Many vendors will give you an insured label to send. That way you yourself would not have to worry about sending it yourself and purchasing the insurance to do so. At the very least I would contact Old World diamonds just to see what they say. Where is the other stone by the way?
I think I will try to do so!
I'll keep you guys updated on what they tell me!
The other diamond is still in the family, but it does not belong to very close relatives
It is also encased on a ring (it should be almost identical)
I just wrote an email to both Jewels by Grace and Old World Diamonds, once they reply I'll let you know!
Talk to a real appraiser who can actually evaluate the stone. It's a big deal. Color is important. Clarity is important. The difference between cutting to a round brilliant, repairing it as a euro, and selling it as is is important.Hello!!
Thank you again for your kind suggestions
And yes, I don't think I will talk again with that jeweler, that's for sure
If you want to share the reddit pictures please do so!
(also, those were also shot by me but just under a bad light!)
Sounds as if you personally dropping off-picking up the diamond at a lab would alleviate your mother's anxiety about sending the diamond overseas? If so, a couple of FYIs:
* You can make in-person drop-offs and pick-ups at GIA Antwerp, provided you first make an appointment:
* But scroll down that page to the Preparing Your Shipment section, and you'll see that GIA Antwerp will accept only "deep boiled" loose, polished diamonds. Deep boiling (in acid) is definitely not a do-it-yourself project for you at home or something your local jeweler will perform, but perhaps the local jeweler can arrange for that.
* More importantly for you, however, it doesn't look as if GIA Antwerp grades diamonds that are 4 carats or more:
* Also will accept only diamonds that have been boiled. See section 4. Conditions precedent on this page:
I remember a previous poster here 4-5 years ago saying that HRD informed him they mean freshly boiled; it's not enough that the diamond was boiled at some previous point. Antwerp does have a fair number of boiling facilities, but the websites/other business info suggest that they deal with those "in the trade," not consumers like us.
Gubelin in Lucerne
* Does offer in-person drop-offs and pick-ups. Rush service -- analysis completed within 2 working days -- will cost 300 Swiss Francs, but you'd want to email or call them before you book a hotel room since they may not always be able to do the turn-around that quickly.
* Also, Gubelin expects that you have insured the stone for while it's in their possession (and in transit to-from the lab if using a shipping service). They do offer insurance for the time it's n their possession (although they apparently don't guarantee that they will insure every stone they receive) for an additional fee. More info about that upon request.
SSEF in Basel
* Does not accept in-person drop-offs and pick-ups.
* Here, the Express service is 1-1/2 times the usual cost of report; grading is done within 3 business days; prior appointment required.
* You must either ship the stone with proof of full insurance -- or purchase insurance coverage via SSEF for the time the stone is in their possession.
* Free "Ferrari Shuttle" service, until December 31, for shipping stones from-back certain locations around the world, but this looks to be for those in the trade. But there's no downside to calling for clarification/more information about that:
But as you've previously noted, without an appraisal, you have no idea of value, no proof to offer should you have to file an insurance claim if tragedy struck and the stone was lost or damaged. Perhaps if you share what country you're in, what city is closest to you, some PSers might be able to offer suggestions re an appraiser (suggest that you start a separate thread for that purpose so the reason for your query is clear from the subject title).
@denverappraiser, @737liz, thank you too guys!
It's hard to make the right choices and choose the right people/places to do this kind of work since I'm the farthest thing from an expert in this field... I'm afraid to make bad decisions and everything seems way out of my capacities right now
Adam has a network of people including cutters who could rehab the stone. It doesn’t have to be made perfect and smaller, it would have an area that was lower in diameter (plenty of old cut stones have characteristics like this). Adam has a blanket insurance policy that covers all shipments. Value doesn’t even have to be declared, as far as I know. If it does, I’m sure he would aim high. He doesn’t pay insurance cost per shipment.
I would strongly recommend sending it to Adam.
if you are nervous about sending, there are some other European labs that are ok. Obviously they are less common than HRD or GIA, but better than nothing and just as reliable in terms of grading. Some may argue with me, but in Europe, they are respected labs.
Not sure where you are, but these might be close enough to drive to.
Gubelin in Lucerne
Ssef in Basel
Diamant Pruflabor in idar oberstein
At this point, getting a proper appraisal ( not diamond grading report) would be good for your personal insurance. This can easily be done in your home city. The appraisal should not be from a jeweler or gold purchasing shop etc. Better to get the appraisal done by a diamond dealer (who does not buy diamonds from the public) or standalone professional appraiser. Be sure to check what kind of appraisals are accepted by your insurance company first.
In Europe, a lot of people/places charge you a percentage of the value of the item. Do NOT use them. It would be too expensive. Use a flat fee service.
Your stone has more value as an old cut. Keep it safe and explore your options.
I may have echoed some advice already mentioned. Sorry for the repetition! Good luck!