What would your choice be?

[gk172]

Im trying to choose a stone since i have now chosen my setting and so far getting lost as to which stone would be best for me, its getting set in yellow gold and it will be 1ct give or take a little, ive picked up that i need a good cut so at the moment im looking at table 62-72% and depth 63-76% but where im still a bit unsure is the colour and clarity and dont want to go overkill when its not needed hence im using a poll for peoples opinions.

All help given i will be gratefull for as i need to make this decision as it will be like an online purchase and need to hopefully get my choice down so i know what im looking for.

Thank you in advance

 

[InlovewithJHK]

I picked G VS2 because that is what I have and I love it! However, I would also have picked G SI1 because if its eyeclean, I think it is a better, cheaper option for the same look.

 

[Ellen]

I would get a G SI1.

 

[gk172]

Thank you both

My main concern is the ring will be yellow gold with hopefully platinum or white gold head or wont that matter tooo much?

PS Has anybody voted yet? when i click view results nothing shows

 

[peridot83]

Well with yellow gold, some on this forum believes that actually HELPS mask color in the stone because it doesn''t provide the contrast that a white metal with the diamond would. But with a G or an H, I don''t think you really have to worry about it. The only place you''d see the color is on the sides, and even then only color sensitive people can tell (its not actually "yellower" its just....less icy if that makes any sense). Here''s a good comparison if you haven''t seen it already:

http://www.goodoldgold.com/4Cs/Color/NearColorless/

(also keep in mind, that you''ll never be viewing your diamond next to a D graded diamond, upside down, on a white background)

 

[gk172]

Thank you for your posts on the other poll that i mucked up

and asked for the original to be deleted. Yes that did help you could see the colour differances and D looks lovely but would anyone notice - nope and its not worth the extra $s for the D status, at the moment i looking possibly a g with slight flourecence and then see what the vs/i status is but that will probably change by dinner time

 

[Ellen]

Date: 5/4/2007 7:28:11 AM
Author: gk172

PS Has anybody voted yet? when i click view results nothing shows

For some reason, some people have trouble viewing results on polls.

You have:

G VS2 4

H VS2 3

Another combo 2

 

[gk172]

Ha ha i had to vote myself to see the results

thanks for showing me. Im still trailling through stones at the moment compiling a list of differant ones so hopefully that will help also to put things in order.

 

[gk172]

Here are some of the choices i have selected within budget, all are either premium or ideal cuts:

D SI1 with slight flourecence $4166 (gia) (slightly over budget worth it?)
F SI1 with slight flourecence $3766 (eglusa)
H SI1 with slight flourecence $3110 (egl)
or
H VS2 with slight flourecence $3486 (gia)
H VS1 with slight flourecence $3325 (eglusa)

What do you think of that lot?

 

[peridot83]

Where are you getting the stone listings from? (forgive me if the below is stuff you already know)

Don't trust "ideal" or "vg" if it just says that next to the cut, the jeweler gets to make that up.

The real test would be first:
Table 60-72
Crown 8.5-16
Depth 64-75

If they are all in that range. Then EGL isn't as strict a lab as GIA, so you have to figure their color grades and inclusion grades are a lot more loose. Once you decide on that, you'll need to see idealscope and Aset images if possible of the diamonds to see what their actual light return is and not just a vague predictor based on some #s.

Fancy shapes are often duds in person, even though they have great numbers. If the diamonds are in house, they should be able to give you the above information.

In the princess dept, AGS has done an awesome job of creating hearts and arrows princesses that take a lot of the guess work out of trying to find a good fancy cut.


If you don't want to go through all that work, I'm pretty sure that you can pay to get an AGS princess at either:

www.whiteflash.com or www.exceldiamonds.com or www.goodoldgold.com or any PS vendor.

If you're going through a B & M store, request to get sourced AGS princesses

You can also try searching using the search by cut feature, under "Prices" at the top of the website.

 

[pyramid]

My own preference is VS1. I do think that it is an individual thing and not something someone can choose as best value because it may be best value for them but not you.

I would say a good value would be G or H and VS2 or SI1(SI1 if eyeclean to you). There are others though who want the biggest stone their money can get them so that is best value to them and they may go for I/J SI1/SI2.

