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Ask an older person and more than 50% of the time I get yelled at. I’m always polite about it and smile, meanwhile these people are walking across the entire trail to the point that I would have to walk in the mud regardless of social distancing. This was happening several times per walk so we don’t go anymore.

This is amazing to me because I have had the exact opposite of this happening to me, boomers smile and move, young people literally pretend they don't see you and refuse to move, I don't ask them anymore, And mother's with strollers! oh lord, they will run you over rather than move to allow me and my husband and my old dog by, it's insane, I live in a subdivision full of millenial mama's.

BUT every generation can state anecdotal evidence of why the 'younger' or 'older' is annoying, I found it with my parents generation, when I was young, Greatest Gen drove at high speeds all the time, I asked my Dad, "what up Daddy, why is your generation so angry?" he said to me: "There are idiots in every generation" True dat.

I see fat guys on Harley's with no helmuts - now some are boomers but many are in the 40-60 age group (face it older boomers are getting too old to have their freak flag flly).. I think to myself "God I hope they don't fall over or hit somebody" it's all in what we see.

ha! on your great code for your friends business... I was a computer programmer, my husband still writes code for fun, my kids are: Java Programmer and Data Engineer, yawn all boring stuff but I've met many millenials that wouldn't know a bit from a byte and all they can is scroll on their phone, nada else, downloading an app is a Herculean task..

All your complaints are the same as I had with the Greatest, but our parents couldn't figure out a VCR, no way.. every year I would visit my Dad in FL and reprogram his VCR, he never got a cell phone, my FIL was an EE and designed machines but he could never figure out a personal computer, so I get what you say, but not all old peeps are dumb at electronics, loud and ugly and not all millenials are coders (I mean how many H1B visas are there!??) Jeez my WWI grandparents thought tv was a bit odd... of course they grew up on the radio..

Time changes, people don't.

chemgirl said:
Totally I see people of all ages. There are younger folks who seem to think they are immune and go around like nothing is happened.

There are also older folks (probably less than 1%) who are having complete meltdowns because there are new rules. These people are giving an entire generation a bad name.

Right after lockdown started we had a huge influx of retirees coming back from Florida. They were supposed to self quarantine upon arrival. The government made it extremely clear that they could not even stop for groceries. So my friend who manages a grocery store said they turned away hundreds of people per day who refused to follow the order. There were several incidents where older men and women were physically assaulting staff when they were told they couldn’t shop (but provided with contact info for groups who would shop for them). It was insane to see video of someone my mom’s age ramming a teenager with a shopping cart, but it happened.

I personally witnessed a man who looked to be in his 60’s get escorted out of the store by security last week because the policy is to sanitize your hands on entry and take a cart. He didn’t want to take a cart. He only needed one or two things (um you’re supposed to shop once per week but ok) and he didn’t want the hassle of pushing a cart. He walked to within an inch of the employee’s face and screamed at her, all over taking a freaking cart.

We don’t walk on trails anymore because people don’t leave space. Most of the time if I ask a younger person to please give me a few more feet (while I’m walking through the grass on the side of the trail) they do it. Ask an older person and more than 50% of the time I get yelled at. I’m always polite about it and smile, meanwhile these people are walking across the entire trail to the point that I would have to walk in the mud regardless of social distancing. This was happening several times per walk so we don’t go anymore.

The worst though, restaurants are opening here for patio service only. Friends own a restaurant and they were reasonably concerned for the safety of their staff. DH is a software engineer and made a system where customers order and pay on their own phones, then it’s brought out to you. They have signs explaining the process, wifi, and sanitized tablets for people who don’t have phones. A greeter comes out and explains the process to each table. The system itself works flawlessly, but again meltdowns from older customers. We spoke with them over the weekend and they said they had been yelled at more in one day than all of last year.

Clearly this behaviour isn’t normal and it’s definitely not how most older people act. It’s just very visible right now at a time when a lot of us are making sacrifices in our lives to limit the spread of a disease that disproportionately affects older people.
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That's because y'all don't get it.. you are NOT unique, you are NOT special, what is happening to you, girl happened to me when I was younger, so if the perception fits then I will wear it, but I learned, experience counts.

