An expoloration of DO vs. SAY

[musey]

Date: 3/11/2009 9:48:47 PM
Author: TheBigT
I don''t generally trust others to size up their own (especially positive)personality traits. And it kind of bothers me to hear someone say something like, ''I''m really adorable and wise beyond my years.''

Has someone actually said that to you?!

WOW.

 

[Bia]

I think people can say whatever they want (and maybe I''ll set myself up to want to believe it subconsciously), but until I see it for myself, I won''t make that determination.


AND, IRL, this is something that happens ALL the time. People yack away about being a certain way, but when tested, they couldn''t be more opposite.

 

[CNOS128]

Date: 3/11/2009 9:51:28 PM
Author: musey

Date: 3/11/2009 9:48:47 PM

Author: TheBigT

I don''t generally trust others to size up their own (especially positive)personality traits. And it kind of bothers me to hear someone say something like, ''I''m really adorable and wise beyond my years.''

Has someone actually said that to you?!


WOW.

I have a very self-centered friend. She likes to talk about how adorable, tiny, large-breasted, and wealthy she is. And how big her ring will be when she gets engaged because of all the money her boyfriend will spend because of all the money he earns.

But I see it more often on the internet - yes, PS included (since it''s the only internet forum I read). Q: Describe yourself. A: I''m wise beyond my years, I have many fine qualities, People think of me as XYZ. I don''t want to quote too closely, in the interest of not completely offending those people.

 

[ladypirate]

Date: 3/11/2009 9:57:54 PM
Author: TheBigT

Date: 3/11/2009 9:51:28 PM
Author: musey

Date: 3/11/2009 9:48:47 PM

Author: TheBigT

I don''t generally trust others to size up their own (especially positive)personality traits. And it kind of bothers me to hear someone say something like, ''I''m really adorable and wise beyond my years.''

Has someone actually said that to you?!


WOW.

I have a very self-centered friend. She likes to talk about how adorable, tiny, large-breasted, and wealthy she is. And how big her ring will be when she gets engaged because of all the money her boyfriend will spend because of all the money he earns.

But I see it more often on the internet - yes, PS included (since it''s the only internet forum I read). Q: Describe yourself. A: I''m wise beyond my years, I have many fine qualities, People think of me as XYZ. I don''t want to quote too closely, in the interest of not completely offending those people.

This is my favorite. "Everyone says I''m [insert positive adjective here]." It''s like people delude themselves into thinking it''s not bragging, even though it totally is.

 

[FrekeChild]

Musey, you are the furthest thing from lame. FYI.

 

[princesss]

I tend to think that what people say is the opposite of what''s really true. I definitely feel like when people say, "Yeah, I''m so laid back," or "Everybody always talks about hwo nice I am," they''re trying really really hard to make you believe it. And if they''ve got to MAKE you believe it, it''s probably not true.

I generally try to just give people time to show me who they really are, because every time I''ve believed somebody, it''s ended up hurting me.

 

[musey]

Date: 3/11/2009 10:08:23 PM
Author: FrekeChild
Musey, you are the furthest thing from lame. FYI.

Thanks

Of course, now I seem like the attention-seeking sort. Wait, if I say that I''m attention-seeking, does it make me non-attention-seeking? I mean, if we''re following the rules of opposites, here.

Thank you for helping me see that line through, Freke!

In all honesty, I assign labels (in this case, "lame") in a self-deprecating way. Lots of other people do, and I tend to laugh about it and look no further. A couple of you have commented on the self-deprecation-variety of "I''m _______" comments... anyone else care to? Is it more/less/the same amount irritating as positive "I''m _______" comments?

 

[MonkeyPie]

Date: 3/11/2009 10:31:30 PM
Author: musey

Date: 3/11/2009 10:08:23 PM

Author: FrekeChild

Musey, you are the furthest thing from lame. FYI.

Thanks

Of course, now I seem like the attention-seeking sort. Wait, if I say that I''m attention-seeking, does it make me non-attention-seeking? I mean, if we''re following the rules of opposites, here.

Thank you for helping me see that line through, Freke!

In all honesty, I assign labels (in this case, ''lame'') in a self-deprecating way. Lots of other people do, and I tend to laugh about it and look no further. A couple of you have commented on the self-deprecation-variety of ''I''m _______'' comments... anyone else care to? Is it more/less/the same amount irritating as positive ''I''m _______'' comments?

Depends on the common. Calling yourself makes me giggle, but calling yourself ugly or fat? Attention-seeking.

 

[Dreamgirl]

Date: 3/11/2009 8:05:30 PM
Author: MonkeyPie
Probably not, but I was.

ok

 

[Dancing Fire]

well,since many of you admited that you''re lame,then i must be the most inteligent person on PS.

