shape
carat
color
clarity

Why cut asschers with small corners and windmills?

Status
Not open for further replies. Please create a new topic or request for this thread to be opened.

diagem

Ideal_Rock
Trade
Joined
Oct 21, 2004
Messages
5,096
Date: 2/25/2008 3:18:50 PM
Author: strmrdr


Date: 2/25/2008 3:14:05 PM
Author: DiaGem
I was talikng about standard mass production..., and of larger sizes (one carats)...
Based on my experience..., the smaller you go..., the more distinguished you want the stones to look when they are set in a line!

But all these factors must be falling into economic sense! Dont forget..., the smaller the fancy shape..., the more significant the labor cost is as a part of the whole Diamond cost! (do you understand me?)
6.gif
gotcha :}
labor is why I went with a 3/2, I could make it slightly better by going 3/3.
Im going too try a 2/2 also :}
Show me a line with bigger corner breaks...
 

Serg

Ideal_Rock
Trade
Joined
Mar 21, 2002
Messages
2,626
Date: 2/25/2008 2:28:46 PM
Author: strmrdr
yep its a 3/2

44% table
19.4 CH
75.2 TD
c: (needs a little work yet)
42
38
25

p:
51.5
39.8
Strmdr,
Do not use two pavilion step . Should be at least 3 steps
I will show tomorrow why. have not time now.
BTW please check DEATS window in DC3.0.
It could work even for old video cards
 

strmrdr

Super_Ideal_Rock
Joined
Nov 1, 2003
Messages
23,295
24

tinymonsterBCLine.jpg
 

strmrdr

Super_Ideal_Rock
Joined
Nov 1, 2003
Messages
23,295
Date: 2/25/2008 3:29:48 PM
Author: Serg
Strmdr,
Do not use two pavilion step . Should be at least 3 steps
I will show tomorrow why. have not time now.
BTW please check DEATS window in DC3.0.
It could work even for old video cards
Not finding DEATS anywhere I can get too.
here is the gem file.
 

Attachments

  • tinymonster.gem
    1.5 KB · Views: 87

strmrdr

Super_Ideal_Rock
Joined
Nov 1, 2003
Messages
23,295
gem file for a simular 3/3

Both of these need some work on the crown otherwise the table will come out about 40 when cut.
Im out till later tonight starting in 5 min.
 

Attachments

  • tinymonster3-3.gem
    1.5 KB · Views: 77

strmrdr

Super_Ideal_Rock
Joined
Nov 1, 2003
Messages
23,295
Date: 2/25/2008 4:24:48 PM
Author: DiaGem

Date: 2/25/2008 4:22:28 PM
Author: DiaGem


Date: 2/25/2008 4:08:13 PM
Author: strmrdr
24
See the difference?

tinymonsterLine.jpg
tinymonsterBCLine.jpg
I like the 24 much better.
Im delaying work on this till I hear back from Serg on 3/2 vs 3/3.
Then will work on a 24 optimised model and fix the crown.
 

diagem

Ideal_Rock
Trade
Joined
Oct 21, 2004
Messages
5,096
Date: 2/25/2008 3:29:48 PM
Author: Serg

Date: 2/25/2008 2:28:46 PM
Author: strmrdr
yep its a 3/2

44% table
19.4 CH
75.2 TD
c: (needs a little work yet)
42
38
25

p:
51.5
39.8
Strmdr,
Do not use two pavilion step . Should be at least 3 steps
I will show tomorrow why. have not time now.
BTW please check DEATS window in DC3.0.
It could work even for old video cards
Serg is 100% right! You may incorporate 2 pav. steps on really tiny ones like 1-1.5mm. diameter, but larger than that it will not work!
 

strmrdr

Super_Ideal_Rock
Joined
Nov 1, 2003
Messages
23,295
Date: 2/25/2008 4:35:58 PM
Author: DiaGem
Serg is 100% right! You may incorporate 2 pav. steps on really tiny ones like 1-1.5mm. diameter, but larger than that it will not work!
ok, how about 2 crown on a ~3mm too 4mm range,,,,
Or is the labor savings not worth it?
 

