What's with all the firearms here?

[Dancing Fire]

LOL. A conservative speaker.

I Don't think he's allow in Ca.

 

[redwood66]

AlexT, I am not speaking for everyone. According to comments here I guess all people should feel safe and calm when a large group of angry men are shouting while holding assault rifles. Count me as the foolish person who would not feel comfortable in this situation. SMDH

There was another protest with angry men holding guns a few years ago that resulted in a young woman being run over and killed.

I’m done. Alex asked a question and I gave her my opinion.

Then don't go. It is just that simple.

 

[soxfan]

I don't see it as a problem because the ones doing it are not the type to smash, trash, assault, or burn things up. They aren't Antifa.



I don't think they are doing it to be physically threatening at all.

All kinds of assumptions going on here.

BTW I always try to be honest so back that truck up with your nonsense. I have no desire to debate something with you that you know nothing about. Maybe it's threatening to you but that is how you perceive it.

Yeah, I find what you say to be "weird" as well. How are you the authority to speak on the motives of all of these people?

 

[soxfan]

Is this for real??

Yep. 100% real. I'd BET on it.

 

[JPie]

@Alex T nothing requires protestors to be armed. There’s a very vocal minority of gun nuts who have bought all the NRA propaganda about evil lefties coming to take their weapons, and a distrust of the government despite the fact that the police have consistently treated armed, white protestors rather leniently.

 

[redwood66]

Yeah, I find what you say to be "weird" as well. How are you the authority to speak on the motives of all of these people?

Because I know plenty of people like them. How are you the authority on their motives?

Since they are with a group of like minded individuals, who exactly are they threatening?

 

[soxfan]

Because I know plenty of people like them. How are you the authority on their motives?

I know plenty of people like you as well. And I know they'd show up wearing something to signify that they were there supporting their 2A rights. See how that works?? Don't come down on others making assumptions when YOU are doing that same exact thing.

 

[redwood66]

I know plenty of people like you as well. And I know they'd show up wearing something to signify that they were there supporting their 2A rights. See how that works?? Don't come down on others making assumptions when YOU are doing that same exact thing.

Why are you so worried about what people do at a protest you have nothing to do with and wouldn't attend?

What does "people like you" mean?

 

[soxfan]

It's just not worth it. My God. My good God.

 

[redwood66]

It's just not worth it. My God. My good God.

You started it.

What does "people like you" mean?

 

[Ally T]

@Alex T nothing requires protestors to be armed. There’s a very vocal minority of gun nuts who have bought all the NRA propaganda about evil lefties coming to take their weapons, and a distrust of the government despite the fact that the police have consistently treated armed, white protestors rather leniently.

Thanks I fear my innocent question has provoked some big emotions & I feel bad now about asking. But for me, personally, nope. Nope. Do not need to carry those kind of weapons to an innocent & peaceful protest about lifting restrictions.

 

[1ofakind]

I Don't think he's allow in Ca.

Certainly not without heavy protection.

 

[soxfan]

You know what? Yeah it is worth it- THIS pic is what is wrong. Marching on the State capital demanding an end to "the lockdown" during a freaking health pandemic. MORONS.

 

[redwood66]

Thanks I fear my innocent question has provoked some big emotions & I feel bad now about asking. But for me, personally, nope. Nope. Do not need to carry those kind of weapons to an innocent & peaceful protest about lifting restrictions.

There is nothing wrong with you asking this kind of question at all so don't feel bad. Some people cannot discuss firearms without emotions.

I understand your concern since you do not live in the US.

 

[JPie]

Thanks I fear my innocent question has provoked some big emotions & I feel bad now about asking. But for me, personally, nope. Nope. Do not need to carry those kind if weapons to an innocent & peaceful protest about lifting restrictions.

Don’t feel bad. It’s a legitimate question and I’m afraid that the aforementioned vocal minority and the NRA have far more influence on our lawmakers than they should.

 

[House Cat]

You know what? Yeah it is worth it- THIS pic is what is wrong. Marching on the State capital demanding an end to "the lockdown" during a freaking health pandemic. MORONS.

But who are they threatening? Public healthy and safety ? The elderly? Children? The hospital system’s ability to serve the sick? Nooo...once you own a gun, it gives you rights over all other human beings

 

[soxfan]

There is nothing wrong with you asking this kind of question at all so don't feel bad. Some people cannot discuss firearms without emotions.

I understand your concern since you do not live in the US.

You are right, Red. I apologize. I just am so pissed off about the President prematurely trying to open the country to benefit himself without taking the well-being of others into consideration.. And these people take everything he says as gospel.

Emotions are certainly high right now. Mine too.

 

[1ofakind]

Thanks I fear my innocent question has provoked some big emotions & I feel bad now about asking. But for me, personally, nope. Nope. Do not need to carry those kind of weapons to an innocent & peaceful protest about lifting restrictions.

