Boomer Remover

[LLJsmom]

There is a really good quote from Socrates which I think is relevant here:

‘The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.’

The complaints are different, but the sentiment over the next generation is the same... and has been for a very long time!

As someone young (but not 18 with perfect 18 year old skin so I have to wear eye cream ) I assure you this whole ‘boomer removal’ thing is not indicative of the mindset of ALL young people.

Ageism isn’t as talked about in the media as much as racism and sexism. I guess it isn’t glamorous enough a headline to sell a paper (or garner a click).

There are difficulties in every generation. The fact that the difficulties are different, and that everyone is different, with different upbringings and experiences just means it’s not possible to argue over who had it better or worse. It’s all subjective. Minus the statistics which show unemployment, etc...

Outside of that, it’s the most futile and pointless argument. I personally think there are a lot of aspects of my generation that I find soft. It’s almost impossible to not offend someone now with the reach of social media. On the flip side, I do also think the older generation had more opportunities to advance in their career. Wealth creation was easier then whereas real income now is relatively weak.

But it’s all give and take, at the end of the day, we’re all humans.

Very true. Each generation has its challenges. I am raising Gen Z and I can certainly see where they have it so much better than I did growing up, but they face challenges that I never had or ever will need to. I think it behooves all generations to understand, meaning having knowledge of and understand the historical back ground of other generations to better empathize with each co-existing generation. Then we can respect each other, even if we don't agree. Wishing a whole generation gone is not an option. And so as not to offend anyone posting here, I will go on the assumption that no one posting here wants a whole generation gone. I am referring to the article that originally spurred this discussion, and to the people (again not on this board) that feel like Boomer Removal is a political and social solution, because I do believe they are out there.

 

[SallyB]

We had it made compared to our parents who went thru the depression and the world wars. Or our grandparents who were first generation Americans from poor countries. But trust me, you had it better than us and your kids will have it better than you. I understand your pain because I’ve really been there.

Unfortunately there are many in every generation who don’t have it made because of broken homes, child abuse, poverty. If a person grew up with loving parents and a stable home life, no matter the generation, in my book they “had it made”.

 

[SparklieBug]

I think it's very common for the older generation to gripe about the younger one(s)...

When I was a young child, a friend of my parents was old enough to be my grandfather. He told us that his parents and elders thought that his generation was going straight to the devil because of... the three-step waltz! LOL! His parents were convinced that touching while dancing to that "modern music" was literally a ticket to Hades.

He told this story because my father thought that teens were unruly—and Mr. H. was simply assuring my father that each generation thought the next one was going down the tubes. That said, I don't recall younger generations publicly and overtly wishing previous generations were dead. Perhaps social media is a contributing factor for the equivalent of Kodak courage?

 

[the_mother_thing]

If I had a nickel for how many times I’ve read that "we" must ‘cut some slack’ and be more tolerant & understanding of people who are less fortunate, from low income areas, lack access to quality education, technology, jobs, etc. when they make poor choices, cannot or do not do things how others might, etc. ...

Yet, when it comes to judging the actions of an entire generation from yesterday, a very basic & obvious fact appears to elude those same people who now criticize & judge those older folks: that they also lived/survived, worked, and made choices during very different time periods & circumstances ... many from ‘depressed’ areas and eras, with extremely little access to information, ‘technology’ & resources and definitely fewer ’rights’ ... than we have & enjoy today. They didn’t have internet, 24-hour national & global news cycles, dime-a-dozen research studies on iPads, nor did they have any more "choice" in when they were born, where, their skin color, how rich or poor their family was ... than we do today. They also didn't have a crystal ball to know the impact their generation’s actions would have 40, 60, 80 years later; and neither do "we".

Some of this judgment on our older generations reads like the worst kind of ignorance, intolerance and ‘Monday-morning quarterbacking’. Tolerance & understanding is not a one-way street, and none of us would be alive/here if not for them.

 

[AprilBaby]

Unfortunately there are many in every generation who don’t have it made because of broken homes, child abuse, poverty. If a person grew up with loving parents and a stable home life, no matter the generation, in my book they “had it made”.

Thats true but I did not have a stable home growing up. I had an absent father and a dead mother. I still had it made compared to the previous generations.

 

[yssie]

Every parent needs to prepare emotionally for the day their child shoves them in a nursing home against their will.

