Would You call my diamond too yellow...

[Confection10]

All begans when I put my ring for sale. Just for the curious (not seriously want to or I have to sell it) but just for the curiousity what Finnish people would think about this kind size and cut style. Here large diamond is .20 and HUGE .50ct. People here prefer high color and high clarity over size ( except me). Prices are at least twice that much to USA. People take small colorless (and I really mean small) and vvs1 over size, lower color or clarity. Any day in week. I could bet, that my oec is the one and the only in Finland ( and of corse my other treasures).I doubt they even can't understand the beauty and imperfections of old stones. I'm mean , I know.
There was a guy who was very interested in. I gave him all information I have. And plenty of photos. The result was; my OEC is too yellow. I admit; I was a little hurt. He said my beautiful oec looks yellow I could have understood, if he has said ivory or vanilla. But YELLOW . There is ivory or vanilla shade, yes, but not yellow. Yes, I have old eyes, but not THAT old. And of course there is always possibility I'm wrong and now I needed Your help to identify real color. My 5-stone band is G color and there is difference in color, but not so obvious, it disturbs me.

Maybe I'm fool, but I want to defend my stone. Like a lioness

So my question; is this yellow? Or too yellow? Or what?

 

[Confection10]

A couple more

 

[VRBeauty]

"Too yellow" is a subjective judgement - like beauty, it's in the eye of the beholder. From what you've written, he said it was too yellow for him, or for what he was looking for. That could mean 1) he was trying to get your price down, or 2) he's very color-sensitive, and was looking for something in a higher color than your diamond.

I'm afraid I'm useless when it comes to "reading" the color of white diamonds, especially from photographs, so I won't venture a guess of where your diamond might land on the scale.

ETA it looks like a beautiful diamond!

 

[AGBF]

Well...what color is your diamond? But first, tell me about that gold! It is gorgeous!!! Is it Finnish gold? Were your rings made in Finland? They look really beautiful together. I just attached an old thread on Swedish gold to a current thread about pink and rose gold. Gold always catches my eye!

Deb/AGBF

 

[Niel]

People I find that are uneducated or unwilling to consider lower colored diamonds have two descriptive words, "white or yellow"

I hear people describe Ks as yellow.

I couldn't disagree more with that. At its best its very white and at worst its ivory. But people don't usually delve into nuanced color descriptions to describe diamonds. If it shows any tint people call it yellow.



Yours is not yellow.

 

[yssie]

It's a beautiful stone! And yes, it's yellower than higher-coloured stones! If he thought it was too yellow then it's just not the stone for him, and that's okay - no need to feel like you've got to defend your stone's honour, it doesn't care, promise

I personally wouldn't want a D/E/F because it'd be too white for me. Cue Kenny: people vary

 

[soxfan]

doesn't look yellow to me!

 

[junebug17]

Confection, going by the pics here and in your SMTB thread, I honestly don't think your stone looks yellow. Try not to let his comments bother you. Who knows, he might have just used the word "yellow" to mean not stark white. All that matters is that it is pleasing to your eye. Your diamond was just not the right one for this guy. I'm sure if you ever seriously try to sell your diamond you will find someone who loves it. I know I do!

 

[marymm]

Based on the pics you've posted, I would call your diamond yellow from the side and vanilla from the top - vanilla to me is a pale tint of yellow. While a gorgeous stone, for me it is too yellow - but for many, many others, it is just right or not yellow enough.

I am wondering if you are really ready to sell your OEC? From your post you seem enraptured by it and your defensiveness of it leads me to think it still has a lock on your heart.

 

[Confection10]

VRBeauty; You're right. It wasn't his stone. Just wonder if he knew it is top cape, L color,why bother even ask? Because it obviously wasn't what he was looking for. Secondly price for stone with higher color is 3xmy price here in Finland. All was front of him and he bother to ask anyway (I notice, I'm still lioness)

And I really love my stone. This was a test

 

[diamondenvy1]

Judging from the pics (so I view these with a grain of salt), the color is not yellow in the traditional sense. It's not pure D/E/F white but nowhere near yellow either. The setting is beautiful; it really complements your stone well. You ought to be proud!

 

[Confection10]

AGBF; my stone is EGL USA L and yes, finnish 18k gold. Made in Finland
I have always been YG girl, but sometimes I'm missing whiter metal. And always going back to YG...

 

[Confection10]

Niel; ditto. White or yellow, there it is. Just wonder how easy it is for those people. They don't see a little nuances, just white or yellow. I miss that time...it was so easy...

 

[msop04]

Judging by the photos, it doesn't look too yellow for me. However, some people like stark white stones. The stone is beautiful and, personally, I love a little warmth in old cuts! Your bezel setting pretty much hides any side view, so the warmth can only be seen when directly looking at the crown from the side. You can't really camouflage the tint much more than that (I've got a J MRB in a halo, so I'm lucky the sides aren't in full view for fear of the tint bothering me)...

Either:
A) he's been taught that anything below (insert acceptable color here) is yellow, so that's all he sees (and his assessment is partly psychological)
B) he thinks it's white enough, but worried about how it will be perceived by his GF or social circles there
C) he's trying to get you to lower the price
D) it's just too yellow for him (he's color sensitive)

Good luck!!

