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LOL! Nala, do you think Caysie is the bench person who physically makes the rings? Do you think David Klass makes his rings? Um no. Caysie is a designer. She uses bench jewelers to fabricate the jewelry she designs. In this case out of courtesy to Simone, she asked Adam if his bench could finish the ring and set her stones because it would be the fastest way to get the completed ring to her!!!
Let me explain this for all of you who don’t understand how most brands work.
If I have an issue with my Benz, I don’t go to those who built it. I go to Benz dealership. I would take it to the Benz dealer who sold it to me. They would then resolve the issue! See how that works!?? Bc i wouldn’t know who dropped the ball in the process of making my car!
 
Ladies, I don’t think that this discussion is going anywhere productive. We now know what the “black stuff” are so my question has been answered. Obviously, we all have our own preferences for working or not with goven vendors. There are plenty of vendors that we like or don’t like simply based of finished work or that we have seen or experiences we have read about, even if we have not worked with said vendors. So there is nothing wrong about having opinions or preferences.

Please, let’s just remember what this forum is all about and be kind to one other. :)

Maybe ask to close it? I agree the issue will be fixed soon..
 
I don’t consider myself a die hard fan; I have had one ring made by Caysie and I like it and have had no problems. I said on the other person’s Thread that I thought Caysie should replace the snapped ring. I said in this thread that I would be sympathetic if this ring had structural issues. I also said to Simone that I heard her when she said she is done with CVB.

That Caysie was banned is of no consequence to me. Mods can make it a sticky if they want to. I don’t particularly care one way or the other. Caysie is banned for shilling. It’s not dangerous. I recommend,her: Simone does not. No worries.

What are you trying to read into my posts and why?

If there is nothing wrong with ring 2 other than polish compound that Adam has offered to fix, then it seems Caysie has fixed the problem and I think it is bizarre people started bringing up refunds for it. Simone pointed out that she was not party to that, and we can all see she is right about that.

You are coming acrossed as triggered or personally affected by this polish compound on Simone’s ring,

Transparency. One word. So you don’t get confused.
 
Yes - something must have happened for OP to go from defending CVB staunchly in ilikeshiny's thread, being a repeat customer, to requesting a refund (which was changed to a remake).

If I were CVB I'd take back the setting, offer a refund and be done with OP. It sounds like the project is tainted for both of them.

Well, no. It sounds like the project is complete.

(Unless there are other things people aren’t discussing relating to ring 2)
 
Let me explain this for all of you who don’t understand how most brands work.
If I have an issue with my Benz, I don’t go to those who built it. I go to Benz dealership. I would take it to the Benz dealer who sold it to me. They would then resolve the issue! See how that works!?? Bc i wouldn’t know who dropped the ball in the process of making my car!

Stop being condescending. And acting like everyone is "confused." We know what we are saying.

I'm glad you had to bring your "Benz" into this conversation. Speaks volumes. :lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
Ummmm??

The only thing you have clarified is that you are backpedaling big time.

Right.

Adam offered to fix the problem. Simone said she might take him up on that.

Adam was super transparent!
 
Stop being condescending. And acting like everyone is "confused." We know what we are saying.

I'm glad you had to bring your "Benz" into this conversation. Speaks volumes. :lol::lol::lol::lol:
So you can’t identify sarcasm or anecdotes:roll
 
Let me explain this for all of you who don’t understand how most brands work.
If I have an issue with my Benz, I don’t go to those who built it. I go to Benz dealership. I would take it to the Benz dealer who sold it to me. They would then resolve the issue! See how that works!?? Bc i wouldn’t know who dropped the ball in the process of making my car!

And let me explain this, Nala. This thread was complaining about black specs which we now know for sure is polishing compound. Adam came and said so because his bench finished the setting and set the stones. He offered to clean and return the ring. See, that's how it works. He took responsibility for his part. Done! Caysie remade the ring with the loose prong! Done!

Now we will wait and see if an independent appraiser says there are structural problems with the ring or not. Both vendors have done what they should have done thus far. I imagine if Adam or his bench had seen structrual problems, he wouldn't have sent the ring to Simone.
 
