Why cut asschers with small corners and windmills?

[strmrdr]

Date: 2/10/2008 3:55:50 PM
Author: DiaGem
Looking good...

What are the Pav angles? they dont seem to have to much contrast/range between them?

50 45 37
This is one of my early designs and I could do better today.
When the new design tool comes out in the new DC im going too redo it and fix the uneven crown steps.

 

[diagem]

Date: 2/10/2008 3:51:04 PM
Author: strmrdr
someday I want too have this puppy cut maybe if I ever win the lottery lol

Its a bit on the extreme!!!

To much leakage in your face..., a problem with movements!!!

See red circles....

 

[diagem]

Date: 2/10/2008 4:03:02 PM
Author: DiaGem

Date: 2/10/2008 3:51:04 PM
Author: strmrdr
someday I want too have this puppy cut maybe if I ever win the lottery lol

Its a bit on the extreme!!!

To much leakage in your face..., a problem with movements!!!

See red circles....

Lets try to solve it by going:

pav1 45, pav2 38, pav3 30/29....

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 2/10/2008 4:07:46 PM
Author: DiaGem
Lets try to solve it by going:

pav1 45, pav2 38, pav3 30/29....

anything under 34 p3 doesn''t return light and it becomes a pit.
Part of the large arrow problem is the DC crown step limitation.
Too be honest I like em because otherwise it would be low on contrast.
Once I get the youtube video figured out I will put up a DC movie of this puppy moving.
5 degree tilt back and forth and it dances more than most stones at 20 degrees.

 

[diagem]

Date: 2/10/2008 4:18:37 PM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 2/10/2008 4:07:46 PM
Author: DiaGem
Lets try to solve it by going:

pav1 45, pav2 38, pav3 30/29....

anything under 34 p3 doesn''t return light and it becomes a pit.
Part of the large arrow problem is the DC crown step limitation.
Too be honest I like em because otherwise it would be low on contrast.
Once I get the youtube video figured out I will put up a DC movie of this puppy moving.
5 degree tilt back and forth and it dances more than most stones at 20 degrees.

Maybe on the virtual model..., but in reality it is NOT the case!!!

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 2/10/2008 4:21:54 PM
Author: DiaGem

Date: 2/10/2008 4:18:37 PM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 2/10/2008 4:07:46 PM
Author: DiaGem
Lets try to solve it by going:

pav1 45, pav2 38, pav3 30/29....

anything under 34 p3 doesn''t return light and it becomes a pit.
Part of the large arrow problem is the DC crown step limitation.
Too be honest I like em because otherwise it would be low on contrast.
Once I get the youtube video figured out I will put up a DC movie of this puppy moving.
5 degree tilt back and forth and it dances more than most stones at 20 degrees.

Maybe on the virtual model..., but in reality it is NOT the case!!!

change the crown angles and that would change on the virtual model.
I could make it work with lower angles, keep in mind I designed and matched it for this combo.
Somewhere around a 100-150 hours worth of work to make it work.

 

[diagem]

Date: 2/10/2008 4:30:23 PM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 2/10/2008 4:21:54 PM
Author: DiaGem

Date: 2/10/2008 4:18:37 PM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 2/10/2008 4:07:46 PM
Author: DiaGem
Lets try to solve it by going:

pav1 45, pav2 38, pav3 30/29....

anything under 34 p3 doesn't return light and it becomes a pit.
Part of the large arrow problem is the DC crown step limitation.
Too be honest I like em because otherwise it would be low on contrast.
Once I get the youtube video figured out I will put up a DC movie of this puppy moving.
5 degree tilt back and forth and it dances more than most stones at 20 degrees.

Maybe on the virtual model..., but in reality it is NOT the case!!!

change the crown angles and that would change on the virtual model.
I could make it work with lower angles, keep in mind I designed and matched it for this combo.
Somewhere around a 100-150 hours worth of work to make it work.

You want to tell me you can play around with the lower pav angles?
Try the pav numbers I mentioned..., it should take care of the pointed arrows you see through the face up view...

You might be surprised at the outcome...

I cut many step-cuts with Pav3 (or culet break) at 30 degrees or less!!! I never get a pit! (It is close for comfort sometimes...)

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 2/10/2008 4:51:54 PM
Author: DiaGem
You want to tell me you can play around with the lower pav angles?
Try the pav numbers I mentioned..., it should take care of the pointed arrows you see through the face up view...

You might be surprised at the outcome...

I cut many step-cuts with Pav3 (or culet break) at 30 degrees or less!!! I never get a pit! (It is close for comfort sometimes...)

What I was saying is that the crown on that design is designed too work with the selected pavilion angles.
I could change the crown angles too work with a different set of pavilion angles in a new design.
My power is flickering again so im off the puter for a while.

 

[diagem]

Date: 2/10/2008 4:56:23 PM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 2/10/2008 4:51:54 PM
Author: DiaGem
You want to tell me you can play around with the lower pav angles?
Try the pav numbers I mentioned..., it should take care of the pointed arrows you see through the face up view...

You might be surprised at the outcome...

I cut many step-cuts with Pav3 (or culet break) at 30 degrees or less!!! I never get a pit! (It is close for comfort sometimes...)

What I was saying is that the crown on that design is designed too work with the selected pavilion angles.
I could change the crown angles too work with a different set of pavilion angles in a new design.
My power is flickering again so im off the puter for a while.