I could easily say SandyinA you don't help the perception of younger people being smug, and self absorbed.

All in the view dude all in the view.


SandyinAnaheim said:
I have to admit, @Bayek isn't helping the perception whatsoever.....
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WTF? complacent? jeezeus no one is lecturing 'younger people' do you understand the difference between giving an opinion and a lecture..

Voting is correct..The debt is a pain.. Voting out leaders who believe in giving the rich a continual leg up and the rest of us pay.. Ima all for that.

Let me ask you something, are millenials the ONLY generation to not have to listen to people with more experience and think about it? Cause every gen before has had to do that.

Complacent boomer and millenials aren't saying squat really. The old guy that was knocked down in Buffalo wasn't complacent, you can see boomers, millenials and whatever the younger ones are (gen Z??) not sure all out and not complacent, the status quo in America sucks.




alittlelight said:
I am sorry complacent older people have been lecturing some of the younger people on this thread. All I can say is, get angry at the right targets and when it matters. Get educated. Vote. Perhaps you already do. Get mad at corporate greed, which is the target here.

I do believe that student debt is an albatross that is hampering our entire nation, and it is appalling that this was allowed to happen by banks and universities. I think the housing markets on the coast are absolutely ridiculous, and I would be out of there in a hot minute, though of course that is not where my life and family are.

Not every “Boomer” (god, I hate that word just as much as I hate “millennial” and all that crap) is well off. Many have no retirement whatsoever. They are one health crisis away from disaster just like younger people. It’s the policies of this country. Let’s change them.
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Meh, I see it as part of the continuum of generational warfare that is probably as old as hominids have been around. No biggie, normal and a way for all to learn. No one changes but people learn. Discussion is always good between people.


Karl_K said:
this thread makes me sad :((:cry2:
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@DancingFire my old complacent boomer friend, where are you! You love debate!
 
old have grumbled about young and young have grumbled about old forever.. yes..
but it seems like everything is turned up to 11 these days.
 
Bayek said:
Ask an older person and more than 50% of the time I get yelled at. I’m always polite about it and smile, meanwhile these people are walking across the entire trail to the point that I would have to walk in the mud regardless of social distancing. This was happening several times per walk so we don’t go anymore.

This is amazing to me because I have had the exact opposite of this happening to me, boomers smile and move, young people literally pretend they don't see you and refuse to move, I don't ask them anymore, And mother's with strollers! oh lord, they will run you over rather than move to allow me and my husband and my old dog by, it's insane, I live in a subdivision full of millenial mama's.

BUT every generation can state anecdotal evidence of why the 'younger' or 'older' is annoying, I found it with my parents generation, when I was young, Greatest Gen drove at high speeds all the time, I asked my Dad, "what up Daddy, why is your generation so angry?" he said to me: "There are idiots in every generation" True dat.

I see fat guys on Harley's with no helmuts - now some are boomers but many are in the 40-60 age group (face it older boomers are getting too old to have their freak flag flly).. I think to myself "God I hope they don't fall over or hit somebody" it's all in what we see.

ha! on your great code for your friends business... I was a computer programmer, my husband still writes code for fun, my kids are: Java Programmer and Data Engineer, yawn all boring stuff but I've met many millenials that wouldn't know a bit from a byte and all they can is scroll on their phone, nada else, downloading an app is a Herculean task..

All your complaints are the same as I had with the Greatest, but our parents couldn't figure out a VCR, no way.. every year I would visit my Dad in FL and reprogram his VCR, he never got a cell phone, my FIL was an EE and designed machines but he could never figure out a personal computer, so I get what you say, but not all old peeps are dumb at electronics, loud and ugly and not all millenials are coders (I mean how many H1B visas are there!??) Jeez my WWI grandparents thought tv was a bit odd... of course they grew up on the radio..

Time changes, people don't.
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It’s awesome that your family codes for fun!

