Diamonds make me happy!
Rough_Rock
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I think that, to some people, the rings are just material things, and that what's important (their relationships) isn't affected by the size or quality of the stones on their fingers. To you and to me, this isn't the case since we are attached to the rings themselves too, but to some people, they don't attach the same sentimental value to the items themselves, just to the people to whom those items represent to us. And if that works for them, then I see absolutely nothing wrong with it.Date: 8/14/2007 4:22:26 PM
Author: Mr. Eric
I still don't see the comparison between cars, tv's shoes, etc. to an ering. A car or tv has no meaning at all. It's like comparing apples to oranges in my opinion. That is somewhat my point. I think people are losing site on what marrage/rings mean. Of course the fact that the divorce rate is over 50% maybe an indication that people care more about huge diamonds than the actual marriage.
Date: 8/14/2007 4:13:06 PM
Author: Diamonds make me happy!
I can't help but notice it's the men that have a problem with this. I see nothing wrong with upgrading & I have friends that have upgraded or are about to upgrade their diamond. It's not unheard of outside Pricescope. Some people aren't in the position early on to afford what they know their partner would really like. So, whats the problem with upgrading once your financially able to? If I win the lottery tomorrow I can promise I will not still be wearing my 1 ct. ring on my finger. It will be a 3 ct. honker of a ring. I also know that my husband would trade in his modest toyota for a Ferrari! Diamonds are whats important to me & cars are whats important to him but we both know we love each other & thats whats important.
For most people, me included, my ring has nothing to do with wealth and status. It's an aesthetic....nothing more. Some people prefer the look of dainty diamonds, others like medium-sized gems, and still others prefer the look of larger diamonds. Most of the time, I think it's Other People (society in general) that attach connotations such as wealth and status to the size of a diamond.Different strokes for different folks, I guess. Still, I find it troubling how so many people seem to be more concerned about how well their rings reflect their wealth and status. Shouldn't it more importantly be a symbol of the persistence of the relationship?
*I* compared it to HOUSES. You think your first HOME won't be a big deal? Full of heart & soul & memories etc ... but you don't live there forever. At least most people these days don't.Date: 8/14/2007 4:22:26 PM
Author: Mr. Eric
I still don't see the comparison between cars, tv's shoes, etc. to an ering. A car or tv has no meaning at all.
Yes. You're so onto us. We ladies are only in it for the jewelry.I think people are losing site on what marrage/rings mean. Of course the fact that the divorce rate is over 50% maybe an indication that people care more about huge diamonds than the actual marriage.
Date: 8/14/2007 4:22:26 PM
Author: Mr. Eric
I still don''t see the comparison between cars, tv''s shoes, etc. to an ering. A car or tv has no meaning at all. It''s like comparing apples to oranges in my opinion. That is somewhat my point. I think people are losing site on what marrage/rings mean. Of course the fact that the divorce rate is over 50% maybe an indication that people care more about huge diamonds than the actual marriage.
I see where you are coming from. BUT you are already putting more time and effort into this than most men did 30 or 15 years ago. The people you see with upgrades are from a time when people didn''t put as much thought into the diamond and setting BEFORE buying it as they do now.Date: 8/14/2007 11:56:58 AM
Author: mrdisco99
Maybe I''m the minority, but I kinda agree with the original post. I put a lot of time and energy into picking out something for my fiancee that will be forever... something that looks beautiful and timeless, reflects both our styles, and that decades from now we will still look at fondly and be reminded of how things were when we started... and maybe even pass down to our grandchildren.
To me, diamonds are the ultimate physical symbol of timelessness. They''re all millions of years old and are the most durable things on earth, so they''ll be around for millions more. That''s why diamonds are such a great symbol for lasting love. I''m giving her a diamond not just because it''s pretty, but because it''s a symbol of our love and it''s supposed to be forever.
