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  1. Siyah
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    by Siyah » Dec 30, 2018
    I do not need to go bigger as long as the diamond will really look like a proper diamond and is prominent (and sparkling!) enough. The problem is that I can't imagine it yet, as I haven't seen it in real life.

    I also do not see a slider. Which one are you referring to? Can you post a screenshot?
     
  2. kipari
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    by kipari » Dec 30, 2018
    Nope, it's not.
    I can see it's about a third of a carat
     
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  3. kipari
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    Screenshot_20181230-223013.png here I picked a 1,2 CT random diamond
     
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  4. kipari
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    I think it is not 100% accurate but you get the general vibe of your size diamond with that setting
     
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  5. lovedogs
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    by lovedogs » Dec 30, 2018
    If you pick a diamond and then do "add to setting" then it'll show that size in the setting you choose.
     
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    by lovedogs » Dec 30, 2018
    Screenshot_20181230-141255_Chrome.jpg Screenshot_20181230-141301_Chrome.jpg Here's how you know. it says "shown w your diamond"
     
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  7. Siyah
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    You guys are amazing. Thank you very much for all the help! I will definitely let you know the status (and come back with questions for sure :)))
     
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    by Snowdrop13 » Dec 30, 2018
    5F0F92E2-8046-4606-8FE6-C3D398648100.jpeg

    See where I have circled? You can move this sideways to see different diamond sizes.
     
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  9. Siyah
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  11. Matilda
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    by Matilda » Dec 30, 2018
    this one is a bit of a high setting so may help the diamond POP, seem a bit bigger:

    https://www.bluenile.com/nl/build-y...l-ring-setting_36081?elem=title&track=product

    Also just some general information, not everywhere/one in Europe prefers small diamonds. Countries have different [email protected] what does her social circle wear?

    At D-G colour grade above 0.6 ct for 1500 euros may be tricky. But could be achieved! I know I suggested Fortrez but they are a bit pricier so may need to go smaller ct size. Definitely worth visiting them to get some more info!!
     
  12. Matilda
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    by Matilda » Dec 30, 2018
    also this is a handy site:

    0.6ct-round-5.43x5.45x3.30

    I plugged in dimensions of diamond the 0.6 G SI1 one and a finger size of 6.5 US. You can also adjust the ring width. Might help you visualise what it will look like.
     
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  13. kmoro
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    by kmoro » Dec 30, 2018
    Imma gonna comment here ...

    In my opinion, six prongs on a .5 carat are usually too much. Maybe if you can get the tiniest claw prongs, but otherwise I feel like it’s too much happening around a relatively small stone ... maybe .6 is beginning to be big enough ... however don’t worry - I’m sure many will disagree with me - I am just sharing my own thoughts.

    I would definitely recommend a thin band that tapers
    toward the stone. Some people don’t like knife-edge but I love them - they look nice and thin and carry some strength in height ... some have high shoulders but plenty of them don’t.



    This is a .62 on my hand. Four prong compass point orientation, 1.7 - 2 mm knife edge, tiny claw prongs.

    That first BN .6 stone looks very nice .. it scores 0.7 on the HCA calculator .... the only thing is that, within the parameters given for ideal cut, the crown angle (CA) and pavilion angle (PA) should complement each other. In this case, usually a 40.9 PA is the preferred match to a 34 CA, and a 40.6 PA is the preferred match for a 35 CA .... and 58 is sort of the biggest table size that most here would recommend ... at the same time on a .6 probably won’t make much difference. If possible to get an ASET image showing actual light performance, that might seal the deal for you ... but I think BN has trouble getting those images?

    Also, I think most vendors are low on inventory right now. You may want to wait a bit to see if more diamonds become available.

    My two and a half cents!

    :wavey:
     
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  14. lovedogs
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    I don't have that slider either :(
     
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  15. Siyah
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    I think so! I can try that, that is also fine. Thanks Snowdrop!

    Have no clue about what her social circle wears, but I know what she likes so that is a good thing.

    By the way, the first link is a G color so I should be fine I think, unless you think a D-E-F color is better on a 0.6ct diamond?

    Thanks a bunch! Nice one!

    Thank you very much for your valuable insights! I really appreciate it.

    Regarding your last sentences: do you think the CA and PA are not good enough and I should look for a better one?

    Wouldn't it sparkle well enough, you think?
     
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  16. kmoro
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    by kmoro » Dec 30, 2018
    You are welcome! I’m not sure about this diamond - the angles might work together very well. This is where the pictures and measurements fail - they don’t show actual light performance. We know the potential is there. Light performance pictures are needed to know for sure ... You can ask BN if any are available.
     
  17. Siyah
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    Thank you, kmoro. I asked them and they told me to call them and that they should be able to provide light performance pics.... no ASET though.

    I am from Europe, they are situated in the US, right? Is there an EU number I can call? This can be very expensive I suppose :D
     
  18. kmoro
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    I’m sorry I can’t help you with a phone number ... did you tell them you’re in Europe and calling is not so easy or convenient? I would expect them to send the images via an email request too ....
     
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  19. Siyah
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    No, he specifically said I have to call. I'll find out tomorrow and let you all know. Thanks for thinking with and for me!
     
  20. kmoro
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    Maybe ask them to call you? You could call and ask them to call back ...

    If you do pay for the call, I hope you consider it money well spent.

    Good luck!
     
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  21. rockysalamander
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    I agree with your setting comnents. As long as her finger are slimmer at the base, knife edge is fine. If they are wider at the base, I'd stick with a smother top.
     
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  22. kipari
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    When I was on my local site the EU phone number(Ireland) was displayed on the screen (see my screen shot) . Should be the same for you.
     
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  23. Siyah
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    So, considering this is her hand...



    What would you say?

    @kmoro: I'll call them asap.
     
  24. Siyah
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    Yes, so I called them, but unfortunately they can not provide photos like that for non-Astor diamonds...

    Too bad!

    Is it still worth the "guess" or should I look further?
     
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    by lovedogs » Dec 31, 2018
    None of these have proportions that are ideal. But I'm confused now about your budget. I thought you wanted to stay under 1600 USD. The JA stones you linked are 1800-1950 USD, and that doesn't include VAT or import duties. If your budget can go up to $1950 then that changes things a lot.
     
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  27. Siyah
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    Hello there,

    Let me put it this way: until 2k (including the setting, incl. VAT as well), I would be fine. So that gives me 1700 Euros or so to get a proper diamond...

    Could we find a good one?
     
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  28. lovedogs
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    Ok, but that means the ones you linked from JA are out of budget. Because they were 1850-1950 without a setting, and without any VAT or taxes.
     
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  29. Siyah
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    I did not calculate that, so you are absolutely right.

    I think I'll stick to the 0.6ct diamond that was said being good here.

    https://www.bluenile.com/nl/build-your-own-ring/diamond-details/LD10450979

    The only question I have left now: is it eye-clean? Can someone tell me that or is that impossible to tell?
     
  30. lovedogs
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    It is almost certainly eye clean frrom about 6-12 inches away from your face. It may be clean closer up depending on your vision.
     
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