Edit - This is no joke. I’ve seen it happen time and time again to even the best parents. In my own family too. And during this pandemic.

" ... shoves them in a nursing home against their will"
Really?

If I don't want to end up in a nursing home I should save up enough money over my 50 working years to pay for the end-of-life living arrangement that I prefer.

Having kids ain't cheap so perhaps that means, instead of having kids, investing that money, or having only 1 kid instead of 3, or doing a zillion other things to live well below my means over my entire life.

I think taking responsibility for myself (instead of blaming my child, or anyone) is the right thing to do.

This is a fly in the ointment of progress that rather fascinates me. In many other cultures - dare I say most? - this would be unfathomable. In those cultures there’s no economic net to speak of, so family is critical... In those cultures elders will never worry about having to leave their homes and their loved ones in old age. They live with their children. And their children know that they will do the same.

My parents grew up in India. This was their life model. They had only me - not by choice. They moved to America to give me a better life than they had... When they aren’t able to take care of themselves they will live with me. That was the expectation that they brought me into the world with. That’s an expectation they couldn’t have known that the richest country in the world, the country where dreams can come true, would do away with.

I wouldn’t have this expectation of my own kids though. There’s definitely something worthy in the “respect your elders” mantra that our progressive and questioning culture has dissolved - a fly in the ointment.

 

[House Cat]

https://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/stress/2018/stress-gen-z.pdf

Here is a small idea of what Gen Z is going through. I think until you can claim that you have lived through a school lockdown or lockdown drill at the age of 8 years old, it might be time to extend some empathy.

Edit: and before you say that you have done bomb drills or anything of the sort, it isn’t the same as fearing for your life while some monster murders your friends.

One of the things I’m most grateful for during this pandemic is the fact that I don’t have to drop my kid off to school and wonder if he will be slaughtered. He doesn’t have to wonder that same thing.

Boomers are very much to blame for some of the things Gen Z is going through. I believe they should take responsibility for these acts and the impact they are having on the generation they love to criticize.

 

[LLJsmom]

This is a fly in the ointment of progress that rather fascinates me. In many other cultures - dare I say most? - this would be unfathomable. In those cultures there’s no economic net to speak of, so family is critical... In those cultures elders will never worry about having to leave their homes and their loved ones in old age. They live with their children. And their children know that they will do the same.

My parents grew up in India. This was their life model. They had only me - not by choice. They moved to America to give me a better life than they had... When they aren’t able to take care of themselves they will live with me. That was the expectation that they brought me into the world with. That’s an expectation they couldn’t have known that the richest country in the world, the country where dreams can come true, would do away with.

I wouldn’t have this expectation of my own kids though. There’s definitely something worthy in the “respect your elders” mantra that our progressive and questioning culture has dissolved - a fly in the ointment.

Pass me an oar @yssie .

 

[Tekate]

We DID worry everyday about Russians melting us to death (hey we'd all seen HIroshima pix) if I didn't worry about that I worried about a lot of things in my life, I do not see Gen Z or Millenials as having any worse than I had it. Period. As I said, every generation blames the one before them.

Hell when I was a girl who wore hip huggers and 1/2 top was a harlot, a whore. Because boomers recognized the hypocrites their parents and schools and religious leaders were we changed things. I don't think you can say anyone generation's pain in school was worse than another.

One of the most amazing things I think about in my generation is many people don't want to progress. They cannot process it's not 1965.

EVERY time my millenial son drove on I35 back to his college I experienced the worst anxiety, 35 is a killer road.. as parents we all worry about our children. In reality my sister's kid's experienced a school shooting in PA many years ago. It is scary, 1/2 my high school was from Newtown.. The only thing we can do is not project our worry on our kids. Gun laws, another good thing So far so good on the atomic bombs in the USA, but I still remember my plans when the planes came, where I'd go, if the Russians came where I would hide, I had plans. It was very traumatic.

Every time your teen to young adult driver get's in a car it is enough to throw you over the edge.. There's never a time to stop worrying I suppose , my 32 yr old son has a cold and dry cough, could it be Covid-19? if it is, will he get a serious case? Having kids isn't for the faint of heart for sure.

When the Greatest generation apologies to the boomers then I will apologize to the millenials and Z.

https://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/stress/2018/stress-gen-z.pdf

Here is a small idea of what Gen Z is going through. I think until you can claim that you have lived through a school lockdown or lockdown drill at the age of 8 years old, it might be time to extend some empathy.