Getting it upgraded or replaced a few years later just seems pointless. Why go through all the trouble (and money!) of getting a diamond if she''s expected to get tired of it and want a bigger one in 10 years?
Heck, I know a girl who''s only had her ring a few months and is already looking for an upgrade. All that says to me is that she thinks the guy screwed up the first time.
I''m not saying my wife-to-be shouldn''t have more later when we''re better off and can look back on years of happy marriage. I''d be happy to get her something to celebrate that... but it should be something new. To me the original engagement ring has meaning and should stay.
Let me end my rant by saying I realize a lot of you see things differently. It''s your relationship and your jewelry and I''m not judging. I''m just saying what feels right for mine.
Oh yeah. I forgot that my MIL got a new setting maybe 18 years ago for this reason. We took her old setting and had it melted down with other family rings and it''s in our wedding rings. See an "upgrade" can be very meaningful.Date: 8/14/2007 4:24:01 PM
Author: Mr. Eric
Startdust you have a valid reason for an upgrade. I think the fact that your ring is about to fall apart is a good reason to get a new setting!![]()
If you had read the replies properly you would see that the majority of upgraders here are people who have been happily married for 25+ years and are celebrating by buying new jewellery!Date: 8/14/2007 4:22:26 PM
Author: Mr. Eric
I still don''t see the comparison between cars, tv''s shoes, etc. to an ering. A car or tv has no meaning at all. It''s like comparing apples to oranges in my opinion. That is somewhat my point. I think people are losing site on what marrage/rings mean. Of course the fact that the divorce rate is over 50% maybe an indication that people care more about huge diamonds than the actual marriage.
I hope you don''t mean my post!? I bolded the part about you putting more effort into this ''cause i think you ARE putting alot of effort into this. And I think that''s a GOOD thing. You are thinking ahead!!Date: 8/14/2007 4:45:32 PM
Author: Mr. Eric
I don'' t ever remember attacking anyone on this site.?
I think it also depends which end of the relationship you''re viewing this issue from. We''re 25 years down the road. So much has changed in our lives. Our outlooks have changed. Our relationship itself has changed and evolved in a good way. Plus, although we don''t know it at the time, sometimes we make poor choices in our original e-ring purchase. I found that my e-ring (.25ct) was set so high I couldn''t wear it around the house much. When we had kids, it was out of the question. One scratched cheek, and that was it. So at 5 years, we had it reset into a more child/house-friendly setting which I wore for the next 10 years straight. By then it was a soldered together 3 ring set, but it was too small, and I couldn''t have it resized again or else I''d have to just get new shanks put on. So we bought a bezel set 5 stone anniversary ring (1 stone for every 3 years) that could withstand anything inside or outside the home and never leaves my finger.Date: 8/14/2007 4:43:34 PM
Author: mrdisco99
I wouldn''t go so far as to say that upgraders have less value attached to their marriage. I just think that some of us attach a different meaning to our rings. Some people don''t see their rings as a reflection of their relationship, but rather just a sign to show the world they''re married. The fact that it''s made of pretty diamonds is a bonus. Whereas some of us attach more of a symbolic meaning to it and are more sentimental.
Doesn''t make either of us right or wrong or more or less respectful of our marriage. We just see things differently.
Well said Deco!!! I''ve been happily married for 30 years and I hardly think my making modest upgrades to the size of my diamond or the setting of my ring really dimishes the value of my relationship with my husband. All I can say Mr. Eric is that you are young and in my opinion you seem to be placing way too much emphasis on what is only a piece of jewelry when all is said and done.Date: 8/14/2007 4:40:41 PM
Author: decodelighted
*I* compared it to HOUSES. You think your first HOME won''t be a big deal? Full of heart & soul & memories etc ... but you don''t live there forever. At least most people these days don''t.Date: 8/14/2007 4:22:26 PM
Author: Mr. Eric
I still don''t see the comparison between cars, tv''s shoes, etc. to an ering. A car or tv has no meaning at all.
