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What's you opinion on this diamond? Pics and Vid. Need help!

lambo

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First off, thank you for taking the time to help a newbie out! After spending much time looking for a diamond, I've narrowed it down to these two based on the HCA calculator.

Both diamonds are similar in price. Please let me know how these diamonds are, and if one is better than the other. Any advice is greatly appreciated! Also, if there's a similar diamond that you'd like to suggest, please feel free to let me know (my budget is around $20k)!

Diamond #1 - 2.01 ct. G color, VVS2, medium blue fluorescence:

VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJpuVzDVEJY (Fast forward to 0:26 sec)

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Diamond #2 - 2.02 ct. G color, VS1, faint fluorescence:

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#2. G VS1. No brainer.
VS1 is already eye clean and mind-clean, less light leakage, ideal proportions, smaller table and thick arrows for bold flashes and fire. faint fluo..

Very pretty.
 

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flyingpig|1471294496|4066353 said:
#2. G VS1. No brainer.
VS1 is already eye clean and mind-clean, less light leakage, ideal proportions, smaller table and thick arrows for bold flashes and fire. faint fluo..

Very pretty.
Ditto! Beautiful stone!
 

lambo

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ac117|1471295008|4066365 said:
flyingpig|1471294496|4066353 said:
#2. G VS1. No brainer.
VS1 is already eye clean and mind-clean, less light leakage, ideal proportions, smaller table and thick arrows for bold flashes and fire. faint fluo..

Very pretty.
Ditto! Beautiful stone!

Thanks so much for the responses! Just so I understand correctly, y'all prefer diamond #2 because the light performance is better than diamond #1? Does that automatically translate to being more brilliant? I'm trying to request a video of diamond #2 and will hopefully be able to post it. Thanks again for your help!
 

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lambo|1471295477|4066368 said:
ac117|1471295008|4066365 said:
flyingpig|1471294496|4066353 said:
#2. G VS1. No brainer.
VS1 is already eye clean and mind-clean, less light leakage, ideal proportions, smaller table and thick arrows for bold flashes and fire. faint fluo..

Very pretty.
Ditto! Beautiful stone!

Thanks so much for the responses! Just so I understand correctly, y'all prefer diamond #2 because the light performance is better than diamond #1? Does that automatically translate to being more brilliant? I'm trying to request a video of diamond #2 and will hopefully be able to post it. Thanks again for your help!
YES.

From AGS
"We are defining brilliance as: brightness with positive contrast effects"
This diamond has both brightness (no light leakage, lots of red) and positive contrast effects (well defined thick arrows)

#1 is ok. But not good as #2
 

lambo

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Ok, so I made a mistake in my original post! I actually posted three diamonds; I mixed up the GIA report and diamond images for two of the diamonds. I'm so sorry for the confusion! I can't edit my original post so I'll just make the changes here. There are actually three diamonds in consideration.

The ASET images in diamond #1 had the wrong GIA report. I'm moving the images for diamond #1 to diamond #3 and including the GIA report and video of that diamond. The new diamond #1 only has a video and no ASET image (the jeweler says there is no ASET available, is that normal?). Here it is with everything fixed:


Diamond #1 - 2.01 ct. G color, VVS2, medium blue fluorescence (No ASET image, only video):

VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJpuVzDVEJY (Fast forward to 0:26 sec)
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Diamond #2 - 2.02 ct. G color, VS1, faint fluorescence:

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Diamond #3 - 2.01 ct. G color, VS2

VIDEO: https://drive.google.com/a/engageme...0hWG5Dy4cJeZ2V5dkw0VnltbkE/view?usp=drive_web

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ac117

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Still stone #2. I wouldn't purchase stone #1 without an IS or ASET since the pavilion angle is >41. It's not uncommon for drop shippers to not have these images-it usually means the stone is not in house. What flyingpig said earlier still holds true for #2 being better than #3.
 

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That makes sense. I was surprised by the unusually good ASET for 34/41.4 combo.
#3 is good, if you prefer higher crown angle for potentially more fire/dispersion.
But I would still take #2 for better brightness, contrast, and overall appearance.
 

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flyingpig|1471298507|4066380 said:
That makes sense. I was surprised by the unusually good ASET for 34/41.4 combo.
#3 is good, if you prefer higher crown angle for potentially more fire/dispersion.
But I would still take #2 for better brightness, contrast, and overall appearance.
Thanks for confirming again! So overall, is diamond #2 a good one relative to other round brilliants around $20k? I know it may be the best out of the three, but could I possibly find a better diamond for my budget of $20k? I just want to make sure I find the best diamond for my future fiance. Thanks again for all your help!
 

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#2. Finding a 2 ct G VS1 at $20k is not easy, so I'd grab that one while you can!
 

lambo

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^Thanks for the response, diamondseeker! I'm really leaning towards #2 :) however, I stopped by a local jeweler today and wanted to get your thoughts on this one. I wasn't able to see the diamond in person as it will need to be ordered, but I do have some pictures and a video.

Could anybody please let me know their opinion of this diamond compared to the previous one's that I posted? The HCA is 2.3.


Diamond #4: 2.01 ct. G VVS2

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VIDEO: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4gGRAg9PiVSQmk3eWtrZDlFWXc
 

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#4 can be decent. But the crown is too high at 36.5. The HCA score also support this.
You need an ASET/IS to check for light leakage. Those images are just hearts and arrows image.

#2 is seriously good. It is a top level GIA XXX
 

lambo

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flyingpig|1471386492|4066693 said:
#4 can be decent. But the crown is too high at 36.5. The HCA score also support this.
You need an ASET/IS to check for light leakage. Those images are just hearts and arrows image.

#2 is seriously good. It is a top level GIA XXX
Thanks flyingpig! What does GIA XXX mean and is this something you can tell from the GIA report?
 

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lambo|1471442679|4066883 said:
flyingpig|1471386492|4066693 said:
#4 can be decent. But the crown is too high at 36.5. The HCA score also support this.
You need an ASET/IS to check for light leakage. Those images are just hearts and arrows image.

#2 is seriously good. It is a top level GIA XXX
Thanks flyingpig! What does GIA XXX mean and is this something you can tell from the GIA report?
Not flyingpig but what he means is

Cut grade - Excellent (X)
Symmetry - Excellent (X)
Polish - Excellent (X)
 

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lambo|1471442679|4066883 said:
flyingpig|1471386492|4066693 said:
#4 can be decent. But the crown is too high at 36.5. The HCA score also support this.
You need an ASET/IS to check for light leakage. Those images are just hearts and arrows image.

#2 is seriously good. It is a top level GIA XXX
Thanks flyingpig! What does GIA XXX mean and is this something you can tell from the GIA report?
I'll answer since it doesn't look like FP is on right now - GIA XXX means it's rated Excellent in Cut, Symmetry and Polish. However, GIA is very broad with their range of specs that fall into this triple XXX category, which is why we give ideal parameters to look for when sticking to GIA stones that would make for a top performing diamond. #2 is one of those stones.
 

lambo

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Ok, that makes sense now! Thanks for the responses! :angel:
 

lambo

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Anybody else have any input before I make my final decision? I'm leaning towards 2.02 G VS1, but I just want to make sure I'm getting the best diamond possible! Any input or advice is greatly appreciated (paging Gypsy lol)!! :D
 
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