doctor calls her personally to discuss the Namenda (hope I said that correctly)? Remember, we as ''only child daughters'' cannot have the last word, or did you forget?![]()
You are doing all you can.
Times like these call for a big glass of chocolate milk and a Glamour magazine. Whatever it takes to chill, for you!
Darn.
I appreciate the suggestion of having the doc talk to her, but I know my mother all too well. She won''t entertain that thought til she''s searched the ends of the earth for an alternative. And of course I have not forgotten I will never have the last word, or pretty much any word for that matter.![]()
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And I did one better than the chocie milk and mag. We drove up the river yesterday to a bar that has a huge deck built out over the water. We sat in the sun, drank a few cold ones, listened to some really good music, and watched the boats go by. It worked, and will work again.![]()
Date: 4/8/2008 12:59:33 PM
Author: Heidi137
Julia,
My MIL isn''t in the nursing home yet but it won''t be long. She will really pitch a fit when that day comes but it is becoming increasingly difficult to handle her at home. She stays with us part of the time but she has a home right down the street from us. My husband moved her here after her husband died and since she has no other relatives in our area, (or friends) she clings to my husband like glue. We check on her about four times a day and she goes to a senior citizen center every morning. She has ALWAYS been extremely self-centered. I feel really guilty about my tolerance level with her but it''s just so hard. She has never been a good mom or grandmother, much less a MIL. Her sister (who is a newly retired nurse ) kept her for us to go out of town recently and when we returned, her husband called my husband and asked him not to ever bring her back. He said his wife just couldn''t deal with her. And we deal with her 24/7.
I agree w/Ellen. Hugs to you Heidi.Date: 4/8/2008 4:37:57 PM
Author: Ellen
Heidi, I echo what julia said. And I was just researching things this morning, and came across a great piece of advice. Don't feel guilty for placing someone in a home. No one person can do it all in caring for someone with this disease.
And that's the truth.
Date: 4/9/2008 7:05:06 AM
Author: Skippy123
ETA: has anyone been through hip surgery with their parents? I hope someone has some insight into how to help their parents through this. The doctor sort of told me the process but if someone does not mind sharing I would greatly appreciate it.![]()