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STEP AWAY FROM THE ASSCHER, all ye rabid bling freaks!!!! (meant only in the most affectionate way, of course)

If Isaku passes on the ring, it's only fitting that Wallermama should decide the East Coast/West Coast split, don't you think? She is the one who found it and should therefore get first "wear!"
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Followed, of course, by me since I only live like 5 minues away from her.
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Hmmmm, I think I smell a knock-down drag-out East-West Coast cat fight just around the corner.
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This is PS at its voracious best!!!
 
WOW....is this a testament to the beauty of pricescope, (or the sickness of pricescope,) that a marginally housebound stay-at-home-mom gal in SF perused the classifieds for jewelry on craigslist...when not in the market of course....and saw a ring...and remembered the ring...and it all ends up getting matched to a woman in canada who is at home...looking for a ring...

Wow! A PS fairy tale!

Congrats, Isaku! I think you''ve finally found your "it" ring!
 
LOL...here I am late to the party....just rediscovered this thread...

Am I right in understanding that Isaku hasn''t quite committed yet?

Here''s my take: It might not be screaming "Buy me! Buy me!" to Isaaku, but it sure is to me!!! LOL...

IF I weren''t lucky enough to already own a big asscher, I would have snuck in, bought it, and ''relieved'' Isaku of having to decide. Seriously! All''s fair in love, war, and discounted honkers, you know...
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I hope there aren''t any lurkers out there who are as evil as I am and contacting the seller as we speak...

Isaku: GRAB IT!!

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Date: 8/28/2006 7:04:02 AM
Author: widget
All''s fair in love, war, and discounted honkers, you know...
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Date: 8/28/2006 7:04:02 AM
Author: widget
LOL...here I am late to the party....just rediscovered this thread...

Am I right in understanding that Isaku hasn''t quite committed yet?
okay I''m going to be a party pooper, and I mean no offence... but I just wanted to ask isabel if she''s *certain* she wants this... and isn''t just feeling pressured to make a decision and move on. I know, I know... I hear the groans, but I''d hate to think she got a stone just to prove to her skeptics that she can commit.
 
Good point, CB. Isabel, don''t let our drooling influence you into buying something that you aren''t 100% certain of. You said that the ring did not scream "buy me you fool" -- which is an important thing to consider. Obviously, you will be the wearer and you need to be in love with it.
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Date: 8/28/2006 1:49:18 PM
Author: KristyDarling
Good point, CB. Isabel, don''t let our drooling influence you into buying something that you aren''t 100% certain of. You said that the ring did not scream ''buy me you fool'' -- which is an important thing to consider. Obviously, you will be the wearer and you need to be in love with it.
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I agree, totally and completely.
 
To be perfectly honest, I'll need to see the ring again to make absolutely the final call.
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Maybe if so many eyes weren't watching me while I was trying it on oohing and ahhing, and if we weren't rushed by time constraints, I would have felt more comfortable and could possibly have heard the ring screaming,"Buy me, you fool!!!!"

When you're spending this much money, you have to be sure unless you're The Donald or someone like him.

I'm definitely not talking myself out of it (which is a great sign), but just want to view it again before I commit totally.

ETA: I also realize that if I "snooze" too long, I'll risk losing it which at this point is not a good thing.
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So.... are you going to look at it again? You do realize this ring is still listed on Craig''s list? The seller is asking for people to make an offer. Maybe you can talk him down! If you don''t like the setting then you could always reset it - then you could make 3 diamond rings out of one!!!
 
Date: 8/28/2006 4:06:24 PM
Author: :)
So.... are you going to look at it again? You do realize this ring is still listed on Craig''s list? The seller is asking for people to make an offer. Maybe you can talk him down! If you don''t like the setting then you could always reset it - then you could make 3 diamond rings out of one!!!
Thanks for the heads up :). I didn''t know that he had re-listed it!!!!!
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I guess he has every right to do that, but to be honest, I didn''t check over the weekend....
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Well, since he''s doing that, I should re-negotiate the price.
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To be fair to him, it has been listed on and off on Craigslist since this whole thing began. Just because he is talking to one interested party does not mean that he should not continue to list the ring. I sure wouldn''t. Isaku is not a buyer right now....she is an interested party. If someone came along with an offer, why shouldn''t he consider it?

I wouldn''t take it being listed personally! Just like with any purchase, whether it is jewelry or real estate, just because someone is looking at it does not mean it is on "hold" for that person...
 
