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Date: 2/11/2009 10:54:45 PM
Author: Rockdiamond
Thanks Grace!
I should have been more clear in my question.
I meant to ask- are the girdles of older diamonds generally high polished?
I was thinking of maybe a ''frosted girdle'' on an old mine diamond- translucent as opposed to transparent. Like a foggy mirror when you get out of the shower.
No question, both thick and thin girdles can be gorgeous.
I''m not sure of the stone''s history past the fact it was re polished last week.
I didn''t see it before- but the diamond now has a modern girdle- I was thinking that might give the stone a bit more brilliance.
It''s cool because it seems they went over every facet- no abrasion whatsoever.
I''m sure it''s not always possible to re-polish stones like this.
The one upgradable posted does have a thick girdle.
If there''s a thin girdle I''ll bet there''s a lot more loss when you fix them....
Are minor surface abrasions are acceptable in older diamonds?
PS sorry if I ask too many questions, I love them too!
David,Date: 2/11/2009 8:44:36 PM
Author: Rockdiamond
Thank you upgradable!
I don't have all that much experience with old diamonds.
I'm looking to learn about the girdles on unrestored old mine diamonds.
I saw another old mine stone with a thin girdle, and it was really ....chewed up looking.
The stone you posted was re-polished- including the girdle.
I did learn that OEC's came into being as an imporvment over the old mine cut due to the advance in cutting thechnology that allowed the cutter to 'girdle' the diamond- so that they could be round.
Anyone famiiar with what type of girdle was common on old mine diamonds?
Date: 2/12/2009 3:06:18 PM
Author: Rockdiamond
Thank you Purrfect!
IN terms of trying to compare prices on one stone versus the next, it''s not always that simple.
For example you''d need to take into account the condition and overall look of the diamond.
YMMV, but for someone looking for old stones they would be my FIRST "go to" place, especially when they often offer a superior make at a lesser price. Perhaps the "competitors" will begin pricing more competively, no?Date: 2/12/2009 4:38:07 PM
Author: HeartingDiamonds
Date: 2/12/2009 3:06:18 PM
Author: Rockdiamond
Thank you Purrfect!
IN terms of trying to compare prices on one stone versus the next, it''s not always that simple.
For example you''d need to take into account the condition and overall look of the diamond.
Ditto. There are many factors affecting pricing - carat weight, color and clarity is just a portion of it. You will find huge price discrepancies on 2 stones that actually appear identical on paper - its all about the make.
Date: 2/12/2009 5:34:44 PM
Author: purrfectpear
YMMV, but for someone looking for old stones they would be my FIRST 'go to' place, especially when they often offer a superior make at a lesser price. Perhaps the 'competitors' will begin pricing more competively, no?Date: 2/12/2009 4:38:07 PM
Author: HeartingDiamonds
Date: 2/12/2009 3:06:18 PM
Author: Rockdiamond
Thank you Purrfect!
IN terms of trying to compare prices on one stone versus the next, it's not always that simple.
For example you'd need to take into account the condition and overall look of the diamond.
Ditto. There are many factors affecting pricing - carat weight, color and clarity is just a portion of it. You will find huge price discrepancies on 2 stones that actually appear identical on paper - its all about the make.![]()
purrfectpear's personal experience is 100% appropriate to post here.Date: 2/12/2009 11:22:49 PM
Author: ericad
It's clear you have had a terrific experience with OWD and that you recommend them highly every chance you get (Adam owes you a fruit basket). But I would urge you not to judge stones based on specs and pics alone. And to state that OWD offers a superior make is a very broad generalization. I am quite familiar with their inventory and don't feel that every stone they carry is of a superior make. There certainly are superior stones to be found among the hundreds of listings but pulling pricing comps based only on the specs they list is not an accurate way to compare vendors' inventory or pricing.
Hi David,Date: 2/11/2009 10:54:45 PM
Author: Rockdiamond
Thanks Grace!
I should have been more clear in my question.
I meant to ask- are the girdles of older diamonds generally high polished?
I was thinking of maybe a ''frosted girdle'' on an old mine diamond- translucent as opposed to transparent. Like a foggy mirror when you get out of the shower.
No question, both thick and thin girdles can be gorgeous.
I''m not sure of the stone''s history past the fact it was re polished last week.
I didn''t see it before- but the diamond now has a modern girdle- I was thinking that might give the stone a bit more brilliance.
It''s cool because it seems they went over every facet- no abrasion whatsoever.
I''m sure it''s not always possible to re-polish stones like this.
The one upgradable posted does have a thick girdle.
If there''s a thin girdle I''ll bet there''s a lot more loss when you fix them....
Are minor surface abrasions are acceptable in older diamonds?
PS sorry if I ask too many questions, I love them too!
Date: 2/13/2009 10:25:04 AM
Author: Rockdiamond
Erica and or Grace- or anyone else who is interested:
DO you feel that OMC's that are...'twisted'- I mean to say ones where the culet is far off center- visibly so- do you feel that is a negative, in terms of the make?
Personally, I prefer if the culet seems at least close to center, but what's the general view on it?
PP..., can you please elaborate more on how you categorize "comparable" in this specific example?Date: 2/12/2009 1:09:05 PM
Author: purrfectpear
I find that Adam from Old World Diamonds knows a lot about all the old cuts since that is what they specialize in. He's in your neighborhood David.
That is a very pretty diamond, but you're about $800 higher than the comparable mine cut at Old World![]()