 

[CNOS128]

Date: 3/11/2009 10:48:49 PM
Author: Dancing Fire
well,since many of you admited that you''re lame,then i must be the most inteligent person on PS.

No, I am. Everyone always tells me how smart I am. I''m so very intelligent that it''s apparent not only to those who know me well, and those with whom I communicate on the internet, but also to people passing me on the street, and even those people who merely glimpse a picture of me. Everyone agrees, I''m quite intelligent.

 

[musey]

^^

 

[FrekeChild]

Date: 3/11/2009 10:53:29 PM
Author: TheBigT

Date: 3/11/2009 10:48:49 PM
Author: Dancing Fire
well,since many of you admited that you''re lame,then i must be the most inteligent person on PS.

No, I am. Everyone always tells me how smart I am. I''m so very intelligent that it''s apparent not only to those who know me well, and those with whom I communicate on the internet, but also to people passing me on the street, and even those people who merely glimpse a picture of me. Everyone agrees, I''m quite intelligent.

ROFLMAO!!!!!!

 

[Bia]

Date: 3/11/2009 10:53:29 PM
Author: TheBigT

No, I am. Everyone always tells me how smart I am. I''m so very intelligent that it''s apparent not only to those who know me well, and those with whom I communicate on the internet, but also to people passing me on the street, and even those people who merely glimpse a picture of me. Everyone agrees, I''m quite intelligent.

She''s got jokes.

 

[Clairitek]

Date: 3/11/2009 10:08:23 PM
Author: FrekeChild
Musey, you are the furthest thing from lame. FYI.

Ditto Freke (as usual... do we share a brain sometimes?).

 

[FrekeChild]

Date: 3/11/2009 11:05:13 PM
Author: Clairitek

Date: 3/11/2009 10:08:23 PM
Author: FrekeChild
Musey, you are the furthest thing from lame. FYI.

Ditto Freke (as usual... do we share a brain sometimes?).

Seriously. Between you and musey, and a few other ladies I feel like I''ve got brain twins all over the country. (Nick at Nite anyone?)

 

[decodelighted]

Date: 3/11/2009 10:41:51 PM
Author: MonkeyPie
calling yourself ugly or fat? Attention-seeking.

I thought I was dreaming but, no, this actually happened yesterday ...

Date: 3/10/2009 4:44:55 PM
Author: MonkeyPie
I'm wondering how many my tubby self would need to make myself a white version for our vow renewal in a few years

Do you consider that "attention seeking"?

 

[Hudson_Hawk]

Date: 3/11/2009 11:03:50 PM
Author: Bia

Date: 3/11/2009 10:53:29 PM

Author: TheBigT


No, I am. Everyone always tells me how smart I am. I''m so very intelligent that it''s apparent not only to those who know me well, and those with whom I communicate on the internet, but also to people passing me on the street, and even those people who merely glimpse a picture of me. Everyone agrees, I''m quite intelligent.

She''s got jokes.

hehehehe

 

[MonkeyPie]

Date: 3/11/2009 11:06:22 PM
Author: decodelighted

Date: 3/11/2009 10:41:51 PM

Author: MonkeyPie

calling yourself ugly or fat? Attention-seeking.

I thought I was dreaming but, no, this actually happened yesterday ...

Date: 3/10/2009 4:44:55 PM

Author: MonkeyPie

I''m wondering how many my tubby self would need to make myself a white version for our vow renewal in a few years

Do you consider that ''attention seeking''?

I was waiting for that lol. I almost added a note that I do it, too. Yeah, it probably is construed that. I will admit I didn''t think it through before I wrote it. But the fact is I am at LEAST 6 sizes bigger than the girls in the pictures - would you consider that tubby? Cause I do. Whether anyone agrees or not.

 

[decodelighted]

Date: 3/11/2009 11:10:52 PM
Author: MonkeyPie

Date: 3/11/2009 11:06:22 PM
Author: decodelighted

Date: 3/11/2009 10:41:51 PM
Author: MonkeyPie
calling yourself ugly or fat? Attention-seeking.

I thought I was dreaming but, no, this actually happened yesterday ...

Date: 3/10/2009 4:44:55 PM
Author: MonkeyPie
I''m wondering how many my tubby self would need to make myself a white version for our vow renewal in a few years

Do you consider that ''attention seeking''?

I was waiting for that lol. I almost added a note that I do it, too. Yeah, it probably is construed that. I will admit I didn''t think it through before I wrote it. But the fact is I am at LEAST 6 sizes bigger than the girls in the pictures - would you consider that tubby? Cause I do. Whether anyone agrees or not.