 

[AnnaH]

Beautiful and looks sufficiently white to me. Someone trying to make a deal may not be too complimentary.

 

[Confection10]

Soxfan; me neither. Vanilla at lowest and only on very cloudy, dull days.

 

[RockyRacoon]

This stone is too warm for me.

It's not a critique of a person - it's a personal preference about an inanimate object. I do see a yellow tint and would be bothered by this, if I had to look at it regularly, so I see where the possible buyer was coming from.

I prefer colors D/E/F, and sometimes G/H (depending upon the stone). I would never purchase a stone lower than H in color, as I've seen many of these stones and they just don't do it for me. Again, just personal preference.

Different strokes for different folks!

 

[Confection10]

Junebug17; I'll get over it only by looking my L. But I just want to share my xperience with all of you. As I told; just wonder what he expected of L color fairly priced diamond (here in Finland, where prices are much higher). To me it's perfect!

 

[soxfan]

VRBeauty; You're right. It wasn't his stone. Just wonder if he knew it is top cape, L color,why bother even ask? Because it obviously wasn't what he was looking for. Secondly price for stone with higher color is 3xmy price here in Finland. All was front of him and he bother to ask anyway (I notice, I'm still lioness)

And I really love my stone. This was a test

In the end, all that matters is that YOU love it. I have a K color "very good" cut stone. I had my choice of 2 RBC stones at my jewelers. Same size. I took them outside, looked at them under the flourescent jeweler lights, and went in the back and looked at them in the bench area. They looked identical to me except that ONE had more personality, and threw off more rainbow colors. I chose that one.

Imagine my surprise when I found out it was the K, VG cut that I preferred over the G EX cut! Price difference? $13,500. Score! I'll be damned if I will pay $13,500 more for something I can't see....

Now that I know my preferences, I will most likely not go higher than a K in color from here on out. If I were to choose an OEC or an AVR I would choose even LOWER colors.

People here have VERY particular requirements for stones. Some will NEVER go below an excellent cut, some will never go below an F for color. Others are not so picky. You will get all KINDS of responses on this here.

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what others think. If you love it, wear it. If you don't, sell it.

 

[GreenBling]

gorgeous!

Pre-PS I only had 2 words to describe diamond color: white and yellow. I think not many people know diamonds enough to appreciate them the way this community does. I wouldn't be bothered by the comment, the guy just happened to have limited diamond vocabulary.

 

[Laila619]

It's not yellow to me! Looks gorgeous!

 

[SB621]

I would personally call it gorgeous!!!!!!

 

[derbygal]

I think it is a lovely stone!

 

[Confection10]

Marymm; this was some kind of test. What people would think of something totally different vs. to regular diamonds; in size, color and cut. None of them who was interested in even asked about cut. Only color matters. Clarity was so-so. Maybe I could take this like education process; they haven't ever heard of oec's, omc's, antique cushion's or transitional diamonds. Only MBR in colorless grade. Now they know some more, although this type of diamond wasn't for them. And yes; this stone is important to me. And propably I'll never let her go

 

[Confection10]

Diamondenvy1; thanks

 

[Christina...]

Oh! I wanted to tell you that I think your diamond is gorgeous! I love how you've set it and how it's stacked with the other bands! Gorgeous!

As far as the yellow comment...I agree with Neil. There seem to be two descriptors for diamond color (excluding fancy colors) and they are WHTE or YELLOW. Even the trade seems to follow this. I've seen many many gemological evaluations from JA where the gemologist mentions that 'the stone faces up very white with only a slight tint of yellow from the side'. I'm paraphrasing of course, but it's always something to that affect. Nuances of color and body color are rarely discussed unless a person is particularly concened or interested it seems.

Your stone is lovely, please don't feel offended by one persons perception of color. As was mentioned, some prefer icy DEF stones and others prefer the soft warmth of lower colors, there is a perfect choice out there for everyone. I'd be very proud to wear yours!

 

[Confection10]

MSop04; wise words, thank You I have always wondered will bezel add warmness or will it hide it.

 

[Confection10]

AnnaH; thanks

 

[AGBF]

AGBF; my stone is EGL USA L and yes, finnish 18k gold. Made in Finland
I have always been YG girl, but sometimes I'm missing whiter metal. And always going back to YG...

That gold is spectacular. The alloy has to be different from other 18K gold alloys. It looks like higher karat gold. Forget the diamonds. Start selling some Finnish gold bands on Etsy. I would love to get my hands on some of that gorgeous Finnish gold!!! Your rings are spectacular because of that gold and their design!!! I can't take my eyes off them (and I like colorless diamonds).

Deb/AGBF

 

[Dreamer_D]

Sure, your diamond is yellow-ish. If "yellow" means "tinted" which is does to many people. So what?

"Too yellow" is a personal judgement. LIke "too tall" or "too blond" might also be personal esthetic judgements. He is not wrong and you are not wrong, because there is no right and wrong when it comes to beauty.

I am curious if these potential buyers knew the lab report color grade and overlooked it or perhaps just didn't understand what it meant?