Yet another Burmese ruby comparison thread

[dk168]

I would love to have a sizable star Ruby, and it does not exist without silks.

I am done with red stones now that I have a 2ct+ Chatham Ruby waiting in the wings with Jeff W with one more ring in mind.

DK

 

[VividRed]

She's positively gorgeous! Do your natural light photos often look this warm/yellow? Mine are always so blue/cool, which sucks the life out of everything but, well, blue stones!

Ah, good point @Autumn in New England , that’s an old picture that captured the color nicely, not sure what the red/warm shades on the white cotton are, maybe a reflection of what I was wearing

 

[Autumn in New England]

This is the only thing I don't understand about you. How can you dislike silk? Silk maketh ruby! And all corundum really. Silk is queen! Everything is better with silk. You are in possession of one of the most spectacular and perfect rubies I've seen on this board, and you dislike one of the attributes that make it so perfect! Why, woman? Why?

That is very kind of you to say; thanks for the encouragement! I am learning to appreciate the "glow" more after seeing stones like "velvet" light up this forum so spectacularly. I guess I just look at how sparkly some of Inken's rubies are... lol But it doesn't matter anyway, because after a couple of previous upgrades, I've definitely reached the ceiling of my ruby budget with this guy. So it's very unlikely you'll be seeing anything better from me, unless I sell my house.

 

[Autumn in New England]

Ah, good point @Autumn in New England , that’s an old picture that captured the color nicely, not sure what the red/warm shades on the white cotton are, maybe a reflection of what I was wearing

I have a real problem with my black phone causing obstruction... especially with step-cut gems in lighter tones, like the mint garnet. I need to get a white case, because I've taken to covering the phone with paper towel during photos now! Anyway, it's funny how surroundings can influence gem photos, but I suppose they are sort of tiny little mirrors.

 

[Dreamer_D]

No help from me but loving the eye candy in this thread.

I’m amazing at how much credence so many people apply to current “AI” tech given how monstrously ill-informed and random its outputs are. I guess the massive cultural campaign about its genius is working. I do think it’s worth reminding everyone that not only are its outputs useless in most cases, but its use is ruining the environment too. Pretty costly little “toy” contributing to the downfall of humanity IMO!

 

[Autumn in New England]

I would love to have a sizable star Ruby, and it does not exist without silks.

I am done with red stones now that I have a 2ct+ Chatham Ruby waiting in the wings with Jeff W with one more ring in mind.

DK

I forgot what shape you said it will be, DK? It's going to be interesting to see a perfect, sparkling ruby.

 

[Autumn in New England]

No help from me but loving the eye candy in this thread.

I’m amazing at how much credence so many people apply to current “AI” tech given how monstrously ill-informed and random its outputs are. I guess the massive cultural campaign about its genius is working. I do think it’s worth reminding everyone that not only are its outputs useless in most cases, but its use is ruining the environment too. Pretty costly little “toy” contributing to the downfall of humanity IMO!

I think many of us are concerned about the potential consequences, Dreamer. Plus, I am a 90's baby. The terror inflicted upon us by Skynet is irreparable.

 

[Dreamer_D]

I think many of us are concerned about the potential consequences, Dreamer. Plus, I am a 90's baby. The terror inflicted upon us by Skynet is irreparable.

Yes has everyone forgotten the lessons taught by cannon sci-fi??

My post wasn’t meant to admonish people in this thread so much as the silent readers now and in the future! And maybe some people I’ve met in person too. I remember one dinner with an acquaintance just singing the praises of this tech and how brilliant it is and I wanted to despair. We are still trying to figure out how to adapt to it in academia.

 

[Autumn in New England]

Yes has everyone forgotten the lessons taught by cannon sci-fi??

My post wasn’t meant to admonish people in this thread so much as the silent readers now and in the future! And maybe some people I’ve met in person too. I remember one dinner with an acquaintance just singing the praises of this tech and how brilliant it is and I wanted to despair. We are still trying to figure out how to adapt to it in academia.

