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Ideal_Rock
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This has been proven to be the case in other 'trials'.i think you're right...there will be some people who would prefer not to but if you offered basic income at a subsistence level and people could go out and make more, most people are going to go work for more
The other thing we need to remember is PUA is finite, as is all unemployment. The work requirements will be reinstituted.
These people who committed what is essentially fraud better be real careful, because I can guarantee the government is going to be extra vigilant about going after cases they know are happening once the pandemic is over.I must be delusional too, because that's what I thought. Imagine my surprise when I learned that she made more money per month than I did, and I was working full time. She gloated and bragged about all her money for doing NOTHING, while I was busting my butt. There are a sect of people out there are lazy to the core. Maybe she could have made 50% more if she was actually working, but that wasn't enough of a simulator when she knew she could make enough to pay bills, and have extra, without working.
I say you're not grasping my point because you're still trying to dumb it down. By quoting me and then going off about classism, elitism, and trickle down economics, NONE of which is actually even tangentially close to what I had been trying to express, aren't you casting aspersions and suggesting I hold illiberal views that I don't actually hold?
I don't appreciate being deliberately misconstrued, being automatically assigned a false label because I don't ascribe to groupthink on any issue.
Trickle down economics is not the solution. I'm saying that I am doubting your belief (feasibility wise) that we can provide these things to everyone. It's true that every other first world nation provide them, but without having done the research, I don't know whether every other first world nation has expenditures and government debt to the extent we do. Each individual European nation, after all, has a fraction of our population, and less disparity geographically compared to our nation.
Expectations are expectations, and reality is reality. I fully agree it's possible in theory to do better, but the political reality may yield different answers.
Your expectations and beliefs are not facts and evidence. I noticed you did not deign to respond to the fact that the US government draws the poverty line at a much lower point than you drew it.
Okay, and I'm saying I don't agree with your worldview. Your beliefs are also, just that. You don't need to insult me. You have no proof that applying living wages can't work or be sustained. In fact many first worlds are doing just that. And my having a different opinion is not dumbing it down. No one can live on 12k dollars a year, anywhere in the US. Without assistance? I'd be interested to see anyone make that math work.
I thought it's not a flat $700/wk everywhere. I think it's a percentage of your pre-unemployment pay PLUS an additional $700/wk.
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MS gets about 550 ish or $14 as a maximum benefit.
So yeah, 15 bucks an hour lifts people out of poverty in the lowest cost of living areas.