Why all the negativity??

[RedRobbin]

I saw that thread before it was deleted. Stone Cold didn't have to offer his opinion on the OP's stone, as OP was just sharing his excitement about finding a stone and setting. However, I didn't see any problem with Stone Cold's post. Plus, he wasn't rude about it but just noted that the numbers didn't do so well on HCA and asked if OP visually inspected the stone in other lighting. When the OP said he was happy with the stone, Stone Cold backed off. The vendor was entitled to state his opinion but frankly, I thought his tone was off-putting and overly aggressive towards Stone Cold, given that Stone Cold has no interest whatsoever in OP's purchase and was just trying to be helpful. I didn't think there was a threat to the vendor to "get in line or get out" but a polite referral to an article that provided good advice to vendors posting here. Some people like to buy diamonds with their eyes. Some rely on numbers. I felt bad that the thread veered from the OP's original intent but I don't think anyone piled onto the vendor. If anything, people piled onto Stone Cold.

Thank you for sharing your view without attacking me. I saw it differently than you but I respect your opinion on it. In any case, the thread is gone now, and I suspect so is the vendor. I hope I am wrong and that he will come back because I appreciate different viewpoints. Thank you again for a totally chill response. I thought I was going to be attacked too. And I am thankful that I wasn't. Thanks!

 

[RedRobbin]

I saw that thread before it was deleted. Stone Cold didn't have to offer his opinion on the OP's stone, as OP was just sharing his excitement about finding a stone and setting. However, I didn't see any problem with Stone Cold's post. Plus, he wasn't rude about it but just noted that the numbers didn't do so well on HCA and asked if OP visually inspected the stone in other lighting. When the OP said he was happy with the stone, Stone Cold backed off. The vendor was entitled to state his opinion but frankly, I thought his tone was off-putting and overly aggressive towards Stone Cold, given that Stone Cold has no interest whatsoever in OP's purchase and was just trying to be helpful. I didn't think there was a threat to the vendor to "get in line or get out" but a polite referral to an article that provided good advice to vendors posting here. Some people like to buy diamonds with their eyes. Some rely on numbers. I felt bad that the thread veered from the OP's original intent but I don't think anyone piled onto the vendor. If anything, people piled onto Stone Cold.

I agree. I saw the thread. Red Robbin, you might want to read the forum policies here: https://www.pricescope.com/content/forum-policies. It's very important that vendors do not get personally involved in discussions here unless it is somehow directed specifically at said vendor. That's how the board is kept as unbiased as possible. Also, it is tradional that topics posted in Rocky Talky are up for criticism and further discussion. Show Me the Bling is specifically for showing what has already been purchased, so everyone knows not to offer a criticism there unless asked.

Thank you for the link. I will check it out. The only thing I take issue with in your post is your suggestion that the forum is kept unbiased. I think it is very biased in favor of hearts and arrows cut style even though that isn't the only way to get a beautiful diamond. Not everyone likes the bold arrows that you are supposed to prefer. Some do but some don't. Some people like Round brilliants with larger tables. Some people like radiants with less bold facets. (That discussion is also taking place on RT). I also think there is a bias against GIA as a certification house even though they are very well respected. Just not here for some reason that makes no sense to me. Anyway, thank you for your nice reply. I will take a look at the link.

 

[panda08]

I saw that thread before it was deleted. Stone Cold didn't have to offer his opinion on the OP's stone, as OP was just sharing his excitement about finding a stone and setting. However, I didn't see any problem with Stone Cold's post. Plus, he wasn't rude about it but just noted that the numbers didn't do so well on HCA and asked if OP visually inspected the stone in other lighting. When the OP said he was happy with the stone, Stone Cold backed off. The vendor was entitled to state his opinion but frankly, I thought his tone was off-putting and overly aggressive towards Stone Cold, given that Stone Cold has no interest whatsoever in OP's purchase and was just trying to be helpful. I didn't think there was a threat to the vendor to "get in line or get out" but a polite referral to an article that provided good advice to vendors posting here. Some people like to buy diamonds with their eyes. Some rely on numbers. I felt bad that the thread veered from the OP's original intent but I don't think anyone piled onto the vendor. If anything, people piled onto Stone Cold.

