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When do you buy lab/MMD vs. mined?

vetrik

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I would be happy with LGD for every future piece. I have studs, huggies, wedding bands, and engagement rings currently. The prices of lab grown pieces have allowed me to enjoy all these!

I would probably only buy mined now for something I couldn’t find in lab grown. I wanted a square radiant hearts & arrows cut and ended up getting a beautiful mined .91 carat because it was a more rare cut and I couldn’t find any lab ones. I love it, but sometimes I think about the size in lab grown I could have gotten for the same price if it existed!
 

ProfessorBling

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I got one LGD because I needed a certain size to see the OEC facets but I knew I would not wear it every day so the $/wears for a mined diamond was too high. I got another LGD because I wanted a little OMC that was white and clean.

Someday I would like a HPHT with enough metallic inclusions to be magnetic. Bonus points if it glows in the dark.

If I were to get a custom cut or a rare or fantasy cut I would probably go with LGD for economy. For example a dodecahedron drilled pendant would be awesome but there’s no way I could afford mined rough and would not want to waste it by drilling. I think there’s real potential for LGD to let consumers get creative as well as cutters.

I’m on the fence about bracelets.
Ok I did not know they could be magnetic OR glow in the dark--I find this to be extremely cool and now I want one too.

What if everyone is wrong and the value of LGD actually goes up in the future due to demand and maybe regulatory issues like carbon tax for production? Is this a ridiculous thought or could it be possible?
I've thought of this. I think about how a lot of early 1900s jewelry had synthetic sapphires, etc. So many millenials want MMD or moissy now due to the low price/ethical reasons (this is another discussion, I see a lot of conflicting views on the ethics of MMD.) So maybe they will be worth more as vintage pieces?
 

oncrutchesrightnow

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Ok I did not know they could be magnetic OR glow in the dark--I find this to be extremely cool and now I want one too.


I've thought of this. I think about how a lot of early 1900s jewelry had synthetic sapphires, etc. So many millenials want MMD or moissy now due to the low price/ethical reasons (this is another discussion, I see a lot of conflicting views on the ethics of MMD.) So maybe they will be worth more as vintage pieces?

That is a cool idea, that someday LGD jewelry will be trendy vintage.

HPHT can have metallic inclusions that are magnetic; and phosphorescence. Both traits are considered undesirable so maybe we can find some for cheap. :mrgreen2:
 

sprinklesparkles

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Yup. Champagne diamonds, chocolate diamonds, etc.

Leon Mege has an interesting FAQ on MMD: https://leonmege.com/lab-grown-diamonds/

I thought I saw something else on there a few weeks ago saying in sum and substance that people put assign their own values to jewelry. It is hard to tell if he's being sarcastic or not; either way the idea is still true. Diamonds wouldn't cost as much as they do if we didn't let them. :lol-2:

Oh my gosh, I love this so much haha
 
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Yup. Champagne diamonds, chocolate diamonds, etc.

Leon Mege has an interesting FAQ on MMD: https://leonmege.com/lab-grown-diamonds/

I thought I saw something else on there a few weeks ago saying in sum and substance that people put assign their own values to jewelry. It is hard to tell if he's being sarcastic or not; either way the idea is still true. Diamonds wouldn't cost as much as they do if we didn't let them. :lol-2:

LM’s site is f’ing hysterical. If I’m being honest with myself, it’s half of why I wanted him (edit: well, his people) to make my engagement ring. Jewelry and a show!

Sometimes, after reading certain threads here on PS, I will start to second guess my choice of LGD for the center stone of my e-ring. When that happens, I hop over to LM’s Editorial section for a sanity check — cures what ails me right quick. :D

Some choice lines (balanced by mockery of LGD marketing claims, because for LM nothing is sacred):

“DeBeers learned that diamonds are forever the hard way because every diamond ever found is still with us.”

“There are plenty of natural diamonds to satisfy human vanity until our civilization self-destructs.”

“So if your priority is a feeling of romance and tranquility, we recommend getting a natural diamond. But if you are a rational person without silly superstitions, go ahead, get the human-made diamond and save money to buy a mountain bike.”
 

ProfessorBling

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LM’s site is f’ing hysterical. If I’m being honest with myself, it’s half of why I wanted him (edit: well, his people) to make my engagement ring. Jewelry and a show!

Sometimes, after reading certain threads here on PS, I will start to second guess my choice of LGD for the center stone of my e-ring. When that happens, I hop over to LM’s Editorial section for a sanity check — cures what ails me right quick. :D

Some choice lines (balanced by mockery of LGD marketing claims, because for LM nothing is sacred):

“DeBeers learned that diamonds are forever the hard way because every diamond ever found is still with us.”

“There are plenty of natural diamonds to satisfy human vanity until our civilization self-destructs.”

“So if your priority is a feeling of romance and tranquility, we recommend getting a natural diamond. But if you are a rational person without silly superstitions, go ahead, get the human-made diamond and save money to buy a mountain bike.”

Yeah, he is hilarious! I wanted to work with him for my latest project--I adore his work--but when I got a quote I found it weird and I got spooked. Maybe next time. Your emerald cuts and baguettes are gorgeous and I can't wait to see how it turns out!