diagem

Ideal_Rock
Trade
Joined
Oct 21, 2004
Messages
5,096
Date: 2/25/2008 4:40:46 PM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 2/25/2008 4:35:58 PM
Author: DiaGem
Serg is 100% right! You may incorporate 2 pav. steps on really tiny ones like 1-1.5mm. diameter, but larger than that it will not work!
ok, how about 2 crown on a ~3mm too 4mm range,,,,
Or is the labor savings not worth it?
Not on such a small table...., larger table 55%+ will work.
 

strmrdr

Super_Ideal_Rock
Joined
Nov 1, 2003
Messages
23,295
Date: 2/25/2008 4:55:36 PM
Author: DiaGem
Not on such a small table...., larger table 55%+ will work.
kewl I have a design about ready that works from 3mm too 10mm+
My client canceled till tomorrow so have been working on it.
 

strmrdr

Super_Ideal_Rock
Joined
Nov 1, 2003
Messages
23,295
D: 71.3
T: 40
ch: 20.3
c:
42.7
36
24

p:
52
42
34.5

p1 p2 are equal with p3 at 60% of p2

24 corners

tinymonster3-3alpha3.jpg
 

strmrdr

Super_Ideal_Rock
Joined
Nov 1, 2003
Messages
23,295
4mm calibrated weight is ~.34 ct
.25ct is 3.59mm
wire from the side:

tinymonster3-3alpha3wire.jpg
 

Serg

Ideal_Rock
Trade
Joined
Mar 21, 2002
Messages
2,626
Date: 2/25/2008 3:29:48 PM
Author: Serg

Date: 2/25/2008 2:28:46 PM
Author: strmrdr
yep its a 3/2

44% table
19.4 CH
75.2 TD
c: (needs a little work yet)
42
38
25

p:
51.5
39.8
Strmdr,
Do not use two pavilion step . Should be at least 3 steps
I will show tomorrow why. have not time now.
BTW please check DEATS window in DC3.0.
It could work even for old video cards

DETASRoundAND3Asschers_SMALL.GIF
 

strmrdr

Super_Ideal_Rock
Joined
Nov 1, 2003
Messages
23,295
looks like it takes a large hit in flash density?
With a smaller hit in flash intensity?
 

whatmeworry

Brilliant_Rock
Joined
May 23, 2006
Messages
1,095
Serg,
I still don''t understand dynamic ETAS. Why the different colors?
 

Serg

Ideal_Rock
Trade
Joined
Mar 21, 2002
Messages
2,626

Detas shows tracks co-virtual facets during tilt diamond.



If you see a lot long tracks what cover most important part Light space , Diamond has good “Life” (Scintillation is part of “Life’)
big black zone without any track and with blue tracks only is “BLIND DIAMOND ZONE”
Diamond does not see( catch) any light from such BLIND zones even during tilt


Green color track means what angular track size equal to the angle of tilt

More color means what angular track size is bigger than the angle of tilt
Blue color means what angular track size is too small


Diamond can has good LR in ASET or even good “ASET SCINTILLATION”, but very bad real Scintillation

LIFE and DEAD diamonds both can have very good ASET image, because
ASET( or IS, FS,..) do not show “BLIND ZONE PHENOMENA”
 

strmrdr

Super_Ideal_Rock
Joined
Nov 1, 2003
Messages
23,295
DiaGem,
For custom too semi-custom melee asschers would they normally be ordered by weight or calibrated size?
 

diagem

Ideal_Rock
Trade
Joined
Oct 21, 2004
Messages
5,096
Date: 2/26/2008 11:48:21 AM
Author: strmrdr
DiaGem,
For custom too semi-custom melee asschers would they normally be ordered by weight or calibrated size?
Storm..., usually custom means ordered based on precise info.

If ordered based on weight..., the mm. sizes will be based on a range of the assortment (example: 1/4 carats = 3.7-3.4mm range.)
 

Skippy123

Super_Ideal_Rock
Joined
Nov 24, 2006
Messages
24,300
Wow, that stone is amazing Storm and DG!!!! I love it and the pattern
3.gif
3.gif
3.gif
 

strmrdr

Super_Ideal_Rock
Joined
Nov 1, 2003
Messages
23,295
skip skip skippy is back!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Status
Not open for further replies. Please create a new topic or request for this thread to be opened.
Be a part of the community Get 3 HCA Results
Top