Thank you for sharing your view without attacking me. I saw it differently than you but I respect your opinion on it. In any case, the thread is gone now, and I suspect so is the vendor. I hope I am wrong and that he will come back because I appreciate different viewpoints. Thank you again for a totally chill response. I thought I was going to be attacked too.

LOL! You're welcome! I hope you don't think that attacking is the norm here. We can have different opinions but can politely share them

 

[Cehrabehra]

I will say one thing, I've never had such exquisitely polite concern expressed for my backside whilst having the door pointed out to me.

I don't think anyone wants you to leave, quite the contrary in fact... but there is something to be said for taking the responsibility to help create what you seek here. I could do the same... I typically come here with my most superficial stuff (seems apropos) and leave all of the chunky thought provoking stuff on other door stops. Ack, sounds like cat puke.

 

[RedRobbin]

I saw that thread before it was deleted. Stone Cold didn't have to offer his opinion on the OP's stone, as OP was just sharing his excitement about finding a stone and setting. However, I didn't see any problem with Stone Cold's post. Plus, he wasn't rude about it but just noted that the numbers didn't do so well on HCA and asked if OP visually inspected the stone in other lighting. When the OP said he was happy with the stone, Stone Cold backed off. The vendor was entitled to state his opinion but frankly, I thought his tone was off-putting and overly aggressive towards Stone Cold, given that Stone Cold has no interest whatsoever in OP's purchase and was just trying to be helpful. I didn't think there was a threat to the vendor to "get in line or get out" but a polite referral to an article that provided good advice to vendors posting here. Some people like to buy diamonds with their eyes. Some rely on numbers. I felt bad that the thread veered from the OP's original intent but I don't think anyone piled onto the vendor. If anything, people piled onto Stone Cold.

Thank you for sharing your view without attacking me. I saw it differently than you but I respect your opinion on it. In any case, the thread is gone now, and I suspect so is the vendor. I hope I am wrong and that he will come back because I appreciate different viewpoints. Thank you again for a totally chill response. I thought I was going to be attacked too.

LOL! You're welcome! I hope you don't think that attacking is the norm here. We can have different opinions but can politely share them

I'd like to see more of your way of thinking on RT!

 

[lyra]

Thank you for the link. I will check it out. The only thing I take issue with in your post is your suggestion that the forum is kept unbiased. I think it is very biased in favor of hearts and arrows cut style even though that isn't the only way to get a beautiful diamond. Not everyone likes the bold arrows that you are supposed to prefer. Some do but some don't. Some people like Round brilliants with larger tables. Some people like radiants with less bold facets. (That discussion is also taking place on RT). I also think there is a bias against GIA as a certification house even though they are very well respected. Just not here for some reason that makes no sense to me. Anyway, thank you for your nice reply. I will take a look at the link.

I think you'll find that PS'ers like a wide variety of cuts actually. I think it's fair to say that hearts and arrows is the most popular, but it is definitely not the only choice or perfect choice for everyone. Some prefer antique cuts, low colour, it just depends. A good number of people here don't even prefer diamonds, but instead choose coloured stones. To each his own. Some of us are even brave enough to trust our own eyes (and maybe our appraiser's) and go with an uncerted stone.

 

[Cehrabehra]

I haven't noticed any negativity or drama to speak of but then again I've had the flu for two days so I've been kind of out of it.

I'm sorry you had the 'flu, Danny. I am so grateful you said what you did about the negativity. It was like the child saying that the emperor had no clothes (in the story, you know). I felt as if I was in the Twilight Zone. Everyone agreed about the negativity and was discussing it. I didn't know what anyone was talking about. I had not noticed any inordinate negativity either. (I don't read Colored Stones at the moment, however, and some of you have mentioned that as one place where there is a lot of negativity.)

I have noticed that the transition from Pricescope 1 to Pricescope 2 caused us to lose a lot of posters. Like ksinger, I find Pricescope more banal than in the days when we were having political discussions. Being more banal is negative in my eyes, but it does not mean that there is any increase in negativity! People always fought on Pricescope, and sometimes fought viciously. I was attacked far more in the past than I have been recently (AGBF knocks on wood). Posters never needed a reason to attack. There could be a full moon and they could read something I wrote and think they decoded a message from Satan in it! Then someone would come at me and refuse to let up, no matter how appeasingly I posted.

