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Opinions on these as to which is closer to a mehenge reddish/pink?

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Neither looks like a fine mahenge spinel color to me. They look like rhodolites. I love rhodolites, but rhodolites don't cost thousands per carat.

Awesome cutting on the trillion, but if color is what you're looking for, if the photos are accurate, these aren't the stones.

If you haven't already done so, there is a book called "Terra Spinel." I highly recommend you take a look at it, for it references very fine Mahenges and has superb photographs.

Here's a page of the book with a photo I took in natural diffused light. My camera kind of washed out the page, but the book is way more beautiful in person.

http://www.spinelbook.com/

While not a very comprehensive book on the science of spinels, it has many amazing photos of fine material from all over the world. I highly recommend it for that.

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Just like TL said. But dang! those are fantastic rhodolites.
 

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Thanks for the reference TL.

So, then what about this one?

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Vendor photo

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bright ice|1309532491|2959878 said:
Thanks for the reference TL.

So, then what about this one?

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Too desaturated. Don't get me wrong, you are picking out very pretty stones left and right, but if you want to know if they are fine Mahenge material color, I don't think so. However for regular pink spinels, they're very nice stones.

ETA: I wouldn't be so picky with you, but I know the amounts of money you're spending, and I assume you want something very fine.
 

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TL|1309532702|2959883 said:
bright ice|1309532491|2959878 said:
Thanks for the reference TL.

So, then what about this one?

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Too desaturated. Don't get me wrong, you are picking out very pretty stones left and right, but if you want to know if they are fine Mahenge material color, I don't think so. However for regular pink spinels, they're very nice stones.

ETA: I wouldn't be so picky with you, but I know the amounts of money you're spending, and I assume you want something very fine.


Yes, I am willing to spend the bucks but I want my money's worth.
 

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Does this one seems to be the closer color thus far?

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bright ice|1309533195|2959898 said:
Does this one seems to be the closer color thus far?

If, and that's a big IF (I mean this about all vendors, not just Eric) the photo is accurate, than yes.
 

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Her are two others that he photoed for me together.

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bright ice|1309533513|2959901 said:
Her are two others that he photoed for me together.

The trillion above seems more of a hot pink, and the bottom ones seem more purplish. Ask him which ones are closest to a pinkish red. Also ask about color shifts.
 

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He has been abroad and is to return to Tanazania tomorrow. He is to get back with me over the weekend as to what is currently available and with his suggestions.
 

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I actually think the Pala one is very, very nice (I am presuming it is Pala) - and knowing their stones and photos I think they often look better in person.

Of the others, the trillion is the best of the bunch and is a great stone.

TL - that's a lovely photo of your Mahenge on the Terra Spinel book. I am so torn on that - if it had more words I'd have bought it straight off, but I don't have a coffee table to put it on (and could probably buy one for the same price!)

I might wait till it turns up on the second-hand market and concentrate on putting pennies towards Koivula... I wish they'd do a digital version of those books but I guess it would be too easy to copy.
 

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Pandora|1309538690|2959975 said:
I actually think the Pala one is very, very nice (I am presuming it is Pala) - and knowing their stones and photos I think they often look better in person.

Of the others, the trillion is the best of the bunch and is a great stone.

TL - that's a lovely photo of your Mahenge on the Terra Spinel book. I am so torn on that - if it had more words I'd have bought it straight off, but I don't have a coffee table to put it on (and could probably buy one for the same price!)

I might wait till it turns up on the second-hand market and concentrate on putting pennies towards Koivula... I wish they'd do a digital version of those books but I guess it would be too easy to copy.

Thanks Pandora. It's not a scientific book by any means, but what it lacks in science, it really makes up for in the spectacular photographic examples. The images of the spinels are very very high quality. You can almost reach out and feel like you can pick up the stones. I think it's a great buy for anyone who is a collector of these gems as it has some rare examples of fine material from various locales.

As with any gem book that goes out of print and on the secondary market, it may jump very high in price, so the time to get it is probably now. However, I do realize it's expensive. Maybe at one of the larger gem shows it will be available.
 

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I have to say I love the color of the elongated oval from Swala the most, even if it's not pure "Mehenge color."
 

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TL|1309538918|2959979 said:
Thanks Pandora. It's not a scientific book by any means, but what it lacks in science, it really makes up for in the spectacular photographic examples. The images of the spinels are very very high quality. You can almost reach out and feel like you can pick up the stones. I think it's a great buy for anyone who is a collector of these gems as it has some rare examples of fine material from various locales.

As with any gem book that goes out of print and on the secondary market, it may jump very high in price, so the time to get it is probably now. However, I do realize it's expensive. Maybe at one of the larger gem shows it will be available.

True - remind self about Richard Hughes' 'Sapphires & Rubies'... :angryfire: might check if Gem-A have it as I get 10% student discount till the results come out!
 

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What about this spinel?

Trying to compare to Chrono's pear. Thoughts?

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Bump. Anyone?
 

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These stones are impossible to compare by photo's, especially photos from different vendors with different types of lights and camera's. The only slightly possible comparisons could be made if the stones were all photographed by the same person with the same lighting. Other than that, it's pure speculation on the part of the person making judgement on the stone.
 

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What geographic area do you live in BrightIce? I really think you need to go to a gem show.
 

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herekittykitty|1310062074|2963938 said:
What geographic area do you live in BrightIce? I really think you need to go to a gem show.

I live in Mississippi. I see that there is one in New Orleans coming up in the fall.
 

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bright ice|1310067273|2964034 said:
herekittykitty|1310062074|2963938 said:
What geographic area do you live in BrightIce? I really think you need to go to a gem show.

I live in Mississippi. I see that there is one in New Orleans coming up in the fall.


Is that intergem ?
 

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ooo~Shiney!|1310076254|2964143 said:
bright ice|1310067273|2964034 said:
herekittykitty|1310062074|2963938 said:
What geographic area do you live in BrightIce? I really think you need to go to a gem show.

I live in Mississippi. I see that there is one in New Orleans coming up in the fall.


Is that intergem ?

Yes, it's on 9/9/11
 

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Hmmmmmmm.........
That might be fun !!!
 
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