We had to laugh a bit about the customers freaking out over ordering online. It wasn’t an issue with the technology. It’s not even an app, they just have to go to the restaurant’s website and click a box that says “I’m on the patio” and type in the two digit code taped to the table. Their issue is that service is different than it was before the pandemic. Lot’s of “we might as well go to McDonald’s if we have to still order on a screen” and refusal to tip because now it’s “fast food”. Meanwhile the employees are running around sanitizing everything, bringing orders and the chef is cooking meals from scratch. It’s just a different experience and some people don’t want that. Rather than just not come back (because fair if it doesn’t meet expectations don’t waste your money) there were very vocal people taking out their frustrations on the staff. Not acceptable at any age.
 
I think a lot of us don’t feel comfortable HONESTLY discussing RACE issues. So we are channeling our anger into something safer to discuss on this board, which is AGE issues.
 
chemgirl said:
It’s awesome that your family codes for fun!

We had to laugh a bit about the customers freaking out over ordering online. It wasn’t an issue with the technology. It’s not even an app, they just have to go to the restaurant’s website and click a box that says “I’m on the patio” and type in the two digit code taped to the table. Their issue is that service is different than it was before the pandemic. Lot’s of “we might as well go to McDonald’s if we have to still order on a screen” and refusal to tip because now it’s “fast food”. Meanwhile the employees are running around sanitizing everything, bringing orders and the chef is cooking meals from scratch. It’s just a different experience and some people don’t want that. Rather than just not come back (because fair if it doesn’t meet expectations don’t waste your money) there were very vocal people taking out their frustrations on the staff. Not acceptable at any age.
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If karma were real, then these would be the parents of the people who coined “Boomer Remover.”
 
Hey, @Bayek, I didn’t mean that anyone on this thread was complacent. I was trying to acknowledge what some of the younger posters on here were saying, that it happens to them IRL. I actually have agreed with your points — I think that while the details change, young people have always had challenges and older people have always tried to pass on wisdom, and that there are struggling people in every age group. Sorry for the misunderstanding, never said you were complacent.
 
Only my hubster codes for fun.. I don't code anymore since I'm retired.. but my kids, that is their careers and they do it for a salary, one has a BS in comp sci minor math, other has BBA in CIS.

Like I said, for my parents a VCR was outer limits, PCs? lol.

My friends (boomers) all have never had a problem ordering online, instacart, foodler, etc. So I don't know what neck of the woods you live in, but here and in my whole life and career technology was a way of life.

Older people have been taking out their frustrations on staff, as I said, since homids evolved.

My mother was such a haughty bit-- in restaurants, haughty people have low self esteem imho..

Covid makes EVERYONE edgy. Hopefully the millenials can learn and do better than boomers but I doubt it since as I said, every gen b4 complains about the 'oldsters' I was the ME generation, millenials are the gen that won't grow up..times change people dont.


chemgirl said:
It’s awesome that your family codes for fun!

We had to laugh a bit about the customers freaking out over ordering online. It wasn’t an issue with the technology. It’s not even an app, they just have to go to the restaurant’s website and click a box that says “I’m on the patio” and type in the two digit code taped to the table. Their issue is that service is different than it was before the pandemic. Lot’s of “we might as well go to McDonald’s if we have to still order on a screen” and refusal to tip because now it’s “fast food”. Meanwhile the employees are running around sanitizing everything, bringing orders and the chef is cooking meals from scratch. It’s just a different experience and some people don’t want that. Rather than just not come back (because fair if it doesn’t meet expectations don’t waste your money) there were very vocal people taking out their frustrations on the staff. Not acceptable at any age.
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Thank you :) this has been a great thread for me. It has truly shown me how annoying I must have been to my mom and dad who retired to FL in 1989, dad was WWII, I spent a lot of time being annoyed with them.. but they always loved me and I see now where they were coming from..

Yes young people always have had challenges, and older people always want to assist in helping the young ones avoid the pitfalls.. Thank you for stating that eloquently.

