Antique Ring - Questions

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This ring is listed for £16,995.00. It claims to be from the 1930s with the center stone being L/SI and 3.95ct. I asked about what looks like a chip (fissure?) at approximately 2 o'clock but they claim it's not a chip. I'm no expert but this stone doesn't look to be the colour, clarity or age it is claiming. Is the price expensive as well? It is platinum and a size 4. The diamonds on the side are 0.80ct.

 

[RMOO]

I can’t speak to the price being fair or not. I just wanted to point out that it also looks like there is another chip(?) at 8 o’clock.

 

[Mrsz1ppy]

It looks dirty! Looking at that would not ‘spark joy,’ and that is how I evaluate potential purchases.

 

[LightBright]

This is not worth the price. If that’s the best photo they have of it, it shows an included stone. It looks like there’s a surface reaching inclusion/fissure at the edge of the table, too. It looks like an L color to me. The cut looks nice but I’m wondering if this is a newly cut stone, based on the terrible quality of the material. The cut style is from a hundred years before the setting. I would pass even though the cut looks fine on its own, the terrible clarity of the material does not warrant the price.

 

[lovedogs]

There's a surface reaching feather/fissure AND a chip at the edge. Absolutely overpriced

 

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I can’t speak to the price being fair or not. I just wanted to point out that it also looks like there is another chip(?) at 8 o’clock.

I thought there might be a chip there as well.

 

[lovedogs]

 

[Dreamer_D]

Yeah that’s a giant fissure at 2 o’clock. Something that notice should come with a lab report or at the least an incredibly detailed appraisal from a highly trusted source. The only reason not to include those is to bamboozle a client.

 

[Tinytreasurers]

In addition to the huge fissure and the chip, There is a lot of ton of carbon to the center of the culet, I’d pass.

 

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Thank you everyone for your feedback/opinions. In your opinions would it still qualify as an SI given the issues with clarity? Also, is it more of an OMC rather than an OEC (some have said it may be an older stone or even a newly cut stone)?

 

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Yeah that’s a giant fissure at 2 o’clock. Something that notice should come with a lab report or at the least an incredibly detailed appraisal from a highly trusted source. The only reason not to include those is to bamboozle a client.

I thought the denial of the obvious flaw (fissure/chip at 2 o'clock) was a bit of a red flag and made me not trust their expertise when evaluating colour/clarity.

 

[Tinytreasurers]

Absolutely not an SI stone with all that carbon on the table plus this chip plus the giant chunk of the stone that is missing. May I ask why you’re so curious about this stone? In your price range there are so many other options.

For a ring that price you should really get a stone that’s been GIA certified.

3.06ct GIA CERTIFIED OLD EUROPEAN CUT DIAMOND ENGAGEMENT RING VINTAGE PLATINUM

Why we love it:Crafted in the Art Deco era, this vintage engagement ring has a commanding presence with a dazzling 3.06 carat old European cut diamond center! The platinum setting is beautifully detailed with a diamond studded, intricate filigree dome shapeHighlights:- Original vintage from the...

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Absolutely not an SI stone with all that carbon on the table plus this chip plus the giant chunk of the stone that is missing. May I ask why you’re so curious about this stone? In your price range there are so many other options.

For a ring that price you should really get a stone that’s been GIA certified.

3.06ct GIA CERTIFIED OLD EUROPEAN CUT DIAMOND ENGAGEMENT RING VINTAGE PLATINUM

Why we love it:Crafted in the Art Deco era, this vintage engagement ring has a commanding presence with a dazzling 3.06 carat old European cut diamond center! The platinum setting is beautifully detailed with a diamond studded, intricate filigree dome shapeHighlights:- Original vintage from the...

ivyandrose.com

I'm interested in antique diamonds and wanted to know if my instincts were right about the issues with clarity and price....and it looks like they were correct based on what the experts here are saying.

 

[Tinytreasurers]

For what it’s worth, old cuts are all super unique - I’d recommend looking at lots and lots of stones on this forum, from sellers, on eBay, on IG, and in person at shops and antique fairs so you can start to narrow down on what you like and don’t like. finding -your- old diamond is like searching for a needle in a hay stack. What I love, you may not. Some of us don’t mind warmer stones while others do. Some demand great clarity, others are less concerned. Same for faceting and polish and fluorescence. That’s what makes old stones so fun, they are kind of like snowflakes.

Also, the more you search the better at pricing these stones you will get to and you may find a really good deal. I got my 1.83 carat old euro for $3k, but it was after a year of searching.

Lastly, it’s all about how the diamond makes you feel! You’ll know when you love a stone, it’s like hearing a sirens song.

 

[lovedogs]

No way its an SI. With the chip, fissure, carbon, its definitely I1 (at least)

 

[Mreader]

No way its an SI. With the chip, fissure, carbon, its definitely I1 (at least)

100% - a definite pass at that price! It’s a huge gash!!! It doesn’t look cut well even if that giant chunk weren’t there.