Dont!!! Try changing the the pav angles only..., make them shallower an see how it turns out...

We shall continue tomorrow,

 

[Garry H (Cut Nut)]

Storm send me a full .dmc, or better still design it in the new version of DiamCalc3 cut designer so I have full control of each angle and i will do some DC3Pro optimization for you (like what AGS do, but on steroids)

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 2/10/2008 5:41:15 PM
Author: Garry H (Cut Nut)
Storm send me a full .dmc, or better still design it in the new version of DiamCalc3 cut designer so I have full control of each angle and i will do some DC3Pro optimization for you (like what AGS do, but on steroids)

check your gmail account.

 

[diagem]

Date: 2/10/2008 5:00:55 PM
Author: DiaGem

Date: 2/10/2008 4:56:23 PM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 2/10/2008 4:51:54 PM
Author: DiaGem
You want to tell me you can play around with the lower pav angles?
Try the pav numbers I mentioned..., it should take care of the pointed arrows you see through the face up view...

You might be surprised at the outcome...

I cut many step-cuts with Pav3 (or culet break) at 30 degrees or less!!! I never get a pit! (It is close for comfort sometimes...)

What I was saying is that the crown on that design is designed too work with the selected pavilion angles.
I could change the crown angles too work with a different set of pavilion angles in a new design.
My power is flickering again so im off the puter for a while.

Dont!!! Try changing the the pav angles only..., make them shallower an see how it turns out...

We shall continue tomorrow,

Storm..., did you get the chance to try it out?

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 2/11/2008 4:42:36 PM
Author: DiaGem

Date: 2/10/2008 5:00:55 PM
Author: DiaGem

Date: 2/10/2008 4:56:23 PM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 2/10/2008 4:51:54 PM
Author: DiaGem
You want to tell me you can play around with the lower pav angles?
Try the pav numbers I mentioned..., it should take care of the pointed arrows you see through the face up view...

You might be surprised at the outcome...

I cut many step-cuts with Pav3 (or culet break) at 30 degrees or less!!! I never get a pit! (It is close for comfort sometimes...)

What I was saying is that the crown on that design is designed too work with the selected pavilion angles.
I could change the crown angles too work with a different set of pavilion angles in a new design.
My power is flickering again so im off the puter for a while.

Dont!!! Try changing the the pav angles only..., make them shallower an see how it turns out...

We shall continue tomorrow,

Storm..., did you get the chance to try it out?

A little but not enough, I got playing with the cut designer instead.

 

[strmrdr]

45/38/30

 

[strmrdr]

45/38/34
It filled in the arrows some but the overall brightness is down.

 

[strmrdr]

45/37/34
This is one I like second best too my orginal design, I think its lacking in contrast but it did fill in the arrows.
depth is down too 71.1 wow.

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 2/11/2008 4:57:52 PM
Author: strmrdr
45/37/34
This is one I like second best too my orginal design, I think its lacking in contrast but it did fill in the arrows.
depth is down too 71.1 wow.

wow check out the brightness this would be one of the brightest asschers iv seen these stats for face up.

 

[diagem]

Date: 2/11/2008 4:57:52 PM
Author: strmrdr
45/37/34
This is one I like second best too my orginal design, I think its lacking in contrast but it did fill in the arrows.
depth is down too 71.1 wow.

It looks good..., the problem will surface when tilting...,

How about making the crown steps a bit thinner at the same time enlarging the table to around 40+/-?

 

[strmrdr]

This one isnt in your face enough...
c
52.27
36.55
25

p
46
37
34

40% table

70.4% depth
26.4% CH

 

[diagem]

Date: 2/11/2008 4:57:52 PM
Author: strmrdr
45/37/34
This is one I like second best too my orginal design, I think its lacking in contrast but it did fill in the arrows.
depth is down too 71.1 wow.

What are the CA''s on this modified monster?

 

[diagem]

Date: 2/11/2008 5:19:21 PM
Author: strmrdr
This one isnt in your face enough...
c
52.27 change it to 46-47 deg.
36.55
25

p
46
37
34

40% table go a bit smaller...

70.4% depth
26.4% CH

Let me see a tilt position....

 

[strmrdr]

That''s the problem with asschers you can optimise the life right out of them....

 

[diagem]

Date: 2/11/2008 5:24:59 PM
Author: strmrdr
That''s the problem with asschers you can optimise the life right out of them....

Yep..., now we have to apply it to the real material....

 

[strmrdr]

c
47
36.55
25

p
46
37
34
ch 24.3
td: 70.3
t 40%

But I had too make p3 a lot smaller to pull this one off.

edit: Id buy this stone in a heartbeat yummy!

 

[strmrdr]

as seen here...
The C1 being slightly larger I cant fix without the cut designer and I havent figured it out yet.

 

[strmrdr]

15 degree down tilt

 

[diagem]

Date: 2/11/2008 5:33:04 PM
Author: strmrdr
c
47
36.55
25

p
46
37
34
ch 24.3
td: 70.3
Table: ?

But I had too make p3 a lot smaller to pull this one off.

edit: Id buy this stone in a heartbeat yummy!

 

[diagem]

Date: 2/11/2008 5:39:39 PM
Author: strmrdr
15 degree down tilt

WOW..., surprisingly good!!!

 

[diagem]

Table size?
And a profile rendering...

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 2/11/2008 5:43:38 PM
Author: DiaGem
Table size?
And a profile rendering...

40% im allready off on the next design hehehehehe