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10mm/3.85ct OEC Lab Diamond from Ouros

Ohhh. That's a nice one that I could be tempted to adopt if I won the lottery. I still would love to see a taller crown though but if I'm ready to buy, I'd ask Vijay to cut me one like it with a taller crown.
 
oooo that's really pretty!! I like the chubby facets
 
Oooh very tempting. Pricing on lab diamonds are all over the place at the moment - this is lower for example than I would have expected for size. At the same time more than others are charging. Very interesting to watch the market.

I am about to take a huge chance and have an approximately 3ct oec cut by another vendor (who I have had some good success with), and they will then send it to IGI on my behalf. Will keep you posted.
 
RockFox said:
Oooh very tempting. Pricing on lab diamonds are all over the place at the moment - this is lower for example than I would have expected for size. At the same time more than others are charging. Very interesting to watch the market.

I am about to take a huge chance and have an approximately 3ct oec cut by another vendor (who I have had some good success with), and they will then send it to IGI on my behalf. Will keep you posted.
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That sounds like a very exciting project. We need more OEC vendors for LGDs. Looking forward to seeing your OEC.
 
kgizo said:
Does anyone else see a brown tint to this stone?
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Yes thats what I thought too. It looks very nice apart from the brown tint.
 
Kim N said:
That sounds like a very exciting project. We need more OEC vendors for LGDs. Looking forward to seeing your OEC.
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We definitely do need more vendors.

And a small update. It is in process, but will take a while. Cutting is 7 days (luckily good rough was in stock) and then it goes to IGI for 20. Then it has to be set and posted. So I expect about 2 months of waiting. Hoping it will be worth it. Will post it as soon as I have it.
 
RockFox said:
We definitely do need more vendors.

And a small update. It is in process, but will take a while. Cutting is 7 days (luckily good rough was in stock) and then it goes to IGI for 20. Then it has to be set and posted. So I expect about 2 months of waiting. Hoping it will be worth it. Will post it as soon as I have it.
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@RockFox Please let us know who the vendor was!
 
Hi all

light is fading and I just received the OEC - she is glorious. Very close up shot included for now. Tiny snafu on the setting (inspiration photo of a member’s setting became a copy, which wasn’t the intent). It was probably more my fault than the vendor re clear comms on the CAD. As such I have to figure a way around that before taking more photos. May require a reset.
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Dayum! That’s beautiful.
 
@RockFox that is beautiful! Please share the vendor and many more photos.
 
molecule said:
@RockFox Please let us know who the vendor was!
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Kim N said:
@RockFox that is beautiful! Please share the vendor and many more photos.
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The vendor is Fiorese via Instagram. I am not quite comfortable posting more photos until I sort the setting as it really is too close to a copy and I wouldn’t want to offend. Again that was my bad on CAD comms not the vendor. Have bought plenty from them and have been nothing but pleased. The diamond itself is glorious.
 
Yippee for your diamond! Too bad on the setting… I am impatient on your behalf.
 
Update on the 10mm, 3.85 ct OEC from Ouros Jewels- here’s what she looks like now. Platinum setting with a hand engraved bezel done by David Klass (he added the rope shank to the original ring and engraved the bezel for me). It is also IGI certified as an I color, VS2 clarity.

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Applebutter said:
Update on the 10mm, 3.85 ct OEC from Ouros Jewels- here’s what she looks like now. Platinum setting with a hand engraved bezel done by David Klass (he added the rope shank to the original ring and engraved the bezel for me). It is also IGI certified as an I color, VS2 clarity.

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Beautiful diamond, and the hand-engraving is gorgeous.
 
Woah, that is gorgeous. More photos! Hand shots!

Would you mind posting in the thread on specialty cut LGDs, too? Trying to keep a thread with references to LGD vendors who are doing less common cuts.

Not-of-this-Earth specialty-cut grudge match! (I.e. show me your LGD specialty cuts.)

Thought it might be nice to have examples in one thread of LGD specialty cuts and vendors who provide them. If you have a LGD in an uncommon or proprietary cut, or know of a vendor who sells them, post them here. Antique cuts, superideals, etc. Grudge match format optional. :) —- In this...
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I don’t know I missed this! I remember that stone, I almost bought it more than once. What you’ve done with it is beautiful! Congrats!
 