Ladies, I don’t think that this discussion is going anywhere productive. We now know what the “black stuff” are so my question has been answered. Obviously, we all have our own preferences for working or not with goven vendors. There are plenty of vendors that we like or don’t like simply based of finished work or that we have seen or experiences we have read about, even if we have not worked with said vendors. So there is nothing wrong about having opinions or preferences.

Please, let’s just remember what this forum is all about and be kind to one other. :)
I respect this. Again. Im sorry. I hope this thread doesn’t deter others from continuing the transparency that makes PS awesome.
 
I respect this. Again. Im sorry. I hope this thread doesn’t deter others from continuing the transparency that makes PS awesome.

I don’t think it does. I think we are all clear that Caysie designed the ring, Adam set the stones, polished it and left spots, Simone asked what the spots were, Adam said oops my bad, send it back, Simone said thank you maybe and now the post topic has ended.
 
Well, no. It sounds like the project is complete.

(Unless there are other things people aren’t discussing relating to ring 2)
If you see @Resonance.Of.Life's post above, she quoted where OP indicated there were other issues besides the black spots.
 
The thread was/is about black stuff that I simply had no idea what they were. I didn’t even bring up the jewelers name, nor the refund topic, so this thread wasn’t intended to bash anyone, but simply trying to find answers regarding an issue that I saw with my ring.

What looks really bad, @SimoneDi, is that you were acting like you were upset that the “jeweler” didn’t send a clean product, leading us to believe that it was Caysie’s bench who missed the compound spots... I understand “jeweler” could have meant OWD, but you acted like it was Caysie when you referenced your displeasure, lumping that complaint with others you’d had about CVB. Never once was OWD even mentioned... you had to know they’d be finishing the ring (setting and polishing) since you mentioned you had them do this to expedite everything.

Look, all I’m saying is this was made out to be a big issue when you acted as it’ll it were Caysie who sent you a “dirty ring”, but now that OWD said they did the setting of stones and polishing and they, (too?), missed the compound, it’s no longer such an issue with you. You’re not saying that OWD lacks the competency to send a clean ring... So which is it? You were concerned enough to start this thread and didn’t hesitate to let everyone assume it was from Caysie’s bench, but you never once let us know that OWD was in the equation. It was implied that Caysie sent you the finished piece... a “dirty ring.” ::)

I appreciate the sharing of any and all experiences with all vendors, good and bad, but it’s important that correct info (esp crucial bits) are shared. That includes correcting us when incorrect assumptions are made. This allows us to have as unbiased an opinion as possible, and makes it easier us to give good advice/suggestions that will help out. This is just... disappointing.

I hope you can resolve any other issues and wear your ring, regardless of who makes it.
 
What looks really bad, @SimoneDi, is that you were acting like you were upset that the “jeweler” didn’t send a clean product, leading us to believe that it was Caysie’s bench who missed the compound spots... I understand “jeweler” could have meant OWD, but you acted like it was Caysie when you referenced your displeasure, lumping that complaint with others you’d had about CVB. Never once was OWD even mentioned... you had to know they’d be finishing the ring (setting and polishing) since you mentioned you had them do this to expedite everything.

Look, all I’m saying is this was made out to be a big issue when you acted as it’ll it were Caysie who sent you a “dirty ring”, but now that OWD said they did the setting of stones and polishing and they, (too?), missed the compound, it’s no longer such an issue with you. You’re not saying that OWD lacks the competency to send a clean ring... So which is it? You were concerned enough to start this thread and didn’t hesitate to let everyone assume it was from Caysie’s bench, but you never once let us know that OWD was in the equation. It was implied that Caysie sent you the finished piece... a “dirty ring.” ::)

I appreciate the sharing of any and all experiences with all vendors, good and bad, but it’s important that correct info (esp crucial bits) are shared. That includes correcting us when incorrect assumptions are made. This allows us to have as unbiased an opinion as possible, and makes it easier us to give good advice/suggestions that will help out. This is just... disappointing.