Your integrity demands that it be mentioned, and I respect that!

 

[Sydneyphoenix]

No help from me but loving the eye candy in this thread.

I’m amazing at how much credence so many people apply to current “AI” tech given how monstrously ill-informed and random its outputs are. I guess the massive cultural campaign about its genius is working. I do think it’s worth reminding everyone that not only are its outputs useless in most cases, but its use is ruining the environment too. Pretty costly little “toy” contributing to the downfall of humanity IMO!

I think many of us are concerned about the potential consequences, Dreamer. Plus, I am a 90's baby. The terror inflicted upon us by Skynet is irreparable.

Just me in this thread, and I have to repent of that sin of over-trusting AI in gemological evaluation.

 

[Autumn in New England]

Just me in this thread, and I have to repent of that sin of over-trusting AI in gemological evaluation.

Hey we're always looking for new tools to help us evaluate gems, right?!

 

[Sydneyphoenix]

Okay some more videos of the 1.02ct ruby without extra lighting, looks better than the last batch.

https://imgur.com/a/8ZcOCtQ

 

[Autumn in New England]

Okay some more videos of the 1.02ct ruby without extra lighting, looks better than the last batch.

https://imgur.com/a/8ZcOCtQ

We've already discussed the window, so I'm going to put that aside. I absolutely love the color and clarity!! You might want to get it home to see in person. The one thing that gives me pause is that the vendor will only accept an exchange. If you're cool with that, then by all means, proceed. For me, I'd don't like feeling bound by any particular seller. How do you feel about it? If this stone doesn't work out, do you have confidence he'll be able to find what you want while staying on budget?

 

[dk168]

I forgot what shape you said it will be, DK? It's going to be interesting to see a perfect, sparkling ruby.

It will be a pear and I shall have my own Chaumet inspired Josephine ring.

DK

 

[Autumn in New England]

It will be a pear and I shall have my own Chaumet inspired Josephine ring.

DK

Ah is that what they call it?! I've been referring to that style as a pear chevron. lol It will be gorgeous! Are you using natural or lab diamonds?

 

[Avondale]

The one thing that gives me pause is that the vendor will only accept an exchange.

Eeeeexcuse me, what? For 12k? Some businesses have no respect for consumer rights... An online purchase should always be returnable and refundable.

 

[mellowyellowgirl]

I honestly don’t know the going price of rubies but is it a deal of a lifetime @Sydneyphoenix?

I can understand putting up with some sketchy conditions for a stone which is not achievable under normal circumstances but $12000 is a lot of credit to be beholden to one vendor.

 

[Autumn in New England]

Eeeeexcuse me, what? For 12k? Some businesses have no respect for consumer rights... An online purchase should always be returnable and refundable.

Agreed. Buying gems online and spending $$$ on something we haven't seen in person is difficult even for the most experienced collector. But maybe I'm biased... I get annoyed if they deduct the original shipping from my refund. lol Like we both took a risk, buddy. I pay one way, you pay the other. That's the cost of doing business.

 

[Bron357]

Is it $12k US or AUD?
It’s very clear and a nice colour but I’m not “convinced” about the “no extra light” because I’m seeing a light source reflection in the facets as they move.
This is “no extra light” in my opinion, I purposely made sure no “light” was hitting the ruby.

 

[dk168]

Ah is that what they call it?! I've been referring to that style as a pear chevron. lol It will be gorgeous! Are you using natural or lab diamonds?

Lab as I am planning to use 2 sets of pears so that it resembles a fan.

DK

 

[Sydneyphoenix]

Hey we're always looking for new tools to help us evaluate gems, right?!

Thank you for empathising.

We've already discussed the window, so I'm going to put that aside. I absolutely love the color and clarity!! You might want to get it home to see in person. The one thing that gives me pause is that the vendor will only accept an exchange. If you're cool with that, then by all means, proceed. For me, I'd don't like feeling bound by any particular seller. How do you feel about it? If this stone doesn't work out, do you have confidence he'll be able to find what you want while staying on budget?