I think some of my fellow old-timers have selective memories!

Deb/AGBF

Yes. This. I could give you example after example. ksinger and I are on the same page. I'm not having a baby. I'm not buying jewelry. I'm not acquiring shoes or handbags. I'm not planning a wedding or hoping for an engagement ring. So that leaves . . . not much. Especially when people want to get fussy for no good reason. I've got a really low tolerance threshold for manufactured drama.

I am the same way - at least IRL. I don't understand relationship drama - my way of introducing drama into my life is by traveling and exploring new things. Life throws plenty of drama without having to create any. I also am not doing those things (well, want to reset my ring) but I love a good debate... I suppose, using the baby shower thread, it is in poor taste for me to create a debate out of the original post, but it was interesting to me and I felt a little bit of passion about it and we all know how great it is to actually feel that. Granted, it was small potatoes as in the big picture I don't think (or I hope they don't) anyone actually gives a crap how many baby showers a person has. I am not invested in that particular topic, but I was having fun discussing it... the fun ended way too soon - probably because most people were just not having fun.

Hmm... I've had more fun and more heartache on debate boards.... but this isn't one. This is a diamond forum with a sideshow for people to talk about other things... I think the mods would prefer to keep the tone mild.

 

[RedRobbin]

Thank you for the link. I will check it out. The only thing I take issue with in your post is your suggestion that the forum is kept unbiased. I think it is very biased in favor of hearts and arrows cut style even though that isn't the only way to get a beautiful diamond. Not everyone likes the bold arrows that you are supposed to prefer. Some do but some don't. Some people like Round brilliants with larger tables. Some people like radiants with less bold facets. (That discussion is also taking place on RT). I also think there is a bias against GIA as a certification house even though they are very well respected. Just not here for some reason that makes no sense to me. Anyway, thank you for your nice reply. I will take a look at the link.

I think you'll find that PS'ers like a wide variety of cuts actually. I think it's fair to say that hearts and arrows is the most popular, but it is definitely not the only choice or perfect choice for everyone. Some prefer antique cuts, low colour, it just depends. A good number of people here don't even prefer diamonds, but instead choose coloured stones. To each his own. Some of us are even brave enough to trust our own eyes (and maybe our appraiser's) and go with an uncerted stone.

I sort of had to do that myself. I recently got a Lucida diamond ring from Tiffany. But who can grade it other than Tiffany? I am going to get it appraised but I am not sure how they can vouch for the cut grade. It is really sparkly though, so I guess I believe Tiffany when they say the cut is excellent. It sure looks beautiful to me. I posted for advice on another forum of tradespeople before I bought it and they basically said "Trust Tiffany." Ok, I did. I love the ring so I guess it was the right decision.

 

[OUpearlgirl]

I'll take some Prosecco please!!

 

[Dreamer_D]

I saw that thread before it was deleted. Stone Cold didn't have to offer his opinion on the OP's stone, as OP was just sharing his excitement about finding a stone and setting. However, I didn't see any problem with Stone Cold's post. Plus, he wasn't rude about it but just noted that the numbers didn't do so well on HCA and asked if OP visually inspected the stone in other lighting. When the OP said he was happy with the stone, Stone Cold backed off. The vendor was entitled to state his opinion but frankly, I thought his tone was off-putting and overly aggressive towards Stone Cold, given that Stone Cold has no interest whatsoever in OP's purchase and was just trying to be helpful. I didn't think there was a threat to the vendor to "get in line or get out" but a polite referral to an article that provided good advice to vendors posting here. Some people like to buy diamonds with their eyes. Some rely on numbers. I felt bad that the thread veered from the OP's original intent but I don't think anyone piled onto the vendor. If anything, people piled onto Stone Cold.

I agree. I saw the thread. Red Robbin, you might want to read the forum policies here: https://www.pricescope.com/content/forum-policies. It's very important that vendors do not get personally involved in discussions here unless it is somehow directed specifically at said vendor. That's how the board is kept as unbiased as possible. Also, it is tradional that topics posted in Rocky Talky are up for criticism and further discussion. Show Me the Bling is specifically for showing what has already been purchased, so everyone knows not to offer a criticism there unless asked.