Edit: and before you say that you have done bomb drills or anything of the sort, it isn’t the same as fearing for your life while some monster murders your friends.

One of the things I’m most grateful for during this pandemic is the fact that I don’t have to drop my kid off to school and wonder if he will be slaughtered. He doesn’t have to wonder that same thing.

Boomers are very much to blame for some of the things Gen Z is going through. I believe they should take responsibility for these acts and the impact they are having on the generation they love to criticize.

 

[Tekate]

@House Cat this is a good read

Fear of nuclear annihilation scarred children growing up in the Cold War, studies later showed

“What do you want to be if you grow up?”

timeline.com

Research on the effects of the nuclear threat on children is chilling. At the end of the 1950s, 60 percent of American children reported having nightmares about nuclear war. Few other comprehensive surveys were conducted at this time, though studies multiplied in the early 1980s. In the 1960s, 44 percent of children in one survey predicted a serious nuclear incident. By 1979, 70 percent of interviewees the same age felt sure of an attack. Researchers noted that the latter survey respondents seemed more resigned than their 1960s counterparts. A 1984 survey of 1,100 Toronto schoolchildren found that many reported feeling helpless and powerless in the face of nuclear war. For them, the issue was rarely discussed in the home.

 

[ItsMainelyYou]

@House Cat this is a good read

Fear of nuclear annihilation scarred children growing up in the Cold War, studies later showed

“What do you want to be if you grow up?”

timeline.com

Research on the effects of the nuclear threat on children is chilling. At the end of the 1950s, 60 percent of American children reported having nightmares about nuclear war. Few other comprehensive surveys were conducted at this time, though studies multiplied in the early 1980s. In the 1960s, 44 percent of children in one survey predicted a serious nuclear incident. By 1979, 70 percent of interviewees the same age felt sure of an attack. Researchers noted that the latter survey respondents seemed more resigned than their 1960s counterparts. A 1984 survey of 1,100 Toronto schoolchildren found that many reported feeling helpless and powerless in the face of nuclear war. For them, the issue was rarely discussed in the home.

This was certainly damaging. Ramp that up by 100, and you have today's children.

*The difference is now they are actually being gunned down at their schools and there was a mass shooting every day in the US last year. Their fear is real and immediate. It's not that it might happen. It more a matter of when. But they're told it's not the time to discuss gun control.
Now, compound that with threat level colors for terrorist attacks that started when I was a kid. Which also actually happened on our soil. They continue to on a smaller scale to this day. The perpetual wars that our parents and then ourselves went off to and still fight. 24/7 news cycles. Not pictures from far away. Here.

 

[SallyB]

I’m a Gen-Xer. In addition to a TON of personal trauma that I experienced at home that I won’t mention, outside the home we had the 44-Caliber Killer/Son of Sam who killed some people a few blocks from where I lived in NY In the 70’s. And my mother fit the victim profile in appearance and worked driving a cab at night (guns pulled on her frequently). We also had the usual bomb drills in grade school. Plus the usual bullying that wasn’t seen as a big deal to anyone (!).

In high school in the 80’s I witnessed a classmate get struck and killed by a train while walking home from school. Not a single adult even asked how I was doing, nevermind counseling for that sort of thing in the 80’s. Same thing when a classmate and her little brother were murdered two blocks away - no public memorials, no counselors swarming the school.

Then a neo-nazi classmate told me she and her friends were going to blow up the auditorium on graduation day. I reported it to the principal and he shrugged it off. I went to graduation and as he was handing me my diploma he said, “See, I told you nothing would happen”.

Yes, there are some unique stresses and threats to today’s kids. But at least (most of) the parents and schools recognize this and take appropriate action when needed.

 

[Tekate]

I don't think so I really don't. It's just that there were no psychologists testing us because we discussed it as kids, it was there every day.

Here's another big flash from my past.

New York's 'fallout shelter' signs remain relics of history

Many buildings in New York still have those yellow fallout shelter placards visible. But these are actually historical relics and not indicative of any actual shelter or supplies on site.

www.fox5ny.com

This was certainly damaging. Ramp that up by 100, and you have today's children.

*The difference is now they are actually being gunned down at their schools and there was a mass shooting every day in the US last year. Their fear is real and immediate. It's not that it might happen. It more a matter of when. But they're told it's not the time to discuss gun control.
Now, compound that with threat level colors for terrorist attacks that started when I was a kid. Which also actually happened on our soil. They continue to on a smaller scale to this day. The perpetual wars that our parents and then ourselves went off to and still fight. 24/7 news cycles. Not pictures from far away. Here.