Yeah I am not too happy about it, will negotiate with vendor but if no refund might have to put it on hold and see if other vendors are offering something better. Has anyone dealt with this vendor on instagram, any good?

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[Sydneyphoenix]

Eeeeexcuse me, what? For 12k? Some businesses have no respect for consumer rights... An online purchase should always be returnable and refundable.

Is it $12k US or AUD?
It’s very clear and a nice colour but I’m not “convinced” about the “no extra light” because I’m seeing a light source reflection in the facets as they move.
This is “no extra light” in my opinion, I purposely made sure no “light” was hitting the ruby.

More like USD $12,900 after the certifications. I have decided to negotiate about refund option, if absolutely no refund I will put this 1.02ct on back burner and look at other vendors for awhile.

That’s a lovely ruby without extra lighting @Bron357

 

[VividRed]

Is it $12k US or AUD?
It’s very clear and a nice colour but I’m not “convinced” about the “no extra light” because I’m seeing a light source reflection in the facets as they move.
This is “no extra light” in my opinion, I purposely made sure no “light” was hitting the ruby.

In all fairness, nothing beats your ruby

 

[VividRed]

@Sydneyphoenix buying a 12k 1ct ruby without refund possible is a no-go. I didn’t see that earlier, else I would have mentioned it right away.

That’s too big a gamble

 

[Sydneyphoenix]

@Sydneyphoenix buying a 12k 1ct ruby without refund possible is a no-go. I didn’t see that earlier, else I would have mentioned it right away.

That’s too big a gamble

The 1.06ct ruby ($10,445 one) vendor allows return/refund. Maybe should ask them to find a stone similar in colour and clarity to 1.02ct for budget of $13,000, certification inclusive.

 

[Autumn in New England]

Is it $12k US or AUD?
It’s very clear and a nice colour but I’m not “convinced” about the “no extra light” because I’m seeing a light source reflection in the facets as they move.
This is “no extra light” in my opinion, I purposely made sure no “light” was hitting the ruby.

This is stunning! I know I've seen you share him (her?) before, but please tell me more, if you don't mind.

 

[Bron357]

This is stunning! I know I've seen you share him (her?) before, but please tell me more, if you don't mind.

Wee ruby came with pancake Ruby as well lots of sisters, cousins and friends from the gem haul.
Wee one is 1.13 carats (pancake is 1.68 carats) and both presumed to be unheated Mogok ruby. No certification so far. I’m not comfortable posting it anywhere with our crazy and unpredictable customs environment (the fiasco with the “bio hazard” lab diamond was stressful enough). So I have to go personally to Bangkok to use Lotus Gemology. I’ll get there eventually.
Pancake Ruby was/is being set into a ring (another fiasco, sigh) because the preferred work bench is really busy and behind. I have got the fixed watch conversion back though.

 

[Autumn in New England]

Wee ruby came with pancake Ruby as well lots of sisters, cousins and friends from the gem haul.
Wee one is 1.13 carats (pancake is 1.68 carats) and both presumed to be unheated Mogok ruby. No certification so far. I’m not comfortable posting it anywhere with our crazy and unpredictable customs environment (the fiasco with the “bio hazard” lab diamond was stressful enough). So I have to go personally to Bangkok to use Lotus Gemology. I’ll get there eventually.
Pancake Ruby was/is being set into a ring (another fiasco, sigh) because the preferred work bench is really busy and behind. I have got the fixed watch conversion back though.

Ugh... I LOVE her!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Sydneyphoenix]

Okay the vendor agreed to a refund OR store credit if I tell him within 24 hours after receiving the 1.02ct ruby, with the purchase subject to satisfactory GRS and GIA certifications.

 

[Autumn in New England]

Okay the vendor agreed to a refund OR store credit if I tell him within 24 hours after receiving the 1.02ct ruby, with the purchase subject to satisfactory GRS and GIA certifications.

As someone who knows immediately whether I like something, I'd be ok with this. Are you comfortable deciding within 24 hours? At least you'll know it's already (double) certified.