I have seen some oros cuts and they are gorg , some I dont adore... prices way better than distinctive gem, which is way too overpriced. PERIod any thought or vendors not doing beautiful vintage cut lab
 
blingerlabrbest said:
I have seen some oros cuts and they are gorg , some I dont adore... prices way better than distinctive gem, which is way too overpriced. PERIod any thought or vendors not doing beautiful vintage cut lab
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Ouros is horrible. What you get when you buy is nothing like the nice stones you see in pictures on the website, and there's no option to return or cancel the order. Some people like the cut of stones from Fiorese, while others don't care for the cut. DiamondRensu has been recommended to me, but I've not personally had experience with them yet. Alex Park on Instagram puts up some nice-looking OECs for a great price on his page, but if you're not constantly stalking his page so that you happen to be there the moment the stone goes up, someone else will get it first, so they're difficult to get.

And since you didn't get the message the first time, I'll say it again, louder: you're not going to make friends here putting down one of the most respected, trusted vendors in the history of this forum. Are Jonathon's prices high? Yes - because he's put blood and sweat into patenting multiple cuts that set the bar for antique cuts and ovals in mined stones, as well as setting the bar for the best-cut lab stones in ANY of the shapes he offers and the most gorgeous, diamond-like moissanite on the market. He also provides access to a master bench for top-notch work creating pieces, impeccable customer service, and trustworthiness out the wazoo.

Trust me, as someone who's had a lousy experience with Loose Grown Diamond and an absolutely nightmarish one with Ouros - you get what you pay for. I will be GLAD to save my pennies until I can afford to give Jonathon my business.
 
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Ouros is not selling on Etsy anymore, don't know how long ago when they stopped.

DK :(2
 
and I think (distinctive gem) is great, amazing customer service for sure .. just fyi to anyone I also believe stones are top notch, but still way way overpriced . thats all
 
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blingerlabrbest said:
Hello nutty,
I am not here to make friends, first of all, many have blood sweat and tears into their business, sounds like you work for him ? I guarantee any jeweler can get on her and tell you Lab Diamonds are very cheap to buy it doesnt cost thousands to cut , ever... His stones are gorgeous , yes, but gorging the heck out of people inflating over 100 percent no doubt, I said nothing bad but he is overpriced... telling the truth and allowed to speak my opinion. Im hear to learn and find out more info on them, I dont care if you agree or like it or not. YOu are a lunatic, you have no idea, pennies, try thousands ... and HOW DARE YOU talk badly about ouros on here, TRYING TO lose friends??? cooo cooo
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As an impartial observation:

(1) Designing and patenting cuts is a lot of work. It’s also expensive. It requires creating numerous designs, cutting numerous prototypes, seeing what works and what doesn’t, redesigning, cutting new prototypes again and so on. It’s easy to underestimate what’s involved in the R&D.

(2) Screening every stone for good crystal and throwing out the ones with striations is also expensive. It requires special equipment, consumes time and requires you discard a lot of rough.

(3) Hiring high-level lapidaries that have the skill to do such precision cutting in a consistent manner (and achieve AGS 000 light performance) is much more expensive than hiring people with minimal training who cut “on the fly” without a plan or diagram.

(4) Rejecting stones that are not up to snuff also drives up cost.

(5) Certifying every single stone also adds expense.

These are all things that Distinctive gem does and Ouros does not. That is why the prices are higher.

The stones that come from Distinctive gem are extremely consistent in terms of material and cutting.

The stones that come from Ouros are all over the place. After several rounds with them, I had to stop and cut my losses. Sometimes the stones are decent. Other times they are disastrous. I get the impression that many of their cutters have minimal training and none of them use faceting diagrams. Everything is “eyeballed”. That works if you have a master cutter like The Gem Doctor. It’s an epic fail when an inexperienced cutter attempts it.

With Distinctivegem, you will absolutely pay more.

You will also get exactly what you expect and, if it’s not up to snuff, you can send it back (though their quality control is so high that It’s hard to imagine this happening).

With Ouros, it’s a major gamble - and it’s not a surprise that they won’t accept returns. Sometimes, they will try to pass off stone that are, IMO, literally garbage.

If you order from them, you might get a great stone at a discount.

Or if your experience is like mine, you will like get several stones that literally have to be thrown in the trash bin.

Let me say that again: I have literally tossed several stones from Ouros into the trash bin.

The issues with both crystal and cut quality were so bad that they were not worth mounting.

Ouros claims to have quality control but, if that is the case, their standards are clearly much lower than mine.