I am the poster in that thread that RedRobbin thinks was being unfair to the vendor. I am glad to see that at least two others saw things the way I did and did not think I was being hostile. Believe it or not, I was trying to be clear and fair in my post . I feel quite strongly that vendors need to toe the line as it were and be careful how they conduct themselves because of their position of power as experts. In my opinion, the vendor in question in that thread violated policies when he/she commented upon the cut quality of a diamond offered by another vendor. I pointed that out and offered what I thought was helpful advice for the new trade member.

RedRobbin, did you read the link to Neil's article that I posted for the vendor? Perhaps if you did you would see I was being helpful. Anyways, sorry if it did not seem that way to you. If you think that a particular viewpoint is not being represented in RT, and you hold that viewpoint, then stay there and participate actively and get your POV heard! But you have to be willing to accept that people will disagree with you and let it roll off your back. There are a few regular posters who do not agree with the majority wrt cut quality, and after some initial bumps like you are identifying, they have stuck it out and are now regular posters.

FWIW I do not give a fig if anyone disagrees with me, or if a vendor wants to pontificate about his/her views about cut etc in a thread. But I do not like when they violate the forum rules because this is first and foremost a consumer advocacy forum and I want to see it stay that way. Next time, I will perhaps just report the violation and leave it to the mods to sort out, rather than commenting directly in a thread. But perhaps not I feel strongly about this issue.

 

[RedRobbin]

I saw that thread before it was deleted. Stone Cold didn't have to offer his opinion on the OP's stone, as OP was just sharing his excitement about finding a stone and setting. However, I didn't see any problem with Stone Cold's post. Plus, he wasn't rude about it but just noted that the numbers didn't do so well on HCA and asked if OP visually inspected the stone in other lighting. When the OP said he was happy with the stone, Stone Cold backed off. The vendor was entitled to state his opinion but frankly, I thought his tone was off-putting and overly aggressive towards Stone Cold, given that Stone Cold has no interest whatsoever in OP's purchase and was just trying to be helpful. I didn't think there was a threat to the vendor to "get in line or get out" but a polite referral to an article that provided good advice to vendors posting here. Some people like to buy diamonds with their eyes. Some rely on numbers. I felt bad that the thread veered from the OP's original intent but I don't think anyone piled onto the vendor. If anything, people piled onto Stone Cold.

I agree. I saw the thread. Red Robbin, you might want to read the forum policies here: https://www.pricescope.com/content/forum-policies. It's very important that vendors do not get personally involved in discussions here unless it is somehow directed specifically at said vendor. That's how the board is kept as unbiased as possible. Also, it is tradional that topics posted in Rocky Talky are up for criticism and further discussion. Show Me the Bling is specifically for showing what has already been purchased, so everyone knows not to offer a criticism there unless asked.

I am the poster in that thread that RedRobbin thinks was being unfair to the vendor. I am glad to see that at least two others saw things the way I did and did not think I was being hostile. Believe it or not, I was trying to be clear and fair in my post . I feel quite strongly that vendors need to toe the line as it were and be careful how they conduct themselves because of their position of power as experts. In my opinion, the vendor in question in that thread violated policies when he/she commented upon the cut quality of a diamond offered by another vendor. I pointed that out and offered what I thought was helpful advice for the new trade member.

RedRobbin, did you read the link to Neil's article that I posted for the vendor? Perhaps if you did you would see I was being helpful. Anyways, sorry if it did not seem that way to you. If you think that a particular viewpoint is not being represented in RT, and you hold that viewpoint, then stay there and participate actively and get your POV heard! But you have to be willing to accept that people will disagree with you and let it roll off your back. There are a few regular posters who do not agree with the majority wrt cut quality, and after some initial bumps like you are identifying, they have stuck it out and are now regular posters.

FWIW I do not give a fig if anyone disagrees with me, or if a vendor wants to pontificate about his/her views about cut etc in a thread. But I do not like when they violate the forum rules because this is first and foremost a consumer advocacy forum and I want to see it stay that way. Next time, I will perhaps just report the violation and leave it to the mods to sort out, rather than commenting directly in a thread. But perhaps not I feel strongly about this issue.