I was just wondering because I refer to myself (honestly) as plus-sized or curvy or various verisons of what is basically CHUBBO. I don''t do it for people to say "Nooooooo! You''re perfect sized!" I say it because it has to do with whatever I''m writing/shopping for/the picture I"m trying to paint ...

I do agree that sometimes people put themselves down in order to get reassurance ... but not everyone.

 

[EricaR]

Date: 3/11/2009 8:25:59 PM
Author: Skippy123

Date: 3/11/2009 5:23:29 PM

Author: MonkeyPie

If a person feels the need to point out repeatedly that they are a certain way (''I''m so nice!'' ''Don''t you think I''m nice?'' ''Everyone always says I''m SO NICE.''), then all that tells me is that they are insecure and they know that the opposite is actually the truth. And their actions (being purposefully hateful, saying rude things with no provocation, being verbally abusive and defensive) usually prove that.

Yeah I think it is weird when people say that or also say the opposite, ''Oh I am so snarky!'' I rather make up my own mind regarding others; it makes me wonder why people are labeling themselves.

I think some of this has to do with who someone is talking to. For example, Skippy is sooooo sweet, kind and nice that when I talk to her I can''t help but be nice. But put me together with Freke and the snark can fly.

 

[MonkeyPie]

Date: 3/11/2009 11:15:14 PM
Author: decodelighted

Date: 3/11/2009 11:10:52 PM

Author: MonkeyPie

Date: 3/11/2009 11:06:22 PM

Author: decodelighted

Date: 3/11/2009 10:41:51 PM

Author: MonkeyPie

calling yourself ugly or fat? Attention-seeking.

I thought I was dreaming but, no, this actually happened yesterday ...

Date: 3/10/2009 4:44:55 PM

Author: MonkeyPie

I''m wondering how many my tubby self would need to make myself a white version for our vow renewal in a few years

Do you consider that ''attention seeking''?

I was waiting for that lol. I almost added a note that I do it, too. Yeah, it probably is construed that. I will admit I didn''t think it through before I wrote it. But the fact is I am at LEAST 6 sizes bigger than the girls in the pictures - would you consider that tubby? Cause I do. Whether anyone agrees or not.

I was just wondering because I refer to myself (honestly) as plus-sized or curvy or various verisons of what is basically CHUBBO. I don''t do it for people to say ''Nooooooo! You''re perfect sized!'' I say it because it has to do with whatever I''m writing/shopping for/the picture I''m trying to paint ...


I do agree that sometimes people put themselves down in order to get reassurance ... but not everyone.

Exactly! I''m glad to know you understand. If I were a size 2 and calling myself fat, well, THAT would be attention seeking. But I am 18 on a good day and so I am SO FAR from thin lol. It''s just honesty.

 

[MonkeyPie]

Date: 3/11/2009 11:23:33 PM
Author: EricaR

Date: 3/11/2009 8:25:59 PM

Author: Skippy123

Date: 3/11/2009 5:23:29 PM

Author: MonkeyPie

If a person feels the need to point out repeatedly that they are a certain way (''I''m so nice!'' ''Don''t you think I''m nice?'' ''Everyone always says I''m SO NICE.''), then all that tells me is that they are insecure and they know that the opposite is actually the truth. And their actions (being purposefully hateful, saying rude things with no provocation, being verbally abusive and defensive) usually prove that.

Yeah I think it is weird when people say that or also say the opposite, ''Oh I am so snarky!'' I rather make up my own mind regarding others; it makes me wonder why people are labeling themselves.

I think some of this has to do with who someone is talking to. For example, Skippy is sooooo sweet, kind and nice that when I talk to her I can''t help but be nice. But put me together with Freke and the snark can fly.

LOL Freke and I snark, too. But there are a couple people that bring out the super-nice in me - musey, lauren and Skippy are defenitly some of them. And then there are a few that make me downright irate.

 

[FrekeChild]

Date: 3/11/2009 11:23:33 PM
Author: EricaR

Date: 3/11/2009 8:25:59 PM
Author: Skippy123

Date: 3/11/2009 5:23:29 PM
Author: MonkeyPie
If a person feels the need to point out repeatedly that they are a certain way (''I''m so nice!'' ''Don''t you think I''m nice?'' ''Everyone always says I''m SO NICE.''), then all that tells me is that they are insecure and they know that the opposite is actually the truth. And their actions (being purposefully hateful, saying rude things with no provocation, being verbally abusive and defensive) usually prove that.

Yeah I think it is weird when people say that or also say the opposite, ''Oh I am so snarky!'' I rather make up my own mind regarding others; it makes me wonder why people are labeling themselves.

