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No one wins the oppression olympics.
This x1000
No one wins the oppression olympics.
Thank you for your clarifications. Your country has obviously policies that are extremely unfair and will drive younger people away. I can understand your bitterness better now that I understand the situation.
Maybe some of us in this thread aren’t being bitter? Maybe we’re trying to explain to boomers that the world they grew up in doesn’t exist anymore so things like saving for home ownership don’t apply (at least in many parts of the world). Maybe we’re trying to say that we’re not entitled or selfish for spending money on travel, hobbies, eating out etc. It’s just the new norm. When most don’t have the ability to save for these large purchases priorities shift.
Personally my issue is someone saying I SHOULD do something because they did it 40 years ago and then talking over me when I try to explain how it’s not going to work. That’s not being bitter.
Although I was not the person who introduced the word "bitter" I did respond with it because, for me at least, it's quite accurate. Boomers and the economy happen to be a very sore point for me right now because for the last couple of years I have been searching for a house and planning out our budget to the last cent. I'm in my 30s, I want a house, I want children, but I'm stuck in this rut because of the way boomers have built this country.
Although I do not wish an entire generation dead (!) I can see how this kind of bitterness would evolve into the whole "boomer remover" thing.
No, it does not. Hypocritical means practicing hypocrisy, which is the practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness. The false profession of desirable or publicly approved qualities, beliefs, or feelings, especially a pretense of having virtues, moral principles, or religious beliefs that one does not really possess. It has NOTHING to do with double standards.Hypocritical means applying a double standard. Aka calling out posts from youngest gens for "taking it personal" while being fine with insults such as "entitled brats" and whatnot.
Right here: "So yeah, it's s bit hypocritical for you to single out my post within this context."Moreover, remarking on behavior isn't dictating how someone writes. Or unless that's not allowed in this thread? When did I everyone "dictate" how/who can respond to me lol?
Lol seriously, that's what you call silencing? Oh no, how oppressive I'm being by asserting my opinion.No, it does not. Hypocritical means practicing hypocrisy, which is the practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness. The false profession of desirable or publicly approved qualities, beliefs, or feelings, especially a pretense of having virtues, moral principles, or religious beliefs that one does not really possess. It has NOTHING to do with double standards.
Double standard: A set of principles that are applied differently and often unfairly between two individuals, items, or groups, especially when applied to the standards of behavior considered acceptable and unacceptable for one group of people as compared to another. An ethical or moral code that applies more strictly to one group than to another.
Right here: "So yeah, it's s bit hypocritical for you to single out my post within this context."
To respond to the OP's original question on when did people become so insensitive as to wish a portion of the demographic population just basically die here is my thought. If you wish a person dead or a generation of people dead then that reveals your heart to me. I love and respect people with kind hearts. I avoid people with hate in their hearts.
Lol seriously, that's what you call silencing? Oh no, how oppressive I'm being by asserting my opinion.
FYI from wiki: "Hypocrisy often takes the form of the "double standard," the act of judging similar acts differently depending on who is responsible for them or judging people by different criteria because of who they are." So yes, the two are correlated as double standards usually indicate the presence of hypocrisy.
I never used the word silencing, or any derivative. It doesn't do anyone any good to be making things up. I was simply pointing to your incorrect and confusing use of language. Wiki is NOT a dictionary. Any fool can add their opinion on any subject on the Wiki. I guess you had to reach really low to substantiate your usage of language. Try being more precise.
Of course you fail to see it because you are apparently unaware of how your words are landing. You did say something to the contrary, you complained about your comment: "it's s[sic] bit hypocritical for you to single out my post within this context." People CAN pick out your comment if they wish. If you don't like it.....In you [sic] words:
"You don't get to dictate what people write, or to whom they direct their comments. If you feel someone is offending you, you're welcome to report it to admin."
I fail to see how I dictate others respond. People are free to respond however; I haven't said anything to the contrary.
Moreover, most people would also know hypocrisy and double standards are related. Hypocrites are so in part due to applying one standard for themselves, and another for others.
Of course you fail to see it because you are apparently unaware of how your words are landing. You did say something to the contrary, you complained about your comment: "it's s[sic] bit hypocritical for you to single out my post within this context." People CAN pick out your comment if they wish. If you don't like it.....
And I disagree that most people with a rudimentary grasp of English would confuse hypocrisy with double standard. The definitions speak for themselves.
Someone did respond to you in particular and you complained that they singled you out. I really don't know how to explain this any better....I literally don't even understand your point here. Anyone can respond to my comments- I'm also allowed to comment on others response. Do you agree on that?
You're entitled to your opinion. I agree that you may be viewing it as a double standard and if so, then those are the words you should have used. But hypocrisy and double standards are NOT the same thing.Moreover, I noted a correlation between the two, stating that they're related-- not that they're the same.
Someone did respond to you in particular and you complained that they singled you out. I really don't know how to explain this any better.
You're entitled to your opinion. I agree that you may be viewing it as a double standard and if so, then those are the words you should have used. But hypocrisy and double standards are NOT the same thing.
I also find it interesting that every time I drive by a restaurant with patio seating or a golf course, who are those places teeming with? You guessed it!
I am a millennial and I’ve been doing grocery delivery and no takeout since March.
When I was young sitting on patios having beers was you guessed it! the Greatest Generation.. people are retired, I'm trying to understand your point? what is it?
Do you think I speak for Boomers? I don't, I speak from my experience as a woman born in the 1950s (early 50s).. Try driving in FL, many retired people there btw and restaurants all have patios.
It would be helpful if you can explain what you think boomers who are retired should doing, I worked and I enjoy retirement.
When I was young sitting on patios having beers was you guessed it! the Greatest Generation.. people are retired, I'm trying to understand your point? what is it?
Do you think I speak for Boomers? I don't, I speak from my experience as a woman born in the 1950s (early 50s).. Try driving in FL, many retired people there btw and restaurants all have patios.
It would be helpful if you can explain what you think boomers who are retired should doing, I worked and I enjoy retirement.
By age im a genX but by generation im a young boomer.
So do they want me dead or not?
I have seen people of ALL ages not wearing masks and hanging around on streets. So it’s ALL generations...Please don’t be offended by my light teasing. I have combed this thread and I can’t find any evidence whatsoever that “boomers should die” is a prevalent theme outside of some young smart-@sses. All of us, when we were young, felt invincible and poked fun at the people we viewed to be curmudgeons. We all came up with probably offensive nicknames for our teachers, and we all at some point thought at LEAST a few times that older people were full of it. What I do think is funny, is that the “older and vulnerable” population (outside of people in nursing homes who have no control over their exposure to covid sadly) are the ones I now see flouting the safety rules, because in their view it infringes on their personal freedoms and having a good time. Which is ironic. We are all young at heart and we all have more in common than not.
I have seen people of ALL ages not wearing masks and hanging around on streets. So it’s ALL generations...
This comment makes me so sad.
For many years I worked in a position where I determined an individual's capacity to consent or refuse admission to a nursing home and facilitated the applications to the homes. I never once saw anyone "shoving " their parent into a home with any malice. I saw these grown children sobbing while they looked.for reassurance that they had done everything possible to care for their parent. I saw children trying to care for parents who were so confused they were wandering away from their home naked, creating stove fires, becoming so agitated they were physically aggressive to their caregivers. I saw children quitting jobs and becoming financially overextended while trying to keep mom or dad at home.
The families I had concerns about usually resisted nursing homes (frequently so they had full access to the money) while not providing the care to keep their parent safe.
There should be no shame in placing a parent in an appropriate care environment.