Yes. You''re so onto us. We ladies are only in it for the jewelry.I think people are losing site on what marrage/rings mean. Of course the fact that the divorce rate is over 50% maybe an indication that people care more about huge diamonds than the actual marriage.Maybe if you''d try *absorbing* what the ladies HERE are saying you''d realize its the MARRIAGES they''re happy with (some for 30+ years)! They''ve been together so long STYLES HAVE CHANGED or their RINGS HAVE WORN OUT. You should HOPE for such good fortune rather than whine & stress about how what you''re choosing now might be out of date in several DECADES.![]()
Oh, and Tacori ... quality. control. problems. (Search bar + ''Tacori'' for all the details) And did you know Tacori is now doing a shopping channel ''fashion line''? Goes to show you -- things change. Rings are just symbols. It''s the love/committment/thought that counts.
This is such a good point!Date: 8/14/2007 4:54:04 PM
Author: MoonWater
There is no reason to question why you put the effort into searching for the perfect ring for your gal. I think guys should always put a lot of effort into buying gifts, it''s just a nice thing to do dammit! That is not time, money, or effort wasted. The ring will always have its sentimental value and no one can ever take that away (even if the ring is stuck in a dark box somewhere)![]()
It''s funny, I am totally the type to save every note that my bf writes to me. I save ticket stubs to things like Spiderman for crying outloud (okay I started throwing that type of stuff out, but our first movie ticket, still have it!). So i completely understand the sentimental side of this argument. I just don''t understand why one would think the sentiment is gone simply because the piece is no longer worn or not worn as often (since some women still pull out their old jewelry). Heck my bf''s mom just pulled out an old niiiice ring she hated when she was younger (gorgeous, but was old fashion to her, it''s vintage now haha) and when I noticed her new bling, I asked about her wedding band and found out IT''S NOT HER ORIGINAL BAND!! The original was just a plain gold band that she simply doesn''t wear anymore. They just celebrated 40 years together!!!! Obviously the jewelry is not the most important thing.Date: 8/14/2007 5:07:38 PM
Author: KristyDarling
This is such a good point!Date: 8/14/2007 4:54:04 PM
Author: MoonWater
There is no reason to question why you put the effort into searching for the perfect ring for your gal. I think guys should always put a lot of effort into buying gifts, it''s just a nice thing to do dammit! That is not time, money, or effort wasted. The ring will always have its sentimental value and no one can ever take that away (even if the ring is stuck in a dark box somewhere)![]()
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I seriously doubt most, if any of us are after that with our upgrades. We simply want a bigger/better stone/setting.Date: 8/14/2007 4:34:38 PM
Author: mrdisco99
It's not just us guys. My fiancee along with some of the ladies in this thread feel the same way about it.
I see a big difference between upgrading a car and upgrading an engagement ring. To us the ring is a symbol, and has value beyond carats. It's a reminder of our promise.
Different strokes for different folks, I guess. Still, I have trouble understanding how so many people seem to be more concerned about how well their rings reflect their wealth and status rather than the persistence of the relationship. To me the latter seems more important. Some people just don't see it that way, though.
Granted, there are SO many other variables that should be included in that poll....but I thought it was interesting nonetheless.Among the most telling questions Would you ever consider trading in your engagement ring for a bigger, better diamond? In a 1988 poll of 200 new brides by Diamond Cutters International, 46% said yes and 54% said no.
Now, 15 years later, these women have been polled again. Of those who in 1988 were willing to trade up their diamonds, 81% are now divorced. Of the sentimental types who said they'd never trade their rings, 78% remain married today. The results suggest that people who are "hard-wired" to upgrade rings also may be driven to upgrade cars, houses and eventually, spouses, says psychiatrist Francisco Montalvo, who monitored the study.
Thanks for reminding me about that.Date: 8/14/2007 4:53:31 PM
Author: Eva17
Slipping on that ring, it is a distant memory. A good one, but still a distant one!