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Everyone has been a great help, on this site, so I''m going to continue to ask. After reading around this forum, everyone is starting to sway me towards whiteflash.com or goodoldgold.com. I''m not sure, maybe it''s because I''m in a smaller market, but the jewelers in the area cannot give me anywhere near the information that they to above listed sites give me about a stone.

So in true New to Diamond buying Form I ask this. I kind of like this diamond from Whiteflash:
http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/Whiteflash-ACA-cut-diamond-1848210.htm#

In comparison to the Branded HeartStar I was looking at in the store for 8400 + Tax details listed again below, which would make more sense, I can''t get an ASET Image, or IdealScope image of the in store one, or any report on light performance at all except for the AGS 0 cut.

AGS Certified 9/26/2007 Shape: Round Brilliant
Measurements: 6.41 - 6.48 X 4.01mm
Cut: AGS Ideal 0
Color Grade: AGS 1.5 (G)
Clarity Grade: AGS 3 (VS1)
Ct Weight: 1.017
Comments: Negligeble Flourescense/Laser Inscribed Cert Number
Table: 54.6%
Crown Angle: 34.0%
Paivilion Angle: 41.0%
Depth Percentage: 62.1%
Culet: Pointed
On this faxed copy, I can''t make out exactly where all the flaw mapings are, but it lists in the key: Crystal, Needle, Cavity, Indented Natural. Not sure if there is anything to worry about there.

I know there was some expressed concern about the Cavity on the Hearts Star Diamond. The Whiteflash report does seem possibly a little cleaner on this front.

Opinions? Let me know! Eager for more input and information, on the ASET and IdealScope Images on that WhiteFlash diamond in question.



 
Date: 6/4/2009 9:38:17 AM
Author:SeekingInput

Everyone has been a great help, on this site, so I''m going to continue to ask. After reading around this forum, everyone is starting to sway me towards whiteflash.com or goodoldgold.com. I''m not sure, maybe it''s because I''m in a smaller market, but the jewelers in the area cannot give me anywhere near the information that they to above listed sites give me about a stone.

So in true New to Diamond buying Form I ask this. I kind of like this diamond from Whiteflash:
http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/Whiteflash-ACA-cut-diamond-1848210.htm#

In comparison to the Branded HeartStar I was looking at in the store for 8400 + Tax details listed again below, which would make more sense, I can''t get an ASET Image, or IdealScope image of the in store one, or any report on light performance at all except for the AGS 0 cut.

AGS Certified 9/26/2007 Shape: Round Brilliant
Measurements: 6.41 - 6.48 X 4.01mm
Cut: AGS Ideal 0
Color Grade: AGS 1.5 (G)
Clarity Grade: AGS 3 (VS1)
Ct Weight: 1.017
Comments: Negligeble Flourescense/Laser Inscribed Cert Number
Table: 54.6%
Crown Angle: 34.0%
Paivilion Angle: 41.0%
Depth Percentage: 62.1%
Culet: Pointed
On this faxed copy, I can''t make out exactly where all the flaw mapings are, but it lists in the key: Crystal, Needle, Cavity, Indented Natural. Not sure if there is anything to worry about there.

I know there was some expressed concern about the Cavity on the Hearts Star Diamond. The Whiteflash report does seem possibly a little cleaner on this front.

Opinions? Let me know! Eager for more input and information, on the ASET and IdealScope Images on that WhiteFlash diamond in question.



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The jeweller diamond is an unknown quantity, it has good numbers but thats all we can tell. The WF diamond has the info provided plus a solid upgrade policy should that ever be a consideration, if so do you know if this jeweller offers one and if so what are the terms?

I would say to go with the WF diamond as I am familiar with this company and their diamonds compared to this other Heartstar, the cavity on this diamond might be ok but it would be best to get a pro to check it.
 

I was starting to lean more towards this Whiteflash diamond the more I analyze my situation. So I decided to post all the images here for opinions and make it easier on you all.



Anything I should be looking at closer or concerned with?



Any concerns I should have when dealing with Whiteflash? I know them and GoodOldGold have been highly talked about on these forums, just want to see if there have ever been complaints.



Thanks Again! I can post all the larger Individual Pictures if necessary but thought I would try to keep it all in one post.


Combined Image.jpg
 
Date: 6/4/2009 2:50:42 PM
Author: SeekingInput

I was starting to lean more towards this Whiteflash diamond the more I analyze my situation. So I decided to post all the images here for opinions and make it easier on you all.




Anything I should be looking at closer or concerned with?




Any concerns I should have when dealing with Whiteflash? I know them and GoodOldGold have been highly talked about on these forums, just want to see if there have ever been complaints.