I did get a few stones that I convinced myself were “decent” enough to use as accent stones but, after mounting them in otherwise beautifully made jewelry, I regret it. They just made otherwise beautifully crafted pieces look bad…and cheap.

In the end, attempting to save a few bucks cost me way more than had I just paid a reliable cutting house.

I’m not here to attack, praise or sway anybody’s decisions.

You all can do as you please.

I’m just chiming in with my own observations, experiences and how I understand the price differences.

As for Alex Price’s diamonds, I hear nothing but good things. I don’t think you are likely to get AGS 000 ideal light performance like with Distinctive Gem. If that’s not an issue most people love the cutting and the pricing is as good as it gets.
 
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Dr_Diesel said:
@OboeGal



As an impartial observation:

(1) Designing and patenting cuts is a lot of work. It’s also expensive. It requires creating numerous designs, cutting numerous prototypes, seeing what works and what doesn’t, redesigning, cutting new prototypes again and so on. It’s easy to underestimate what’s involved in the R&D.

(2) Screening every stone for good crystal and throwing out the ones with striations is also expensive. It requires special equipment, consumes time and requires you discard a lot of rough.

(3) Hiring high-level lapidaries that have the skill to do such precision cutting in a consistent manner (and achieve AGS 000 light performance) is much more expensive than hiring people with minimal training who cut “on the fly” without a plan or diagram.

(4) Rejecting stones that are not up to snuff also drives up cost.

(5) Certifying every single stone also adds expense.

These are all things that Distinctive gem does and Ouros does not. That is why the prices are higher.

The stones that come from Distinctive gem are extremely consistent in terms of material and cutting.

The stones that come from Ouros are all over the place. After several rounds with them, I had to stop and cut my losses. Sometimes the stones are decent. Other times they are disastrous. I get the impression that many of their cutters have minimal training and none of them use faceting diagrams. Everything is “eyeballed”. That works if you have a master cutter like The Gem Doctor. It’s an epic fail when an inexperienced cutter attempts it.

With Distinctivegem, you will absolutely pay more.

You will also get exactly what you expect and, if it’s not up to snuff, you can send it back (though their quality control is so high that It’s hard to imagine this happening).

With Ouros, it’s a major gamble - and it’s not a surprise that they won’t accept returns. Sometimes, they will try to pass off stone that are, IMO, literally garbage.

If you order from them, you might get a great stone at a discount.

Or if your experience is like mine, you will like get several stones that literally have to be thrown in the trash bin.

Let me say that again:

I have literally thrown several of their stones in the trash bin.

The issues with both crystal and cut quality were so bad that they were not worth mounting.

Ouros claims to have quality control but, if that is the case, their standards are clearly much lower than mine.

I did get a few stones that I convinced myself were “decent” enough to use as accent stones but, after mounting them in otherwise beautifully made jewelry, I regret it. They just made otherwise beautifully crafted pieces look bad…and cheap.

In the end, attempting to save a few bucks cost me way more than had I just paid a reliable cutting house.

I’m not here to attack, praise or sway anybody’s decisions.

You all can do as you please.

I’m just chiming in with my own observations, experiences and how I understand the price differences.

As for Alex Price’s diamonds, I hear nothing but good things. I don’t think you are likely to get AGS 000 ideal light performance like with Distinctive Gem. If that’s not an issue most people love the cutting and the pricing is as good as it gets.
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On a similar note, if you want a see a professional consultant of some kind (to make it tangible, let's assume it is a therapist), you can consult with someone who has a minimal online certification and charges $70/hr.

They might be helpful. They might not. There is also a chance that they might do more harm than good.

Alternately, you could consult with someone with a doctoral degree, a decade of additional postgraduate training and 20 years of clinical experience for $300/hr

Why would anyone pay $300 when you can get an hour of counseling for $70????

Or, better yet, why not consult with an online chatbot for a $29.99 unlimited monthly subscription?

As@OboeGal pointed out, sometimes you get what you pay for.

There are always ways to cut costs, and it typically involves compromising quality.

Every one of us has to make a personal decision about what our own threshold is.

****I am choosing the example of a therapist because the topic is fresh in my mind. I was just chatting with friend who happens to be a clinical psychologist. She was telling me about the range of experiences her clients have had in the past and was marveling at the variability in quality - and that many people are not clear about the differences from one provider to the next or the meaning of different qualifications.
 
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