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Where could I find antique cut cushion cut pair gemstones

MMtwo

MMtwo

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I'm kicking around reset ideas for my antique old mine cut e-ring. I would like an antique 3 stone of some sort. I prefer the ring to be more period correct. I love my diamond and now it holds sentimental value. I have thought about either a pair of old cut/ OMC sapphires or spinel. Is there a vendor that has pairs of older cut gemstones or a vendor that could cut a pair that would look correct for this time period? I'm in the stewing phase at the moment. Looking at pairs of gemstones from different online vendors, the clean, well cut modern pairs of stones I have seen would not look appropriately shaped with a wonky middle stone. Open to ideas or suggestions. I have a slow timeline on this project, but want to keep my eye out or start planning for the other 2 stones. The main stone is 1ct.

Thanks for your time.

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I don't have any suggestions for you, unfortunately. But I just wanted to say that your diamond is gorgeous and this sounds like a really fun project. Good luck!
 
Jeff White cut these cushions for me, apparently it is an older cut:

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DK :))
 
Autumn in New England said:
I don't have any suggestions for you, unfortunately. But I just wanted to say that your diamond is gorgeous and this sounds like a really fun project. Good luck!
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Thank you so much! I am excited to start planning. Last week for our anniversary all hubby had to do was to mention he would be okay with a future reset. Well, I got excited.


dk168 said:
Jeff White cut these cushions for me, apparently it is an older cut:

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DK :))
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@dk168 thanks so much for the tip! What tiny tables :) I could see a similar cut working.
 
MMtwo said:
Thank you so much! I am excited to start planning. Last week for our anniversary all hubby had to do was to mention he would be okay with a future reset. Well, I got excited.
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He sounds like a keeper, my friend! I do hope you keep us updated on this project. I'd really like to see the end result. :) And Happy Anniversary!!
 
Ask around to custom cutters or cannibalize from an antique piece is the only way I've found. Gemstones in a 'diamond' antique cut are really rare- you're more likely to find Ceylon mixed cuts, rougher native mixed cuts or carre/French cut/emeralds in antique jewelry. Custom cutters would certainly be open to doing a diamond antique cut with culets, I would think.
Tell us who you find because that would be a source worth it's weight in gold.
I can't wait to see what you do! It's going to be fabulous.
 
Autumn in New England said:
He sounds like a keeper, my friend! I do hope you keep us updated on this project. I'd really like to see the end result. :) And Happy Anniversary!!
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Thank you so much! :) I hope I can pull off what I have in my head.

ItsMainelyYou said:
Ask around to custom cutters or cannibalize from an antique piece is the only way I've found. Gemstones in a 'diamond' antique cut are really rare- you're more likely to find Ceylon mixed cuts, rougher native mixed cuts or carre/French cut/emeralds in antique jewelry. Custom cutters would certainly be open to doing a diamond antique cut with culets, I would think.
Tell us who you find because that would be a source worth it's weight in gold.
I can't wait to see what you do! It's going to be fabulous.
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Great ideas. I have looked everywhere tonight and have yet to find a blue sapphire cut with a culet. Using a pair of stones from an old ring would be a good way to tackle this. I would assume it could keep the overall budget down too.

I will share here if I locate a cutter for the project and go in that direction.
Thanks so much for your suggestions!
 
I saw on IG today a blue oval sapphire that was recut to OMC. Maybe someone with a better memory/IG skills could find the post.
 
I had this spinel cut into an oec a number of years ago and I am really happy with its performance, despite what they say about doing this to colored rough (this was actually a round brilliant-cut originally).IMG_3013cr.jpgFeel free to reach out if you'd like to be put in touch with the cutter (not sure if still in the business ...).
 
mayday said:
I had this spinel cut into an oec a number of years ago and I am really happy with its performance, despite what they say about doing this to colored rough (this was actually a round brilliant-cut originally).IMG_3013cr.jpgFeel free to reach out if you'd like to be put in touch with the cutter (not sure if still in the business ...).
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:love: Ooh, you don't see this often in spinel :love:
Sorry to pepper with a ton of questions but...
What did this cut do to the optical properties, was there a marked difference? Was there color or saturation change? How does it behave? Does it throw chunky flash? Did the end result surprise you at all? Do you have any video snippets?
 
The change was dramatic! The stone went from purplish blue as a brilliant cut to predominantly slivery or greyish blue as an oec. The silver comes out in spades now, which I am pleased about, the spinel really came alive in the recut. It went from >4 ct to 2.75 ct. Kozibe is insane. I will try to attach a video at the end here.
before - purplish blue brilliant cut, ~ 4 ct:
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After - silvery blue oec, 2.75 ct:
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Kozibe as an oec:
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Some light play:
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Guess I have to host the video - if I can figure that out I'll post a link.
 
mayday said:
I had this spinel cut into an oec a number of years ago and I am really happy with its performance, despite what they say about doing this to colored rough (this was actually a round brilliant-cut originally).IMG_3013cr.jpgFeel free to reach out if you'd like to be put in touch with the cutter (not sure if still in the business ...).
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Wow, thanks, Mayday - this looks AMAZING! I love it.
Holy smokes - the color change is just stunning.
 
@mayday whoooa, that really is amazing!
Video! Video! Video!
You can post the link from vimeo, Youtube, imugr, Insta etc...into a comment.
 
Purple to blueberry blue, I'm still processing. That's an amazing change.
 
MMtwo, yep, you gotta be ready for anything when you engage a custom cut stone! ;)2
This was an experiment for both the vendor and me, and I got lucky this time.
Here's me trying to insert an old video (taken by the vendor) of the loose spinel
https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/716029770

Well, I thought it would embed, but I'm still learning. Anyway, this is in crappy office lighting, I'll take a sunlight video soon and try to upload that.
 
mayday said:
MMtwo, yep, you gotta be ready for anything when you engage a custom cut stone! ;)2
This was an experiment for both the vendor and me, and I got lucky this time.
Here's me trying to insert an old video (taken by the vendor) of the loose spinel
https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/716029770

Well, I thought it would embed, but I'm still learning. Anyway, this is in crappy office lighting, I'll take a sunlight video soon and try to upload that.
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What a lovely stone. It came out so well.
 
mayday said:
You're very kind, MMtwo! Here's a fresh video!
<div style="padding:75% 0 0 0;position:relative;"><iframe src="https://player.vimeo.com/video/716128416?h=64e0eb5fcb&amp;badge=0&amp;autopause=0&amp;player_id=0&amp;app_id=58479" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; fullscreen; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen style="position:absolute;top:0;left:0;width:100%;height:100%;" title="MVI_0929.MP4"></iframe></div><script src="https://player.vimeo.com/api/player.js"></script>
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You are a doll for recording that video. It is so interesting to see how it reflects the light. Thank you so much. I love the ring! :wavey:
 
:love: Remarkable! Isn't that cutting improvement a marvel? The videos show everything and more. I'm honestly surprised there aren't more lapidaries doing this style in spinel!
@mayday Thank you again for sharing this with us. It's a rare thing to see such an obviously improved outcome, especially rare make on particular material.
I know now, for sure, that antique style cutting really works on spinel.
 
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MMtwo, ItsMainelyYou, You guys are so welcome! You've given me a new appreciation for this ring. :cool2:
 
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