Date: 8/28/2006 4:48:43 PM
Author: wallermama
To be fair to him, it has been listed on and off on Craigslist since this whole thing began. Just because he is talking to one interested party does not mean that he should not continue to list the ring. I sure wouldn't. Isaku is not a buyer right now....she is an interested party. If someone came along with an offer, why shouldn't he consider it?

I wouldn't take it being listed personally! Just like with any purchase, whether it is jewelry or real estate, just because someone is looking at it does not mean it is on 'hold' for that person...
I agree. It's just like selling your home, you may have someone very interested, but you keep showing it.
 
i definitely agree...i''d relist it...i mean obviously he wants to sell it. having one interested party means nothing really in the scheme of things....esp how long it''s been since isaku first showed interest...if i were him i''d just want someone to take it off my hands for a good price.
 
Date: 8/28/2006 4:43:14 PM
Author: isaku5
I didn't know that he had re-listed it!!!!!
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I guess he has every right to do that, but to be honest, I didn't check over the weekend....
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Well, since he's doing that, I should re-negotiate the price.
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Unless the seller told you specifically that he was HOLDING it for you --OR-- you left a sizeable DEPOSIT with him ... I don't think you have much cause to be all
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about him continuing his search for a motivated BUYER.

You know what *really* spurs re-negotiation? Other offers.
 
Date: 8/28/2006 4:48:43 PM
Author: wallermama
To be fair to him, it has been listed on and off on Craigslist since this whole thing began. Just because he is talking to one interested party does not mean that he should not continue to list the ring. I sure wouldn''t. Isaku is not a buyer right now....she is an interested party. If someone came along with an offer, why shouldn''t he consider it?

I wouldn''t take it being listed personally! Just like with any purchase, whether it is jewelry or real estate, just because someone is looking at it does not mean it is on ''hold'' for that person...
You are so right, wallermama, but he re-listed it the same day we drove to Buffalo to see it. With that timing, I have to admit, I am insulted. He knew of my situation with GOG right up front, he also knew that I wouldn''t be able to call GOG until the 29th, he could have at least waited until then to re-list...
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who really cares when he relisted it. maybe the person who showed it to you told him you didn''t seem excited about it and he thought oh well i better relist it. who really knows what went on but i would not be personally insulted at all. quite frankly, in my humble opinion, you should just figure out if you want the darn thing or move on. you said you have to see it again before making a decision, did you already schedule another meeting to see it?
 
Date: 8/28/2006 5:00:32 PM
Author: isaku5
he also knew that I wouldn''t be able to call GOG until the 29th, he could have at least waited until then to re-list...
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It''s not HIS fault you already BOUGHT a different stone. Your situation is of your own making & it''s none of his concern really. A PRIVATE seller doesn''t have to bend over backwards the way Rhino has ... because HE doesn''t have to worry about FUTURE business with you OR ANYONE for that matter.
 
Date: 8/28/2006 5:00:32 PM
Author: isaku5
Date: 8/28/2006 4:48:43 PM

Author: wallermama

To be fair to him, it has been listed on and off on Craigslist since this whole thing began. Just because he is talking to one interested party does not mean that he should not continue to list the ring. I sure wouldn''t. Isaku is not a buyer right now....she is an interested party. If someone came along with an offer, why shouldn''t he consider it?


I wouldn''t take it being listed personally! Just like with any purchase, whether it is jewelry or real estate, just because someone is looking at it does not mean it is on ''hold'' for that person...
You are so right, wallermama, but he re-listed it the same day we drove to Buffalo to see it. With that timing, I have to admit, I am insulted. He knew of my situation with GOG right up front, he also knew that I wouldn''t be able to call GOG until the 29th, he could have at least waited until then to re-list...
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Believe me, I understand why you would feel that way. It is a fine balance where you feel like you are in a relationship with a seller, whether it is a person or a store, and you feel there should be loyalty. I totally understand how you feel.

I just wasn''t sure if you knew that he never really stopped listing it; on Craigslist, your posting only lasts seven days, and you are forced to relist it every week or whenever you think about it.

He just needs to keep it up there in case you decide against the ring.
 
OK, I guess I overreacted and no I didn''t want to make another viewing appointment until after I had the $$ from GOG.

I would still want to go the escrow.com way for purchase anyway. He and I had agreed on that earlier.
 
isabel, up above you said you have to see the ring again to really know...

so when are you going to see it again to really know? does he know that you want to see it again?

confused...
 