Well I think we will have to respectfully agree to disagree with your characterization of what occurred. I saw it as the vendor defending the decision to purchase the diamond as a sound decision based on the numbers and his own experiential knowledge in the field when it comes to people buying diamonds. The purchaser had already bought it, so I don't see the vendor as interfering anyway. The vendor said it was a sound decision and that he felt it was wrong for Stone Cold to criticize it. Seems fair to me. I see trash talk on RT go on all the time. Vendors will trash each other as "stupid" or whatever, (I saw Garry Holloway say as much to Rock Diamond about two weeks ago) for having the nerve to espouse a POV that differs from their own personal POV. In that particular thread RD had the temerity to point out that Garry Holloway was using graphics to depict color in fancy cut diamonds and not real pictures. It was totally germaine, but Holloway instead went ballistic on RD and said that essentially RD is a moron. That seems totally off base.) I see "consumers" with amazing levels of knowledge trash diamonds all the time. We know they are consumers because....well because they say they are. So actually we don't really know their roles here. And there isn't a check and balance system in place. I am not saying that you are not a consumer or that anyone in particular isn't, but it is just weird that when a "consumer" trashes a decision to buy, complete with statistics and all sort of analysis at the ready, it's OK, but when a member of the trade logs on and says that a diamond that was already purchasedis a nice diamond, that is NOT OK. I would rather have the ability to rely or not rely on the opinions of a person who has identified himself or herself by their true identity and their role in the trade on a diamond that I just bought. At least I know who I am talking to. One thing that seems for sure is that there are more than one POV on good diamond cuts, so IMO people who are in the trade should be free to express their views without being stifled in favor of "consumers" whom we really don't know anything about, including their consumer status. If the consumers can opine then I don't see why the vendors cannot. The only caveat to that should be that vendors cannot opine on stones they are trying to sell themselves.

 

[kenny]

If I'm purchasing from vendor A I do not want vendor B to comment on the stone.

There is an inherent conflict of interest.

 

[Kaleigh]

I'll take some Prosecco please!!

What is that?? Ok well it's coming right up!!! Sorry for the delay OU!!!

 

[Kaleigh]

If I'm purchasing from vendor A I do not want vendor B to comment on the stone.

There is an inherent conflict of interest.

Agree 100%.

 

[RedRobbin]

If I'm purchasing from vendor A I do not want vendor B to comment on the stone.

There is an inherent conflict of interest.

It's not a conflict of interest. They are competitors. One isn't pretending to be an advocate for a party while he or she works against that party's interest. Everyone understands that competitors are competing for business. So there isn't a conflict of interest. And while I see how it could get out of hand for example, with someone unfairly trashing a very nice diamond, how is that different from what already goes on now? That's exactly what happened earlier on RT with these guys telling the buyer that their GIA triple excellent certified diamond was no good! They had not even seen the stone but were giving their opinions that it was a bad choice. Then someone from the trade came on and said, "Yes it is good." There's no conflict of interest there. And let's say that no one from the trade had jumped in and reassured the buyer that the diamond was actually nice quality. So then the buyer rethinks the decision and buys from a vendor recommended by the "consumer." That's not a conflict of interest??? Well it depends on who runs PriceScope and what each person's interest in the site truly is. Since we don't know the answer, there is no way to know if this set up is better than the alternative. But if consumers are recommending vendors that just so happen to be running PriceScope, I would say that too could be a conflict of interest, especially if the site is being heralded as a "consumer advocacy" site.

 

[Ella]

We do not allow vendors to comment on or judge the purchases/potential purchases of members on the forum in order to keep it unbiased.

Consumers are welcome to offer advice and generally this works well as forum members step in when necessary to help.

Please let that be the last comment regarding the deleted thread. It was removed for a reason.

 

[yssie]

There is years' worth of threads re. Garry, David, and company all going at it (and each other) with pitchforks in the PS archives RedRobbin.


IMO BOTH sides of the argument A) have good points, and B) tend to prefer not to accept that the other has good points. Well, whatever, we're all human.

Do your homework, choose your own stance, and support that - and that inherently means questioning what each side is telling you.

 

[Gypsy]

Wow. I think everyone needs another round of drinks.

I'll help Lisa and maybe we can all get toasted enough to have some fun.

BTW I agree with Deco. It's has been boring. Meanness stands out when there is nothing else going on. And there is only so much a person can take of the same posts by the same person complaining about the same thing, while doing nothing about any of it. Which is why I have a mental ignore button and try to avoid those posts.