Your question is a good one. But to add another facet... to many this is not just about lifting some restrictions....the restrictions infringe on the right to visit a neighbor, to go fishing in your boat even if alone, to buy seeds and plant a garden in one's own backyard. These are not things that people feel they should be forced to give up... even in a pandemic. They are afraid these rights -to travel, to engage in commerce/activity that threatens the health of no one, will be a step in the direction to infringe upon other rights. Our rights under the constitution come from our creator, not governments. People get real itchy if the government starts to mess with them.

 

[1ofakind]

You know what? Yeah it is worth it- THIS pic is what is wrong. Marching on the State capital demanding an end to "the lockdown" during a freaking health pandemic. MORONS.

And not one MAGA hat. I guess they didn't get the uniform memo.

 

[soxfan]

And not one MAGA hat. I guess they didn't get the uniform memo.

Hmmm.....I would think the Trump/Pence sign would be sufficient but ok? #strawman

 

[soxfan]

Your question is a good one. But to add another facet... to many this is not just about lifting some restrictions....the restrictions infringe on the right to visit a neighbor, to go fishing in your boat even if alone, to buy seeds and plant a garden in one's own backyard. These are not things that people feel they should be forced to give up... even in a pandemic. They are afraid these rights -to travel, to engage in commerce/activity that threatens the health of no one, will be a step in the direction to infringe upon other rights. Our rights under the constitution come from our creator, not governments. People get real itchy if the government starts to mess with them.

Ridiculous. NO one has said they cannot do these things. Wow.

 

[redwood66]

You are right, Red. I apologize. I just am so pissed off about the President prematurely trying to open the country to benefit himself without taking the well-being of others into consideration.. And these people take everything he says as gospel.

Emotions are certainly high right now. Mine too.

Thank you for this. It is appreciated. Please don't make assumptions about me.

 

[soxfan]

I've planted a garden, delivered food to neighbors, and my parents are fishing in their boat. We are all fine. And they voted for Trump and my dad is an NRA member. He would laugh at these people.

 

[redwood66]

Ridiculous. NO one has said they cannot do these things. Wow.

I think she is referencing Michigan restricting items stores can sell which includes seeds, paint, etc. IMO that is an overreach of government.

 

[missy]

I think she is referencing Michigan restricting items stores can sell which includes seeds, paint, etc. IMO that is an overreach of government.

@redwood66- agreed. Governor Whitmer went over the top.

"The governor’s order provides that residents cannot leave their homes except for essential services such as food or medical supplies, or engage in outdoor physical activity. It also bans travel to second homes and vacation properties."

Though I do not support people carrying firearms during protests.

Michigan residents sue Governor Whitmer over coronavirus pandemic orders

Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer faces at least two federal lawsuits challenging her April 9 executive order to combat the coronavirus outbreak, including requirements that residents stay at home and most businesses close.

www.reuters.com

 

[Ally T]

I think she is referencing Michigan restricting items stores can sell which includes seeds, paint, etc. IMO that is an overreach of government.

You're not allowed to buy seeds or paint? Wow! Things are pretty strict here right now in the UK, but we can plant things & paint things. That sounds fairly tight & uber-controlled. Definitely only allowed out for essential shopping & essential work, plus exercise once a day, but we can order seeds online (garden centres are closed) & DIY stores are open. What if your tap washer blew? You'd need to be able to source washers.

 

[soxfan]

I think she is referencing Michigan restricting items stores can sell which includes seeds, paint, etc. IMO that is an overreach of government.

I don't believe that. I've been able to buy plants, not even seeds- started lettuce plants, kale, peas, etc and home depot and lowe's are open as essential businesses.

Fact check: Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer did not ban sale of U.S. flags, plants, seeds

Michigan's stay-at-home order has spawned false allegations that it bans the sale of American flags, baby supplies, gardening needs and more.

www.usatoday.com

PolitiFact - Michigan's COVID-19 order doesn’t ban gardening or sale of seeds and fruit

In a regular feature called "How the Left Destroys the Nation," a website founded by the leader of a far-right group pos

www.politifact.com

This is a knee-jerk reaction to Trumps stupid tweets. I knew I smelled a rat...

 

[redwood66]

You're not allowed to buy seeds or paint? Wow! Things are pretty strict here right now in the UK, but we can plant things & paint things. That sounds fairly tight & uber-controlled.

It's that kind of overreach which people are protesting.

 

[redwood66]

I don't believe that. I've been able to buy plants, not even seeds- started lettuce plants, kale, peas, etc and home depot and lowe's are open as essential businesses.

Fact check: Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer did not ban sale of U.S. flags, plants, seeds

Michigan's stay-at-home order has spawned false allegations that it bans the sale of American flags, baby supplies, gardening needs and more.

www.usatoday.com

PolitiFact - Michigan's COVID-19 order doesn’t ban gardening or sale of seeds and fruit

In a regular feature called "How the Left Destroys the Nation," a website founded by the leader of a far-right group pos

www.politifact.com

This is a knee-jerk reaction to Trumps stupid tweets. I knew I smelled a rat...

The stores are required to block off sections so people cannot purchase certain items. This is government overreach.

 

[AGBF]

Of course I am, and I would expect they avoid such a protest.

People should not be allowed to go to protests with guns.