Thanks Again! I can post all the larger Individual Pictures if necessary but thought I would try to keep it all in one post.
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Personally I have no concerns at all when dealing with WF or GOG, I have purchased from WF and would do business with either company without any qualms whatsoever. Yes sometimes things have not gone according to plan with some of these vendors in the past, but what matters is how they deal with it when there is a rare issue. If you so a search for * such and such a vendor complaints* or something similar, then that might give you an idea of how the vendors are extremely willing to put matters right when a problem has arisen.

The diamond images look great, it should be a gorgeous stone.
 

The diamond looks great!


WF has earned a good rep on PS, which says a lot to me--it is very hard to that kind of reputation amoungst well educated and savvy consumers. There are several other vendors, as well, that have earned their place. As Lorelei mentioned, with any company there will be occasional problems. How they handle those situations will tell you a lot about how much they value their customers.

 
WF ACA''s are always top cut quality, so there are no issues with the stone you have chosen. And do you know that there is a 5% discount on that price if you pay by wire and mention that you are a PriceScope member? That would bring the price down close to the other one you were looking at. And I honestly prefer the numbers on the WF stone.
 
I have to ask now, what other sites besides GoodOldGold of Whiteflash would you recommend. The thing that I like about these 2 sites is the amount of information they provide about the stone. Haven''t seen many others that provide that much detail. Anything else I should look at?
 
Thanks StoneCold for the response and everyone else. I breifly checked out the other sites, then created a customer account on WhiteFlash just as I was looking. To my surprise Juli called me in about 5 minutes of submiting the form. We talked for a bit on what I was looking for and we basically came back to what we were looking at. Basically including the diamond listed below we decided that these three were about where I wanted to be.

http://www.whiteflash.com/diamonds/Compare_Diamonds.aspx?idnos=1848203,1848215,1848210

Anyone want to help me make a final decision on this one?

I also glanced at this diamond on the site -

http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/Whiteflash-ACA-cut-diamond-560200.htm#

Why is this diamond engraved with "A Cut Above" but sold as a WhiteFlash ACA? Just curious. Noticed that listed on the cert.

It falls in the original color range I was looking for. My original thought was that I wouldn''t get anything under an H..and of course the VVS1 is a nice touch. But between these 4, I guess what I am really looking for is light performance, which is probably the hardest thing for a newbie to judge from images. So any suggestions from Anyone will be greatly appreciated.

I did run these through the HCA Cut Advisor and the all return really well:
The 1.02 ct. H/VVS1 Actually scored the best at .9
The 1.025 G/VS2 HCA Score = 1.1
The 1.01 G/VS1 HCA Score = 1.1
The 1.021 G/VS1 HCA Score = 1

So I don''t think I can really go wrong with any of them. Any input is much appreciated. I''m sure I will be happy with any of them as I had looked previously in the store and was originally impressed with a couple of stones that scored in the 3.x on the HCA. Then they found one in the 1.6 or so range that I really liked. There seemed to be just a little more fire to that stone so I''m sure that any of these 4 would make me happy.

Want to say a big thanks for all the help thus far. Pricescope has been one of the most informative sites, and group of helpful people that I have found on almost any subject. You have all turned me from an unkowledgable consumer to someone who actually understand what I am looking for in diamonds, and from someone who thought that a B&M store was one of the best places I could shop at, to someone who has grown comfortable talking about diamonds and possibly purchasing from a web site instead.

THANKS PRICESCOPE COMMUNITY!!!!
 
Just quickly with the HCA, it isn't a case of a lower score being better than a higher one, the HCA is a rejection tool only. The aim is to score below 2 then evaluate from there with images.

With the ACA diamonds I would probably be inclined to go with the first one which is considerably cheaper, the G VS2.

Thank you for your very kind words!
 
I have worked with Juli at Whiteflash. She is wonderful and will take all the time necessary to answer your questions and help you find what you need.
 
Date: 6/5/2009 7:41:40 AM
Author: Stone-cold11


Because A Cut Above = ACA? It is Whiteflash branded stone and engraved by WhiteFlash. So I am not sure what your question is about?
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Now that I look at it that way, it makes sense. I just noticed the difference on the AGS certs. The other three diamonds, the engraving is "WhiteFlash ACA" with the logo. I just noticed the difference on the certs and was wondering what the difference was. I guess at some point the changed what they chose to engrave on them?
 
Date: 6/5/2009 8:06:47 AM
Author: SeekingInput

Date: 6/5/2009 7:41:40 AM
Author: Stone-cold11


Because A Cut Above = ACA? It is Whiteflash branded stone and engraved by WhiteFlash. So I am not sure what your question is about?
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Now that I look at it that way, it makes sense. I just noticed the difference on the AGS certs. The other three diamonds, the engraving is ''WhiteFlash ACA'' with the logo. I just noticed the difference on the certs and was wondering what the difference was. I guess at some point the changed what they chose to engrave on them?
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ACA is just an abbreviation for A Cut Above.
 
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