August Vintage considered "Super Ideal"?

[foundlove25]

Looking at the Opulence Ovals, Cushions, and Rounds. Are these considered Super Ideal cuts? I'm curious how these stones compare to other Super Ideal stones like Whiteflash A Cut Above, Hearts on Fire, Brain Gavin's signature, Infinity.

Thoughts?

 

[bmfang]

Re: Opulence Ovals, I would consider those to be super ideal for that particular shape given that most ovals don’t exhibit that level of precision faceting nor light return.

Re: Vintage cushions, I don’t think there is much competition out there. Again, like the ovals, the vintage cushions are cut to precise levels of optical symmetry and have ags ideal light return.

Re: H&A, the vast majority of Jon’s H&A stones that I saw online as Ascendancy H&A stones in his former business concern (Good Old Gold) were definitely H&A and on par with WF, BGD, CBI, HoF. The only H&A stone he has in stock currently at August Vintage (that isn’t a diamond stimulant) appears to be a trade-in stone and is actually a BGD Signature H&A stone with a BGD knife edge solitaire included in the price.

https://augustvintageinc.com/collec...s/1-541ct-i-vs1-hearts-arrows-round-brilliant

 

[AdaBeta27]

The August Vintage European and cushion cuts are modern diamonds. They were specially designed to have the chunkier facets and taller crowns of old style diamonds, with today's maximum light performance. They are "superideal", with an antique look.

I own one of the Good Old Gold "Signature" H&A round diamonds, from 2009 when Jon was still at Good Old Gold. It is stunning. There are subtle and sometimes not-so-subtle differences in even the modern H&A rounds. Mine is AGS000 and ISee2.

 

[foundlove25]

Thank you both for your input! I'm excited about what Jon has going on at AV but I don't know enough about diamonds to know if they are considered "super ideal" or just sparkle bombs

 

[elizat]

I think that if you are looking at the round or the cushions, they are lovely stones. It takes a lot of guesswork out of buying an old style cut. Some old cuts are very warm and some have faceting that isn't optimal for some. I think that's part of the charm, but if you get a cushion or round, you are pretty much guaranteed it will be a great performer. Finding an old cut can take time because they are all so different, but the AV stones take guesswork out.

 

[sledge]

Brian Gavin (or BGD) also has an ideal cut cushion. It's more in line with the term "super ideal" in the fact it has hearts & arrows. But if you look at them, you will notice the faceting is much different than the AV line of cushions.

AV cushion is a modern spin based on old chunky faceting. BGD cushions is based on H&A round faceting and shaped like a cushion.

https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamond/brian-gavins-cushion-hearts-and-arrows

Generally speaking, when I think of the term "super ideal" a round diamond comes to mind and includes the following:

• AGS000 ideal certification
• True hearts & arrows symmetry
• Complete set of images (ASET, IS, H&A, etc) to provide confirmation of superior (ideal) light & symmetry performance

 

[gm89uk]

BGD cushions will look like a round to a lot of people.

 

[sledge]

BGD cushions will look like a round to a lot of people.

Agree. While I like the H&A precision, I personally am not a fan of their faceting as it looks like a funny round to me.

But for me, part of the charm of a cushion is those big chunky facets from yesteryear. I'm not even a fan of the modern crushed ice cushions either.

But again, all MY preferences. Reality is BGD cushions are ideal cut and have H&A precision, and I'm sure many love that.

 

[Rockdiamond]

I think it’s important to point out that the term “Super Ideal” is a commercial tag line. Like “crunchiest” or “tastiest”. My (insert product here) has the most zing
Not to say that there aren’t super well cut diamonds out there. Or that certain cutters take more care than others.
But it’s advertising- there’s no recognized gemological standard.

 

[foundlove25]

I think that if you are looking at the round or the cushions, they are lovely stones. It takes a lot of guesswork out of buying an old style cut. Some old cuts are very warm and some have faceting that isn't optimal for some. I think that's part of the charm, but if you get a cushion or round, you are pretty much guaranteed it will be a great performer. Finding an old cut can take time because they are all so different, but the AV stones take guesswork out.

Brian Gavin (or BGD) also has an ideal cut cushion. It's more in line with the term "super ideal" in the fact it has hearts & arrows. But if you look at them, you will notice the faceting is much different than the AV line of cushions.

AV cushion is a modern spin based on old chunky faceting. BGD cushions is based on H&A round faceting and shaped like a cushion.

https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamond/brian-gavins-cushion-hearts-and-arrows

Generally speaking, when I think of the term "super ideal" a round diamond comes to mind and includes the following:

• AGS000 ideal certification
• True hearts & arrows symmetry
• Complete set of images (ASET, IS, H&A, etc) to provide confirmation of superior (ideal) light & symmetry performance

What about the opulence? I understand that there really isn't anything else on the market like that yet to compare it to. I'm not sure what the standard is for a super ideal oval..

I like the list you gave about the rounds Sledge. Good points! thank you.