I hope you can resolve any other issues and wear your ring, regardless of who makes it.
CVB is in essence responsible for anything OWD did as the subcontractor for CVb.
 
What looks really bad, @SimoneDi, is that you were acting like you were upset that the “jeweler” didn’t send a clean product, leading us to believe that it was Caysie’s bench who missed the compound spots... I understand “jeweler” could have meant OWD, but you acted like it was Caysie when you referenced your displeasure, lumping that complaint with others you’d had about CVB. Never once was OWD even mentioned... you had to know they’d be finishing the ring (setting and polishing) since you mentioned you had them do this to expedite everything.

Look, all I’m saying is this was made out to be a big issue when you acted as it’ll it were Caysie who sent you a “dirty ring”, but now that OWD said they did the setting of stones and polishing and they, (too?), missed the compound, it’s no longer such an issue with you. You’re not saying that OWD lacks the competency to send a clean ring... So which is it? You were concerned enough to start this thread and didn’t hesitate to let everyone assume it was from Caysie’s bench, but you never once let us know that OWD was in the equation. It was implied that Caysie sent you the finished piece... a “dirty ring.” ::)

I appreciate the sharing of any and all experiences with all vendors, good and bad, but it’s important that correct info (esp crucial bits) are shared. That includes correcting us when incorrect assumptions are made. This allows us to have as unbiased an opinion as possible, and makes it easier us to give good advice/suggestions that will help out. This is just... disappointing.

I hope you can resolve any other issues and wear your ring, regardless of who makes it.

This is how I read it, yes,

Regretting working with a certain designer is a possible outcome of a completed project. It is not a means for a refund. It is a means for moving on and stating why would wouldn’t work with him/her again.
 
I didn’t take that as fact, no. I read it as her speculation of what could be the issue.
Gotcha. The thread is flying so it's hard to keep up. I hope we aren't scaring off OP from elaborating, though.
 
CVB is in essence responsible for anything OWD did as the subcontractor for CVb.

I don’t think that is clear when it seems OWD is another expert who will assist. An equal, not an employee.

When my husband has another doctor assist, one is not subservient to the other. They are equals working on the same project.
 
I don’t think that is clear when it seems OWD is another expert who will assist. An equal, not an employee.

When my husband has another doctor assist, one is not subservient to the other. They are equals working on the same project.

Simone proved this when she said it was her asking to add OWD to the project.
 
I don’t think that is clear when it seems OWD is another expert who will assist. An equal, not an employee.

When my husband has another doctor assist, one is not subservient to the other. They are equals working on the same project.

All OWD’s bench did is set the stones. They don’t have ownership in this project. CvB does.
 
Good luck with your situation SimoneDi. This thread has gone sideways!
I hope everything is resolved to your satisfaction!
 
All OWD’s bench did is set the stones. They don’t have ownership in this project. CvB does.

What I’m saying is, it seems there are two very valid sides here and it wasn’t specified at th beginning so which do you go with?

Adam did take ownership of the spots. That beats everything else. Adam has spoken. It is his problem to fix.
 
What I’m saying is, it seems there are two very valid sides here and it wasn’t specified at th beginning so which do you go with?

Adam did take ownership of the spots. That beats everything else. Adam has spoken. It is his problem to fix.

@whitewave we disagree here. OWDs bench did a simple favor here. I didn’t pay OWD for the setting, the transaction is strictly through CvB which makes her the responsible party, no one else. Adam is a stand-up guy who stands behind his benches work and I appreciate that and his input on this thread.
 
Good luck with your situation SimoneDi. This thread has gone sideways!
I hope everything is resolved to your satisfaction!

Thanks @Bonfire! I will update once all is resolved.
I hope that everyone can calm down a bit here :)
 
I don’t think that is clear when it seems OWD is another expert who will assist. An equal, not an employee.

When my husband has another doctor assist, one is not subservient to the other. They are equals working on the same project.