 

[the_mother_thing]

Sharing the different generational experiences helps foster understanding from all perspectives. Probably less helpful though to invalidate others’ experiences. It’s not a competition for ‘who has/had the most struggle/stress/traumatic exposure ever‘ ... like there’s an Octavia give-away or something. Anything probably feels less valid if "you" didn’t experience it & vice versa.

This is one of the few areas where I believe every generation - past, present & future - deserves a participation trophy, especially considering none of us is getting out alive.

 

[ItsMainelyYou]

I don't think so I really don't. It's just that there were no psychologists testing us because we discussed it as kids, it was there every day.

Here's another big flash from my past.

New York's 'fallout shelter' signs remain relics of history

Many buildings in New York still have those yellow fallout shelter placards visible. But these are actually historical relics and not indicative of any actual shelter or supplies on site.

www.fox5ny.com

I appreciate your view. I don't say this to invalidate your reality, please don't misunderstand. I'm sure this was terrifying and left many psychological scars. I just want to highlight their reality as well.

These kids have seen literal blood splashed in their hallways, in their classrooms, on their faces and hands, and held the bodies of their friends. They watch 50 people gunned down at a concert, they watched the news of 49 die and 53 wounded at a nightclub multiplied exponentially in event after event. People they know. In their neighborhood.
Their daily existence is having to wear bullet proof backpacks and go through series of metal detectors with armed guards depending on location. Everyday. They learn to barricade doors and staunch gunshot wounds in class. They learn to run. They are taught how to hide. They learn to file out of school with their hands in the air so they aren't shot by SWAT teams accidentally. It is has the feel of intermittent warzone.
Their reality is one of immediacy. There has never been a time like this.

 

[ItsMainelyYou]

Sharing the different generational experiences helps foster understanding from all perspectives. Probably less helpful though to invalidate others’ experiences. It’s not a competition for ‘who has/had the most struggle/stress/traumatic exposure ever‘ ... like there’s an Octavia give-away or something. Anything probably feels less valid if "you" didn’t experience it & vice versa.

This is one of the few areas where I believe every generation - past, present & future - deserves a participation trophy, especially considering none of us is getting out alive.

I don't think anyone is invalidating anyone else's experience. I certainly don't. I actually think it's important to hear generational views. I value it.

 

[OreoRosies86]

I don't think anyone is invalidating anyone else's experience. I certainly don't. I actually think it's important to hear generational views. I value it.

The “active shooter” drills are pretty depressing and scary. I’m (almost) glad that covid gives me the opportunity to homeschool next year.

 

[ItsMainelyYou]

The “active shooter” drills are pretty depressing and scary. I’m (almost) glad that covid gives me the opportunity to homeschool next year.

It's terrible that a worldwide pandemic is what is keeping mass shootings down this year.

 

[SallyB]

The information in the link below applies to ALL generations and might be helpful to some readers of this thread. It also might be triggering or uncomfortable to read, but it’s based on hard research:

https://acestoohigh.com/got-your-ace-score/

 

[OreoRosies86]

It's terrible that a worldwide pandemic is what is keeping mass shootings down this year.

Trading one horrific event for another

 

[ItsMainelyYou]

Yes, historically there is compounding confluences that has no equal in our fair country. As we can all attest we have already born so much in each generation. My heart breaks for the children we were, and the children we are, now.

 

[Tekate]

I'm over 60. Stop talking about coronavirus 'culling' me | CNN

Ed Adler writes that while parts of the world start to open up, the isolation of older folks and those with pre-existing conditions must be ongoing. In the meantime, you can hear the echoes of those who care little about our vulnerability.

www.cnn.com

I'm over 60. Stop talking about coronavirus 'culling' me

 

[qubitasaurus]

This is a fly in the ointment of progress that rather fascinates me. In many other cultures - dare I say most? - this would be unfathomable. In those cultures there’s no economic net to speak of, so family is critical... In those cultures elders will never worry about having to leave their homes and their loved ones in old age. They live with their children. And their children know that they will do the same.