Lisa, I'm having a Mojito... I've got a blenderful of STRONG margaritas, and some Zantac... and even a Xanax for a chaser. Everyone take a deep breath! I'm getting some tequila shots ready for the emergency cases!

Also, find out tomorrow about the background check. Streeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssss. Fingers, eyes, and toes crossed. Will update one way or another.

 

[Gayletmom]

So I know I'm way back on page 1 answering the original question but I wanted to toss in my two cents.

I've noticed some shifts her in the last couple of years and I'm of the opinion that much of it is circumstantial. Most people that I know are experiencing increased stress and anxiety recently. There seems to be a lot of angst, financial and otherwise, in our world these days. In my own family we've had an elderly relative who was ill for months and finally passed away coupled with job uncertainty and extra long hours on the road. It seems like most everyone I know has sick or elderly parents/house stress/job stress/how do we pay for college stress/etc.

Under these conditions, there are more of us on edge and it's sometimes harder to be as empathetic or delicate as we should. So what I'm saying is, try not to take the negativity personally. It's almost certainly not about you.

FWIW, I think this is great place and plan to stick it out. I hope everyone else does the same.

 

[iheartscience]

Wow. I think everyone needs another round of drinks.

I'll help Lisa and maybe we can all get toasted enough to have some fun.

BTW I agree with Deco. It's has been boring. Meanness stands out when there is nothing else going on. And there is only so much a person can take of the same posts by the same person complaining about the same thing, while doing nothing about any of it. Which is why I have a mental ignore button and try to avoid those posts.

Lisa, I'm having a Mojito... I've got a blenderful of STRONG margaritas, and some Zantac... and even a Xanax for a chaser. Everyone take a deep breath! I'm getting some tequila shots ready for the emergency cases!

Also, find out tomorrow about the background check. Streeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssss. Fingers, eyes, and toes crossed. Will update one way or another.

Ditto all of this, especially the part about the margaritas and Xanax! Yes please!

P.S. Good luck on the background check! All fingers and toes are crossed!

 

[Gypsy]

Thank you Thing honey. Here's a huge Margarita, lots of salt on the rim and a Xanax chaser... quick Dream honey, if I crush some of the Xanax up can I get you to snort it and maybe chase it down with a short of tequila?

 

[Kaleigh]

Gypsy,
Wishing you all the best for the background checks, fingers and toes are crossed for you woman!!!! I am excited for you and your new job!!

I forgot what you ordered.... I am a bad bar keep... Margarita?? If so it's coming right up lady!!!

I think this thread has worn me out.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Thank you Thing honey. Here's a huge Margarita, lots of salt on the rim and a Xanax chaser... quick Dream honey, if I crush some of the Xanax up can I get you to snort it and maybe chase it down with a short of tequila?

haha... I think that would make me completely comatose which is obviously what I need right now

Good luck with your background check! I promise not to tell them you tried to drug me into submission if they happen to call me.

ETA And since my post count now ends in "666" which in the partial carat weight of my diamond AND apparently my favourite number tonight , I am out for the night.

Cheers everyone!

 

[iheartscience]

Thank you Thing honey. Here's a huge Margarita, lots of salt on the rim and a Xanax chaser... quick Dream honey, if I crush some of the Xanax up can I get you to snort it and maybe chase it down with a short of tequila?

Wait I have a better idea-why don't you put the crushed Xanax on the rim? But I'll still take the Xanax chaser!

Maybe that'll help me come down from my coffee high. I just realized that the ONLY beverage I drank today was coffee. Yep! 2 large iced coffees. No wonder I'm not tired AT ALL and it's midnight.

 

[Dancing Fire]

FWIW I do not give a fig if anyone disagrees with me, or if a vendor wants to pontificate about his/her views about cut etc in a thread. But I do not like when they violate the forum rules because this is first and foremost a consumer advocacy forum and I want to see it stay that way. Next time, I will perhaps just report the violation and leave it to the mods to sort out, rather than commenting directly in a thread. But perhaps not I feel strongly about this issue.

did i miss a drama thread??

 

[Gypsy]

I actually DO need Xanax I'm so nervous about tomorrow. Too bad in reality I don't have any. I wonder if virtual Xanax works. Well, in case it does I just virtually took 3 of the suckers. There is a good chance that one thing in my background may disqualify me for this particular job (though it has never been an issue before).