This is how I took it... CVB’s bench isn’t associated with OWD. @SimoneDi requested that the ring be sent to OWD for setting stone(s) and polishing/finishing. This was at the request of OP, otherwise it would have been Caysie’s bench that finished the ring completely. My issue is that after MULTIPLE comments by separate posters that CVB left the polishing compound on, and that something like that was basically unacceptable, the OP made no effort to correct them or simply say something along the lines, “...hey guys, OWD was the last to polish/finish it, so maybe they’ll know what these black specks are...” That’s uncool.

Whether it was Caysie’s bench or OWD’s bench that left the polishing compound, BOTH of these benches missed it, or it would have been cleaned - easy fix, as those in the trade have mentioned. That said, BOTH benches felt the ring was acceptable to go to the OP. The only difference in this thread is that when it was assumed to have been overlooked by Caysie’s bench, ppl are outraged... when it was brought to light that OWD’s bench was the actually the last one to polish it, all is well and moving on!

Again, uncool. ::)
 
CVB is in essence responsible for anything OWD did as the subcontractor for CVb.

OWD isn’t a subcontractor for CVB though. SimoneDi requested for them to set stones and polish.
 
@whitewave we disagree here. OWDs bench did a simple favor here. I didn’t pay OWD for the setting, the transaction is strictly through CvB which makes her the responsible party, no one else. Adam is a stand-up guy who stands behind his benches work and I appreciate that and his input on this thread.

But you made them another responsible party when you requested they finish out your ring by setting and polishing... but never mentioned them? Why? The last bench to polish and send the finished piece has a lot of responsibility to the buyer as well. That’s their reputation too... but only if you disclose that info. It’s an easy fix (thankfully), and I’m glad Adam will complete the finishing for you.
 
But you made them another responsible party when you requested they finish out your ring by setting and polishing... but never mentioned them? Why? The last bench to polish and send the finished piece has a lot of responsibility to the buyer as well. That’s their reputation too... but only if you disclose that info. It’s an easy fix (thankfully), and I’m glad Adam will complete the finishing for you.
SimoneDi started this thread because she noticed black marks on her new ring. She was asking the community what it could be and for helpful suggestions. She never once mentioned the vendor. That was divulged by soxfan which didn’t need to be divulged. Then the mud slinging ensued. Step back, calm down, take a deep breath and retract the claws. There is probably more to the story than what we know. Don’t always assume you have all the facts and go into attack mode. (I’m speaking generally, not just to you msop04)
 
SimoneDi started this thread because she noticed black marks on her new ring. She was asking the community what it could be and for helpful suggestions. She never once mentioned the vendor. That was divulged by soxfan which didn’t need to be divulged. Then the mud slinging ensued. Step back, calm down, take a deep breath and retract the claws. There is probably more to the story than what we know. Don’t always assume you have all the facts and go into attack mode. (I’m speaking generally, not just to you msop04)

No claws out here, not attacking... and I’m calm (a bit sleepy, actually). She didn’t have to mention the vendor. The vendor was named on another thread as CVB, so no mystery there. I only have the facts that are presented, and it’s become obvious that some pertinent ones are being left out. Also, the thread turned from “what are these marks?” to talking about how it was unprofessional to send a ring to someone if it were “dirty.” That is, until Adam at OWD posted that it was actually his bench that did the polishing and sent the ring.

I can understand not wanting to give every single detail until everything is done to the OP’s satisfaction, but it’s also unfair to lead everyone to believe that this had to be Caysie’s bench, when OWD actually did the polishing. Posters were bashing the bench that would send out a ring with black specs like that until they found out it wasn’t Caysie’s... then it was okay. Maybe I’m wrong, but it just feels like the point of this thread was more about being negative about CVB than solving the mystery of the black specks. ::)

But, yes, I agree with you that there is definitely more to the story.
 
psst...@msop04 - are the blue pills in your avatar "chill pills" for us or will they make us "more stiff"?
 
psst...@msop04 - are the blue pills in your avatar "chill pills" for us or will they make us "more stiff"?

HA! Neither... but I’ve been known to have my sparklies “pose” with both chillies AND stiffies! ;)):lol:
 
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