Peace

(my problem has always been being strong willed and too righteous :) )

alittlelight said:
Hey, @Bayek, I didn’t mean that anyone on this thread was complacent. I was trying to acknowledge what some of the younger posters on here were saying, that it happens to them IRL. I actually have agreed with your points — I think that while the details change, young people have always had challenges and older people have always tried to pass on wisdom, and that there are struggling people in every age group. Sorry for the misunderstanding, never said you were complacent.
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SallyB said:
I think a lot of us don’t feel comfortable HONESTLY discussing RACE issues. So we are channeling our anger into something safer to discuss on this board, which is AGE issues.
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And I will take this a step further. A lot of us don’t feel comfortable HONESTLY discussing GENDER issues, namely that the vast majority of violence in this world isn’t inflicted by one particular RACE, but by one sex. But we really don’t want to discuss this because we love our husbands and sons and can’t do much about it anyway.

So we end up discussing which age group wastes more money dining in outdoor cafes.
 
Bayek said:
Only my hubster codes for fun.. I don't code anymore since I'm retired.. but my kids, that is their careers and they do it for a salary, one has a BS in comp sci minor math, other has BBA in CIS.

Like I said, for my parents a VCR was outer limits, PCs? lol.

My friends (boomers) all have never had a problem ordering online, instacart, foodler, etc. So I don't know what neck of the woods you live in, but here and in my whole life and career technology was a way of life.

Older people have been taking out their frustrations on staff, as I said, since homids evolved.

My mother was such a haughty bit-- in restaurants, haughty people have low self esteem imho..

Covid makes EVERYONE edgy. Hopefully the millenials can learn and do better than boomers but I doubt it since as I said, every gen b4 complains about the 'oldsters' I was the ME generation, millenials are the gen that won't grow up..times change people dont.
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See here you are ignoring what I said in the quoted post and insulting millennials again...
 
I think it's hilarious that Boomers and Millennials are so annoyed with each other, with each insisting that the other is the most selfish, most obstinate, most narcissistic generation...while I sit here as a completely ignored Gen X thinking that this is mostly pots calling kettles black (and wondering how my generation got so lost in this mix that we don't even deserve a mention half the time) #Iexisttoo!!! :lol:

Personally, I have had rude and obnoxious behaviour occur during the pandemic with both the young who feel that this doesn't and shouldn't apply to them (yes, the worst social distancers in the grocery store seem to be millennial Karens who are so busy charging around trying to get things done that it doesn't matter if they go up the aisles the wrong way or get into your face) and boomers who seem to be either confused (and randomly wandering, seemingly baffled by the new rules or fumbling with basic rules of hand sanitizing or mask use) or resentful that they are being asked to curtail their activities one bit (when honestly, we are doing all of this primarily for them!). Both can be hugely entitled. But people of my generation can be too.

What I have actually seen more of is that bad behaviour seems to run more along political lines than along age demographics, but that might be throwing a match onto a gas can to say. :evil2:
 
cmd2014 said:
I think it's hilarious that Boomers and Millennials are so annoyed with each other, with each insisting that the other is the most selfish, most obstinate, most narcissistic generation...while I sit here as a completely ignored Gen X thinking that this is mostly pots calling kettles black (and wondering how my generation got so lost in this mix that we don't even deserve a mention half the time) #Iexisttoo!!! :lol:

Personally, I have had rude and obnoxious behaviour occur during the pandemic with both the young who feel that this doesn't and shouldn't apply to them (yes, the worst social distancers in the grocery store seem to be millennial Karens who are so busy charging around trying to get things done that it doesn't matter if they go up the aisles the wrong way or get into your face) and boomers who seem to be either confused (and randomly wandering, seemingly baffled by the new rules or fumbling with basic rules of hand sanitizing or mask use) or resentful that they are being asked to curtail their activities one bit (when honestly, we are doing all of this primarily for them!). Both can be hugely entitled. But people of my generation can be too.

What I have actually seen more of is that bad behaviour seems to run more along political lines than along age demographics, but that might be throwing a match onto a gas can to say. :evil2:
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Gen-X is the Latchkey Kid generation. We are used to being ignored (and left to our own devices). :lol:
 
SallyB said:
And I will take this a step further. A lot of us don’t feel comfortable HONESTLY discussing GENDER issues, namely that the vast majority of violence in this world isn’t inflicted by one particular RACE, but by one sex. But we really don’t want to discuss this because we love our husbands and sons and can’t do much about it anyway.