Kaleigh, stick enough hard alcohol in it and a umbrella and I'll drink anything. Thank you my friend.

Thing2, great idea... crushed Xanax on ALL the rims. Hope you get some sleep despite the coffee rush.

Dreamer, thank you for taking the suggestion in all good humor, as you always do. Have a good night and ((HUGS)).

DF, yes, you did. Have a Margarita.

Thank you all for the good wishes. I just had no idea this might be an issue with this particular job, and now I'm so freaking worried.

I'll be lurking for a while, in all probability.

 

[mousey]

I am a newbe and don t post much, but I have noticed a growing sense of antagonism. I reckon its because there are some posters who do not like other posters. Actually it seems like there are groups of posters that do not like other groups of posters. It reminds me a bit of the way things were in my all girls secondary school.
Nevertheless I love PS. I ve only been here a year, but in that time I have found the people on here SO helpful and giving with their time and expertise. If it weren't for PS I would nt have my beautiful engagement ring (that I still haven't taken photos of) and my lovely JKT pendant. Also I wouldn't have been able to help my BF buy a suit. The people here know so much about so much, and are always willing to help- so thanks for that!

 

[bee*]

I don't see too much negativity but I do think that PS is getting very quiet and not much is happening. A lot of posters that I really like don't seem to post much, if at all, anymore and although I still adore PS, I do find myself not logging on for a few days or just lurking instead of posting.

 

[Cehrabehra]

I would like to say to RedRobin that sometimes the people on RT get caught in the minutia. Not unlike an olympic swimmer who shaves his legs and head to cut his racing time down by less than a second. For most of us this is an irrelevant issue. For most diamond purchasers that nth between "very good" and "superb" is irrelevant too - so you have to understand your audience. I've seen OldMiner, Garry, Jonathan, and Brian debate those nth issues because they all have slightly different ideas of what perfection is (or as close as you can) but to some extent it's a matter of preference. Take LGF for example - one person likes them short and another likes them long... if you go for an ACA from whiteflash there are constraints there that may prevent you from having very long or very short LGF and still be in the ACA category. When Brian left whiteflash I believe he altered the LGF for his signature stones a little bit (though I do not recall if they are longer or shorter).

When people go to RT the veteran posters help them to decide what their criteria are. Some people genuinely are not that concerned with cut, though that is definitely not a majority opinion here. Where there is a majority of people who have studied and chosen to shave off that nth to be the best of the best and not just the best - they believe in every ounce of their being that they have made a superior choice and they encourage others to make similar superior choices. But the reality is - and they all know this - that not everyone needs or wants to make that superior choice and a VGVGVG diamond will suit their needs perfectly. When asked is this a good stone - the answer is yes, this is a good stone - but there are better stones. When you make a choice to not have the best of the best there's nothing wrong with that but you have to own that decision too. There are a lot of people out there, posting here in fact, who have funkydunky stones and they LOVE them for their quirks even if they are far from perfect.

Understanding this atmosphere on RT is important. When push comes to shove most will not begrudge another's choice, but when asked (sometimes unasked), they will give an honest opinion and sometimes the honest opinion is that there indeed are better stones out there. The "Ideal" stones are the best stones there are... but the "SuperIdeal" are the best of the best... the nth factor. And even in that realm the experts don't always agree....

 

[RedRobbin]

I actually DO need Xanax I'm so nervous about tomorrow. Too bad in reality I don't have any. I wonder if virtual Xanax works. Well, in case it does I just virtually took 3 of the suckers. There is a good chance that one thing in my background may disqualify me for this particular job (though it has never been an issue before).

Kaleigh, stick enough hard alcohol in it and a umbrella and I'll drink anything. Thank you my friend.

Thing2, great idea... crushed Xanax on ALL the rims. Hope you get some sleep despite the coffee rush.

Dreamer, thank you for taking the suggestion in all good humor, as you always do. Have a good night and ((HUGS)).

DF, yes, you did. Have a Margarita.

Thank you all for the good wishes. I just had no idea this might be an issue with this particular job, and now I'm so freaking worried.

I'll be lurking for a while, in all probability.

Gypsy, I wish you the best of luck getting this job. I really hope it works out for you.