I understand why he would relist it. It''s not like he has a firm offer on the table. It would be crazy for him NOT to relist it. Kind of like real estate, would you take your house off the market if there is an interested party?? Nah you wouldn''t.
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Date: 8/28/2006 5:37:26 PM
Author: Kaleigh
I understand why he would relist it. It''s not like he has a firm offer on the table. It would be crazy for him NOT to relist it. Kind of like real estate, would you take your house off the market if there is an interested party?? Nah you wouldn''t.
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ditto, even when someone requests a second showing you still leave the house on the market, no sold sign in the yard until contracts are signed
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it really shouldn''t matter whether or not he''s relisting it, you still have to decide if you even want it. Once you''ve agree and made a deposit then i can seem him pulling the listing. Are you going to have it shipped back so you can see it again?
 
I absolutely would have relisted it too if I did not have a definite committment to buy - I just put that up there to try to give you some motivation!
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Sometimes that can help you to realize if you really want something- if you realize you may lose it if you don''t do something fast. If you still feel ambivalent, then maybe hold off and look at other options that may make you happier!
 
Date: 8/28/2006 5:44:02 PM
Author: :)
I absolutely would have relisted it too if I did not have a definite committment to buy - I just put that up there to try to give you some motivation!
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Sometimes that can help you to realize if you really want something- if you realize you may lose it if you don''t do something fast. If you still feel ambivalent, then maybe hold off and look at other options that may make you happier!
OK, I''m a little slow on the uptake (read here, a lot slow!!!) , but you were all yanking my chain to see if you could give me the push I seem to need- lots of hints posted that I obviously didn''t "clue into" until :) put the actual info up here and I lost it bigtime
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Yes, you all provided lots of valid reasons why the seller has every right to re-list while we''re still negotiating and I swallowed the bait- hook, line and sinker ( sorry for all the cliches). In fact, I was angry enough to e-mail the seller to ask if, since he had re-listed the ring, he was open to further negotiation. (The answer was "no").

Now that you have me motivated, perhaps you could work on DH who definitely doesn''t want to go through that line-up at the border anytime soon. I know, I know that''s MY job, but you''re all SO GOOD AT IT!!!!
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Isabel, is there anyone else who could take you? Friend, relative?
 
This is certainly an interesting story to follow. But my question is with the seller. Is this seller reliable? I question someone who lists on Craigslist and says, "make me an offer". Is the seller a jeweler? Are you able to take the stone to an appraiser or anything to be sure about what you are getting? I would be quite concerned about it, as it is not like you can just send it back if you change your mind (or can you?)

I would certainly proceed with caution however nice the stone may appear to be.
 
Date: 8/28/2006 9:25:18 PM
Author: Beacon
This is certainly an interesting story to follow. But my question is with the seller. Is this seller reliable? I question someone who lists on Craigslist and says, ''make me an offer''. Is the seller a jeweler? Are you able to take the stone to an appraiser or anything to be sure about what you are getting? I would be quite concerned about it, as it is not like you can just send it back if you change your mind (or can you?)

I would certainly proceed with caution however nice the stone may appear to be.
Very good questions, Beacon.

The seller is with a large real estate investment company called Hines. From their site, it appears that they deal in commercial buildings.

I was not familiar with Craigslist before it was mentioned on PS as it is not as well known here in Canada as in the US. I think this seller had previously listed the ring on eBay and had also left it on consignment with at least one jeweler with whom I was in contact. I should add here that the ring became available after a broken engagement.

Before I asked to see the ring, it was appraised by Nancy Stacy, an independent appraiser with a great reputation in CA.

If I proceed with the transaction, it would be using escrow.com with the stipulation that I have a viewing period before the money is released to the seller.

I hope I''ve answered your questions, but if you see any red flags here, please let me know.
 
Date: 8/28/2006 6:33:00 PM
Author: Ellen
Isabel, is there anyone else who could take you? Friend, relative?
Great idea, Ellen. Our two kids are at cottages with their families so I can''t count on them. I''m contacting friends tonight as well.
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An update:

DH being the sweetie he is has agreed to go back to Buffalo for a final look at the 3c asscher ring before it goes back to CA. He has emphasized that this will be the last time he will travel all that way to "look at a small piece of old carbon". He has such a way with words. LOL

We''ll probably be going either tomorrow or at the beginning of next week. This time I hope there won''t be as many people looking over my shoulder. I''m also looking forward to taking more pics while we''re there.

Yep, I''m excited but also a bit nervous as this will be a lot of $$$ if I decide to buy it.
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As a side-note, I just noticed that both Pearlman''s and DBOF are no longer advertising the Daniel K line
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If I were you, I would make a list of things you didn''t notice/don''t remember from the first viewing. Things that are most important to you. Then zero in on them and don''t pay attention to anyone else. You''ve GOT to make this visit count.
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And good luck!
 
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