I think some of this has to do with who someone is talking to. For example, Skippy is sooooo sweet, kind and nice that when I talk to her I can''t help but be nice. But put me together with Freke and the snark can fly.

Oh whatever, you know you don''t need lil'' ol'' me for the snark to fly.

You do just fine by yourself.

 

[FrekeChild]

Date: 3/11/2009 11:27:17 PM
Author: MonkeyPie

Date: 3/11/2009 11:23:33 PM
Author: EricaR

Date: 3/11/2009 8:25:59 PM
Author: Skippy123

Date: 3/11/2009 5:23:29 PM
Author: MonkeyPie
If a person feels the need to point out repeatedly that they are a certain way (''I''m so nice!'' ''Don''t you think I''m nice?'' ''Everyone always says I''m SO NICE.''), then all that tells me is that they are insecure and they know that the opposite is actually the truth. And their actions (being purposefully hateful, saying rude things with no provocation, being verbally abusive and defensive) usually prove that.

Yeah I think it is weird when people say that or also say the opposite, ''Oh I am so snarky!'' I rather make up my own mind regarding others; it makes me wonder why people are labeling themselves.

I think some of this has to do with who someone is talking to. For example, Skippy is sooooo sweet, kind and nice that when I talk to her I can''t help but be nice. But put me together with Freke and the snark can fly.

LOL Freke and I snark, too. But there are a couple people that bring out the super-nice in me - musey, lauren and Skippy are defenitly some of them. And then there are a few that make me downright irate.

Dang, I just bring out the snarkiness in everyone!

Tee hee, whats funny is I''ve been known to bring out the snark in Skippy and musey too.

 

[CNOS128]

Date: 3/11/2009 11:30:24 PM
Author: FrekeChild

Date: 3/11/2009 11:27:17 PM

Author: MonkeyPie

Date: 3/11/2009 11:23:33 PM

Author: EricaR

Date: 3/11/2009 8:25:59 PM

Author: Skippy123

Date: 3/11/2009 5:23:29 PM

Author: MonkeyPie

If a person feels the need to point out repeatedly that they are a certain way (''I''m so nice!'' ''Don''t you think I''m nice?'' ''Everyone always says I''m SO NICE.''), then all that tells me is that they are insecure and they know that the opposite is actually the truth. And their actions (being purposefully hateful, saying rude things with no provocation, being verbally abusive and defensive) usually prove that.

Yeah I think it is weird when people say that or also say the opposite, ''Oh I am so snarky!'' I rather make up my own mind regarding others; it makes me wonder why people are labeling themselves.

I think some of this has to do with who someone is talking to. For example, Skippy is sooooo sweet, kind and nice that when I talk to her I can''t help but be nice. But put me together with Freke and the snark can fly.

LOL Freke and I snark, too. But there are a couple people that bring out the super-nice in me - musey, lauren and Skippy are defenitly some of them. And then there are a few that make me downright irate.

Dang, I just bring out the snarkiness in everyone!


Tee hee, whats funny is I''ve been known to bring out the snark in Skippy and musey too.

I don''t believe you''re snarky just cuz you say so; you have to show me.

 

[Bia]

Date: 3/11/2009 11:34:39 PM
Author: TheBigT

I don''t believe you''re snarky just cuz you say so; you have to show me.

Yea Freke, show us what you''re made of...cause believe this, New Yorkers have made ''snark'' an art form. I''m not a New Yorker, I just live here...but BigT, she''s from the BK, ain''t ya Big?

 

[CNOS128]

Date: 3/11/2009 11:40:08 PM
Author: Bia

Date: 3/11/2009 11:34:39 PM

Author: TheBigT


I don''t believe you''re snarky just cuz you say so; you have to show me.

Yea Freke, show us what you''re made of...cause believe this, New Yorkers have made ''snark'' an art form. I''m not a New Yorker, I just live here...but BigT, she''s from the BK, ain''t ya Big?

Represent.

 

[Bia]

Date: 3/11/2009 11:41:34 PM
Author: TheBigT

Date: 3/11/2009 11:40:08 PM

Author: Bia

Date: 3/11/2009 11:34:39 PM

Author: TheBigT

I don't believe you're snarky just cuz you say so; you have to show me.

Yea Freke, show us what you're made of...cause believe this, New Yorkers have made 'snark' an art form. I'm not a New Yorker, I just live here...but BigT, she's from the BK, ain't ya Big?

Represent.

LOLOLOL

Boba!

 

[Dreamgirl]

Date: 3/11/2009 10:48:49 PM
Author: Dancing Fire
well,since many of you admited that you''re lame,then i must be the most inteligent person on PS.

That''s RIGHT!!!