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AlvinC

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I have this diamond on hold and I am about to ask for the ASET. What do you guys think? I've been looking around a lot and I can't find any diamond that can beat this one in the same price range. I started off with an 8k budget for loose diamond only, but I found this one that I just can't pass up. I can see some light leak on the edges of the width-direction of the diamond, but that's about it. The bow-tie is near none existance... PLEASE HELP!!! I am nervouse!!! =) Thanks in advance

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/1.40-carat-k-color-vvs2-clarity-sku-23334
 
That's a pretty stone. Very little bowtie. 6 pavilion main faceting.

Are you okay with K color though? That's risky.
 
Can you get an ASET of that one, 7.95*6.18*4.24

And since you get three, I'd add these as well:

And this one: http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/1.31-carat-i-color-vs1-clarity-sku-240887 Less carat weight, but more spread, so it looks larger than that one. 8.44*5.85*3.93

And this one: http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/1.23-carat-h-color-vvs2-clarity-sku-216323 8.34*6.05*3.48

So they are all similar sizes, in terms of spread. Regardless of their carat weight.

You shop for ovals by spread and faceting and performance.
 
Thanks Gypsy and Neil!!! Can you help me choose between these 3. I can't decide. I'm going to request ASET. (Jamesallen only let you request one set of 3 diamond ASET, is this correct?)

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/1.40-carat-k-color-vvs2-clarity-sku-23334
PRO: 6 facets and seems be cut better
CON: the depth is so deep 65% or so

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/1.36-carat-k-color-vs1-clarity-sku-41446
PRO: nice depth = big table
CON: only 4 facets

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/1.60-carat-k-color-vvs2-clarity-sku-160368
PRO: big
CON: doesn't sparkle as well and only 4 facets

Please help me decide. Thank you u guys !!!! cheers! =)
 
I like the first one that Gypsy posted, but there is just something about the one Niel posted that I keep coming back to!
 
I like the original K you posted then the 2 Gypsy stones.

Post the asets of the 3 stones you get. That will tell the real story.
 
AlvinC|1380856262|3531887 said:
Thanks Gypsy and Neil!!! Can you help me choose between these 3. I can't decide. I'm going to request ASET. (Jamesallen only let you request one set of 3 diamond ASET, is this correct?)

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/1.40-carat-k-color-vvs2-clarity-sku-23334
PRO: 6 facets and seems be cut better
CON: the depth is so deep 65% or so

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/1.36-carat-k-color-vs1-clarity-sku-41446
PRO: nice depth = big table
CON: only 4 facets

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/1.60-carat-k-color-vvs2-clarity-sku-160368
PRO: big
CON: doesn't sparkle as well and only 4 facets

Please help me decide. Thank you u guys !!!! cheers! =)
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I still like the one i posted, as i feel like it doesnt get as mushy toward the left and right of the center bowtie area (which i think the 1.4 does slightly) and Im glad you got the 1.6 as thats a nice size, and at least worth more information... I want to see what the gemologist says, as i think ovals are best picked with an eye... but ill be excited tosee what they say. I like the first two having small tables, that should equate to nice fire....

Now that your saving so much on these stone, how will you set them???
 
Thanks DJ, Tyty, and Niel again. I'm getting the ASET in a few days and I will follow up with you guys. I'm thinking about something like this. I found this example from this site also. Of course, the rock will be oval, but I was only 4 prongs on yellow gold ring. I'm still debating if i should get white gold for the prongs.

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Niel|1380908055|3532173 said:
Yes white prongs would help keep the color bight. And yellow band is a very good idea.

I would suggest doing a setting with a white basket so the white metal reflects into the stone to help the color. Also the big band hides the more tinted sides.

Similar to this.

http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/18k-yellow-gold-2.2mm-wire-basket-solitaire-engagement-ring-item-2149
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I think this would be amazing

http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/18k-yellow-gold-double-claw-prong-engagement-ring-item-5817

Though I'd ask them to make the band in the basket thicker, similar to the first setting I posted.


Also, did the recipient ask for yellow gold??

I love yellow gold, but its risky if she didn't ask for it. Rose might be a less risky choice. And JA could do that too.

Just a thought.
 
Niel|1380912306|3532249 said:
Niel|1380908055|3532173 said:
Yes white prongs would help keep the color bight. And yellow band is a very good idea.

I would suggest doing a setting with a white basket so the white metal reflects into the stone to help the color. Also the big band hides the more tinted sides.

Similar to this.

http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/18k-yellow-gold-2.2mm-wire-basket-solitaire-engagement-ring-item-2149
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I think this would be amazing

http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/18k-yellow-gold-double-claw-prong-engagement-ring-item-5817

Though I'd ask them to make the band in the basket thicker, similar to the first setting I posted. Also I'd ask them to round the shank so its a bit more soft, less boxy.


Also, did the recipient ask for yellow gold??

I love yellow gold, but its risky if she didn't ask for it. Rose might be a less risky choice. And JA could do that too.

Just a thought.
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AlvinC|1380856262|3531887 said:
Thanks Gypsy and Neil!!! Can you help me choose between these 3. I can't decide. I'm going to request ASET. (Jamesallen only let you request one set of 3 diamond ASET, is this correct?)

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/1.40-carat-k-color-vvs2-clarity-sku-23334
PRO: 6 facets and seems be cut better
CON: the depth is so deep 65% or so
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You need to adjust your understanding of ovals a bit:

65% is not over deep. And honestly some faceting plots REQUIRE it to avoid the bowtie. And I think that's the case here. 70 is deep. 65 is GOOD.

Big table is not a good thing. It's not an automatically bad thing. But a big table can mean a flat crown (not always, but many times) and can lead to less fire. In fact, most on PS, with fancies, prefer a small table.
 
I much prefer the second one. They both look to have a lot of color, so I don't know if that will bother you or not.
 
One more:

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I like the second one. But only so much can be gleaned from asets for these types of stones. What did the gemologist say??
 
The response from the gemologist:
"The great news is they are all pretty diamonds. Their K color offers a very slight yellow tint. They are all eye-clean and offer very good brilliance and sparkle. In comparing them to each other, diamond item number 160368 and diamond item number 41446 are your top contenders offering the most brilliance and sparkle. In diamond item number 160368 the bow-tie is very slight and the diamond appears the largest face-up. Diamond item number 41446, appears second largest face-up.

Diamond item number 23334 has medium bow-tie and some light leakage in the center, as per the Gemologist. It also appears the smallest face-up."
 
I'd ask more about the bowtie for the 1.36? I'd wanna know about that....

I still say the 1.36 I think as I find the facetting under the table more attractive. Bigger facets make bigger flashes.
 
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