My parents grew up in India. This was their life model. They had only me - not by choice. They moved to America to give me a better life than they had... When they aren’t able to take care of themselves they will live with me. That was the expectation that they brought me into the world with. That’s an expectation they couldn’t have known that the richest country in the world, the country where dreams can come true, would do away with.

I wouldn’t have this expectation of my own kids though. There’s definitely something worthy in the “respect your elders” mantra that our progressive and questioning culture has dissolved - a fly in the ointment.

Yes but I have seen this happen first hand (in many places where it is the cultural norm) and seen my own family try to do it too in a place where it wasnt the cultural norm.

The countries i have lived in for the last decade have this as a default arrangement. All these countries have maids, and actually it's pretty common culturally to have intergenerational families all living under the same roof. It works well here -- often the grandparents semi move in when the grandchildren are born to look after the grandchildren. The parents work long hours (I think this is actually a byproduct of having maids; everyone can work longer so they're expected to), the grandparents raise the grandchildren. I get to see my child before she sleeps, but I know many who dont see their child awake at all during the week. Once the Grandparents become too frail a maid is hired to sit with them. My husband's grandparents are like this. They needed to be carried everywhere (stroke made my husband's grandfather unable to walk, and my husband's grandmother had Parkinsons which immobilized her) and could not be left alone but they are at home. It cost dearly (a decade of living in different countries for my husband's parents) but it was manageable as they could hire a maid.

My family tried to care for my grandmother when she became unwell. Unfortunately my country doesnt have a culture of carrying for their old at home. Help could not be found (it was simply too expensive at ~200 k a year (there was salary, insurance for the live in nurse and taxes to consider)). My parents generation were all still working so they couldn't be there during the day. My grandfather tried for about a year to keep her with him at home, but she had had an aneurysm and it had made her stiff (at the start paralyzed). So she repeatedly fell down eventually breaking her hips (from an incidental fall while trying to stand up off the couch, all while people were less than 2 m away from her but still powerless to stop it). In my country I think there are some laws such that the dr can recommend you into care if you suffer these kind of injuries. When she left the hospital she was put directly into a home. My family were actually pretty powerless to stop it.

 

[chemgirl]

Ok. Gonna confess that it’s not the first time I hear this term “Boomer remover” in regard to Covid. And I heard it from high schools seniors who are very active in political activism. Then I heard my millennial friends roll their eyes and tell my 62 year old colleague “ok boomer” when he made a comment about his home being paid off. So. I’m not incredulous In what you have heard. Generational difference? Most definitely. Bitterness on their part bc some older people seemingly had more advantages? Maybe. I’m not going to justify what they say in the same manner that I don’t justify people who stereotype millennials.

Millennial here and it’s not bitterness. Some boomers are insufferable (some). It goes beyond the paid off house comment. It’s this sanctimonious talking down to. The world doesn’t work the same way that it did 40-50 years ago so boomer advice largely doesn’t apply. It doesn’t stop a lot of them from giving it though and acting like we’re all entitled morons.

For example I’m tired of hearing about how I should stop going to restaurants and travelling until my house is paid off. Average house prices in my area have gone from 100k to currently over 700k for anything with 2 bedrooms or more. Incomes have not increased in a way to make home ownership feasible for most of us. Why focus all of our energy on something that is beyond reach? At this rate the younger generation will be living with their parents until they’re 40+

Talking about paying off your own home is one thing, but projecting that expectation onto others is something else. This is only one example, but it’s annoying to be held to a standard that is flat out wrong for the current day. When I think “Ok Boomer” I’m referring to someone who is resistant to change, someone who refuses to look at the world outside of their personal (and dated) experience.

I still obviously don’t want anyone to die!

 

[alittlelight]

Regional, ethnic, educational, and economic differences mean a person could have very little in common with someone else born in the same year.

Regional differences still apply — home ownership is still doable in the Midwest, for example.

 

[chemgirl]

Regional, ethnic, educational, and economic differences mean a person could have very little in common with someone else born in the same year.

Regional differences still apply — home ownership is still doable in the Midwest, for example.

It’s less about having something in common and more about telling someone else they should do things a certain way. It’s refusing to listen to an explanation and just citing age equals wisdom or authority when it doesn’t in a specific context.

 

[Tekate]

Millennial here and it’s not bitterness. Some boomers are insufferable (some). It goes beyond the paid off house comment. It’s this sanctimonious talking down to. The world doesn’t work the same way that it did 40-50 years ago so boomer advice largely doesn’t apply. It doesn’t stop a lot of them from giving it though and acting like we’re all entitled morons.