You gotta do what is best for YOU! This is one of the reasons why I don't use social media. Don't let what others have or say make you feel bad about your choices. I've been on PS for almost a decade and did not start posting until a couple of weeks ago. These couple of weeks have been great BUT I do sometimes feel like maybe something is not "good enough." I gotta remind myself that is all in my head. I think you're spot on using Leon's page as a reality check!
 

Musia

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My daughter received her MMD 3 stone ring the day before yesterday. She is 34y.o. and always wanted a natural one bigger than 2mm princess cut she bought when she was a college student (I personally grade it as Y-Z and SI2, the cute little ring is now in my posession). But she did research and in her opinion natural diamonds are way overpriced so she concentrated her attention on colored stones. She was my best friend and "business" partner, we were dreaming together about buying new sapphires and spinels, and garnets and tourmalines. And a small ruby too! And creating a collection of heirloom pieces. Since yesterday she is hooked and addicted to LGD and I feel a little lonely and almost betrayed :cry: . My tastes haven't changed, I love colored stones and tiny/small natural diamonds that I can afford. If I ever decide to get a diamond bigger than 0.5ct, It would only be a lab grown. And I am going to love it as much as I love my natural CSs :love: .
 

AprilBaby

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I own both types, both are equally beautiful. I don’t care where my diamonds come from. Price wins for me. If price comes down I think more people with large diamonds will be asked or assumed that they are MMD.
 

123ducklings

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MMD for things I’m not stressed to lose. I have a pair of mined diamond studs that were a sentimental gift, and regardless of insurance replacement I’d be sad to lose them. With young kids tugging on me and a busy schedule I was rarely wearing them, and was always checking my ears/not quite relaxed when I did (I’ve lost earrings several times before). I bought an MMD pair in the same size that I’ve been wearing almost daily.

This probably seems silly to some, but it allows me to enjoy diamond studs without worry in the back of my mind. If I lose them, they weren’t sentimental and will be easy enough to replace.

Similarly, I don’t do the “travel ring” thing, but if I bought one it would be MMD.
 

holyrock

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If resale of LGD were the same as mined then I don't think I would ever consider mined. I think the advertising industry has done a first rate job at romanticizing diamonds as unique and rare but if we take in all the raw materials the earth provides, diamonds don't rank anywhere near the top of the rarity scale. But I'd be lying if I said that influence hasn't had any impact on my decision making. The ER and eternity wedding band I purchased both contain mined diamonds. But moving forward I think most or all of my jewelry purchases will be LGD unless prices drop to nothing or they are viewed the same as CZ or Moissanite. So long as LGD are classified as diamonds and known as diamonds with the only difference being their origin LGD just seems like a smarter financial move.

Why would you stop buying MMDs if the price dropped to nothing? Nobody will ever view labgrowns as moissanite or cz or any other simulant, because they *drum roll* arent simulants but diamonds. If you could buy a LG 4ct round, star pattern, incredible light properties and it would be 2000$, would you buy it, if it was impossible to sell back? Or would you buy a 1carat round mined, similar light performance, star pattern, just incredibly shiny stone, for 9000$ but you can sell it back.

What do you choose.
 

Hwinty

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I wish there were more MMDs with fluoro. I’ve yet to find any with more than faint fluoro. I like warm diamonds with hidden fluorescence super powers. Luckily they’re cheaper but there’s not as many of them cut with ideal proportions.
 

goldnsilver

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I've got antique diamonds to tick off my list, so I don't think I'll be purchasing white MMDs in the foreseeable future. However I like the idea of fancy colour MMDs - I'd love a large pink diamond at some stage.
 

lovedogs

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I wish there were more MMDs with fluoro. I’ve yet to find any with more than faint fluoro. I like warm diamonds with hidden fluorescence super powers. Luckily they’re cheaper but there’s not as many of them cut with ideal proportions.

I wish the same!!!
 

Alybetter

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Apart from a 7 stone band, I have switched completely to MMD. (Not that I have a cache of diamonds)

Personally, the appeal of diamonds was never about their age or provenance. I liked their light performance and relative durability.

If I can get MMD for a fraction of the price of mined, I can’t imagine paying more for what is essentially the same thing. Especially since now since we have tools like ASET/HCA and other evaluators at our finger tips. Of course, this is entirely subjective and to each their own.

I brought 3 MMD (from clean origin) to my local jeweler recently. This is a jeweler who’s been in the business for 44 years and runs the premier fine jewelry store in my area. I respect them because they’re honest. He had no idea these were MMD. Only when I was leaving them and had to declare the value did he discover it, because he questioned if I had my figures right. Another store in Destin, Emerald Lady, has started selling MMD and that shocked me! Never thought I’d see that day.
 

vintageloves

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Lab = always
Mined = never

The only reason I have diamonds is because of mmd. I can afford mined diamonds, but I don't think they are worth the price.

That said, I would be open to mined diamonds in the future should one fall into my lap. I also put aside my blue lightbox because of concerns over the colored diamonds being irradiated.
 

AprilBaby

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Lab = always
Mined = never

The only reason I have diamonds is because of mmd. I can afford mined diamonds, but I don't think they are worth the price.

That said, I would be open to mined diamonds in the future should one fall into my lap. I also put aside my blue lightbox because of concerns over the colored diamonds being irradiated.

I thought someone said Lightbox is blue because of boron, not irradiation.
 
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