So we end up discussing which age group wastes more money dining in outdoor cafes.
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i think a lot of societal issues are intertwined - discrimination or power differences by gender, race, generation, social class. you could start a new thread and see if anyone wants to have an honest discussion...i don't know how long it would last before it got so heated it was shut down but could be a worthy experiment.

what i've found is people are so rooted in their own personal experience in many cases they can't zoom out to see the bigger, systemic picture. and that's part of why we are where we are (in the US at least) on a lot of these issues imho.
 
SallyB said:
Gen-X is the Latchkey Kid generation. We are used to being ignored (and left to our own devices). :lol:
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You’ve got all of the Karens taking over the spotlight (joking).
 
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AprilBaby said:
@DancingFire my old complacent boomer friend, where are you! You love debate!
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You can never win any debate against the liberals... :wink2:
 
Whisper89 said:
By non-means tested I mean every person aged 65 and above here receives a govt pension regardless of their income or assets. So these boomers are literally being paid by us to sit around in all their investment properties that they buy to rent out or sell for capital gains, tax-free, and by doing so they price us out of home ownership. Capital gains tax has been debated here many times but the boomer politicians feel it will harm their "way of life". We almost managed to get it passed into law about a year ago, but it did not get past parliament.
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I don’t know where you live, but no younger person is paying for us to sit around in an investment property. The meagre state pension I will eventually get, has been more than paid for by the 40 years of high taxes we’ve paid.
 
Austina said:
I don’t know where you live, but no younger person is paying for us to sit around in an investment property. The meagre state pension I will eventually get, has been more than paid for by the 40 years of high taxes we’ve paid.
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Yeah, I don't think CPP and OAS pays for anyone to sit around in an investment property here either.

Millennials should also consider that they did not have to live through 15 - 30% interest on mortgages either the way the boomer generation did. And while housing prices are relatively higher, interest rates have stayed incredibly low during the vast majority of time most millennials have been buying homes. And cars, and traveling.

Plus, as a Gen X, I've been royally screwed my fair share too. I just don't complain about it. I had huge amounts of student loan debt (as did most of us because our generation's parents weren't really inclined to help out since they got great jobs with just a high school education so why couldn't we?). I lived below the poverty line for over a decade while working my way through school in crappy 1 bedroom basement apartments shared by 3 - 4 people (again, parents not super willing to help us Gen Xers out), hoping not to be axe murdered because of the parts of town these places were in. I had to wait for someone to literally die to get my first professional job (as there were none at the time that I was graduating). I was also getting into the housing market right around the time that housing prices boomed, and I bid on 30+ houses before I finally agreed to build a house on spec and wait a year for it to be ready to move into because I kept getting out bid on every pre-built house I tried to buy. I bid waaaaaaaaaay above asking even on POS houses. Plus, to be competitive, you had to make offers with no home inspection clause and no clause regarding financing just to try to get into the market. In amounts that I KNEW I would barely be able to afford the minimum monthly payments on and still eat at the same time (let alone go to a restaurant or travel in the way people are complaining about being lectured for now). It was crazy! All the while being lectured by boomer parents about why you're not in the market and why your job doesn't have a pension (because ours is the first generation to be screwed in that way too), and why you don't have great benefits or vacation time. But us latch key kids don't complain much so this is never bandied about on the internet. Not to mention the fact that we lived through the investment bubbles of the recessions in the 1990's, the dot.com bust of the early 2000's, the 2007/2008 financial crisis, and what's happening now. So none of our generations savings will ever double in value at the speed that other generations savings did. Plus, we didn't have parents willing to help out or let us live at home or even care if we got kidnapped before dinner time (and even then, who knows). So if ANYONE is being shafted, it's us Gen Xers.
 
What comes after Gen Z, Pandemonials? Pandemicals?
 
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