For example I’m tired of hearing about how I should stop going to restaurants and travelling until my house is paid off. Average house prices in my area have gone from 100k to currently over 700k for anything with 2 bedrooms or more. Incomes have not increased in a way to make home ownership feasible for most of us. Why focus all of our energy on something that is beyond reach? At this rate the younger generation will be living with their parents until they’re 40+

Talking about paying off your own home is one thing, but projecting that expectation onto others is something else. This is only one example, but it’s annoying to be held to a standard that is flat out wrong for the current day. When I think “Ok Boomer” I’m referring to someone who is resistant to change, someone who refuses to look at the world outside of their personal (and dated) experience.

I still obviously don’t want anyone to die!

Of course you don't want your aged family members and people like me to die. I get it.

I thought my parents, your grandparents were insufferable, oh God, telling me how to raise my kids, my mother bought tons of old school tapes for my kids to watch (looney toons ha!) while visiting Nanny, my mom thought kids in front of the boob tube was a miracle, a baby sitter! nothing wrong with it.. boy that was tough...

You SHOULD stop eating out and traveling too much when you have a mortgage, pay it off, we paid 100.00$ per month extra on our mortgage in NC and Austin from 90 to 2010 (we moved, moved up houses etc but those were the years we had a mortgage).. so we were able to pay off our mortgage just in time to when our kids were starting college.. it was a life saver, but a big vacate was a trip to Grandma's and eating out was - well - never. Choices. Home prices in your area could not have increased from 100K to 700K without some people being able to buy those homes. It's true that salaries are stagnant.

My first home's mortgage in today's dollars was $117,972.70. 2 bedroom 1.5 bathroom house on a road with a LOT of traffic. We sold it in 7 years for $236,000 when we bought the house in '78 I was 25 and made 6K a year, my ex made 14K a year so that was 20K (we were both college graduates) in today's dollars $84,618.48. Mortgage payment was, 367.00$ per month which is $1553.00 month in today's dollars, then we got divorced, (one of the best days of my life!).. in 1977 the inflation rate was 6.5% per year avg s 1.4%, in '79 the inflation rate was 12%, our incomes were not going up at that rate, I remember gas prices doubling in a few weeks in 74, I mean it was horrible.. the ONLY reason why I was able to move up was because my husband was STEM guy it was the beginning of programming and salaries moved due to competition, my husband's degree form 74 is Math and minor in Comp Sci because there was no major in it at the Univ of Illinois.. So save.

I don't understand WHY millenials think it was easy peasy for boomers, it wasn't. Most people in those days had 1 car, yup ONE car.. My dumbbutt ex husband wanted a Honda prelude so we had to pay DAP (dealer added proft!) of 1K in 1980 because it was very good on gas and the dealers just ripped one off, I hated it, he wanted the car because we commuted 18 mile to work..

 

[Bonfire]

I’m a Boomer, and so of course my Son and Daughter are Millennials. Life for most people is a struggle and a series of decisions within one’s circumstances, i.e. family dynamics, education, financial constraints, regional and national economic factors, wars, terrorist attacks, etc.
I agree with the younger generations that have to listen to their parents lecture about how hard they had it and be dismissive of their struggles.
There will alawys be a generational divide, it’s been that way forever. Arguing about who has/had it harder is a waste of breath and only divides us further. We need to listen to one another and validate one another‘s experiences without competitive one-upmanship.
The events in the world now are extremely challenging to everyone especially for Millennials.

 

[DAF]

Today is the first time I've heard the term "Boomer Remover". I would suspect that people who would say such a thing meant everyone but their own grandparents/seniors. Little did they know back then that CoVID-19 was pretty non-discriminatory and that stay at home actually protected everyone.

While this younger generation says they're not racist, the term "Boomer Remover" is discriminatory and ageism at it's finest. I'm surprised not more was said to this effect.

I think Gussie hit the nail on the head with saying it's their parents fault for raising entitled brats. However, I was surprised that Lilith took that a little too personal (IMO), after all, Gussie did state that it wasn't their fault they turned out that way. There are many in that generation who made it through that recession and were able to secure good jobs. Perhaps drive and determination, as well as selection of college major, played a role in their success and other's struggles.

 

[AprilBaby]

My last comment, remember this conversation when you get older and your kids think you have become us. It will happen.