I would not say it is best value but I would say that most people would like H SI1 if they were not very into diamonds the way Pricescope people are.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

H is going to be a better value than G regardless of the clarity. It is still near colorless and costs less than G. Clarity is personal, though. I would only want VS myself. VS2 will save you some money, so I voted H VS2. My own ring diamond is H VS1 and my earrings are H VS2. G or H is not an issue in the setting you have chosen, or any setting for that matter.

If you are looking for a princess, I''d look for an AGS0 stone and start with Good Old Gold and WhiteFlash as they are reputable and usually carry a nice selection.

 

[iheartscience]

I would try to go for G SI1, since that''s what I have. It''s completely eyeclean. I think an H SI1 (eyeclean again) would be fine, too. However, what''s more important than color or clarity is the cut.

I think you should have Whiteflash or Goodoldgold (or another Pricescope vendor) get you an extremely well cut princess, graded by AGS or GIA. EGL is definitely known as being more loose with their color and clarity grades, which is why EGL graded diamonds are usually less expensive than AGS or GIA graded ones.

 

[gk172]

Thank you all

Where do i start with replies first im uk based coming to florida for 2 weeks so that rules a few things out ie diamonds getting sent to me etc and ive picked abazias to hopefully make the purchase and pick the ring up, i have included in the search the table and depth and they were some that was thrown up, i also have only included gia and egl but ignored egl belgium and isreal but happy to stick to just gia if thats recomended.

 

[neatfreak]

I picked G VS2 because it''s my "mind clean" color and clarity. But I would also take a very eye clean SI1 from a reputable vendor too.

I have a G VS2 and I''m glad we dropped a bit in color and clarity, but since I am somewhat color sensitive, I could see a bit of warmth from the side with an H that I didn''t like. But to most people H''s face up very white and especially in yellow gold you really should be fine with an H too.

 

[pyramid]

Date: 5/4/2007 10:38:23 AM
Author: gk172
Thank you all

Where do i start with replies first im uk based coming to florida for 2 weeks so that rules a few things out ie diamonds getting sent to me etc and ive picked abazias to hopefully make the purchase and pick the ring up, i have included in the search the table and depth and they were some that was thrown up, i also have only included gia and egl but ignored egl belgium and isreal but happy to stick to just gia if thats recomended.

http://www.infinitydiamonds.be/

The above link is for one of the vendors on this site Paul Sleggers, he writes on the forum under the name Paul-Antwerp, he also does web broadcasts on the screens you can see on the rockytalky pages like some other vendors here do. He has wonderful looking AGS0 Princess Cuts and is based in Antwerp but he has vendors in America, Wink on the forum here is one of them, I think he is at the opposite side of America from Florida, however there are other vendors in USA. Whiteflash also has wonderful princess cut diamonds.


In this link from the webinars on this site you can see Wink showing the Infinity princess cuts
http://vyou.pricescope.com/player.aspx?recID=01b601a9-1a59-4851-afbf-fc262b249c21

 

[peridot83]

Are you planning to have the diamond picked on one website and shipped to Abazias to set? Or were you planning to get the diamond from Abazias as well?

Considering your time frame, you may just want to call abazias and see what they have in house in a G or H VS2 princess in your price range, get the idealscopes and post em on the board and we can help you choose. If they don't have anything, would you be prepared to buy the diamond form whiteflash and shipped to Abazias to be set?

If the idealscopes/sarins seems very involved, if they have any AGS 0 Princess cuts in you price range you could probably just trust that.

 

[hikerchick]

I have a H VS2 with strong blue fluor and LOVE it. I voted H VS2 because difference between G and H is negligible and a VS2 has almost always been completely eye-clean even to my hawk eyes.

 

[gk172]

The good thing hopefully is i have some time we dont go for about 7 weeks so im doing the ground work now and i cant hold a diamond for that length of time, abazias seem to have loads listed on the site i just posted 5 out of the 10 i have listed here as i have a problem justifing spending money on myself but im still searching

 

[gk172]

Carat Weight: 1.01 Color: D Clarity: VS2 Depth%: 79.1 Table %: 67.0 Symmetry: G Cert: GIA Polish: VG Girdle: XTN Culet: - Fluorescence: S Measurements: 5.52x5.19x4.11 Cut Grade: Very Good

What do you think of that one?

 

[hikerchick]

Date: 5/4/2007 11:58:34 AM
Author: gk172
Carat Weight: 1.01 Color: D Clarity: VS2 Depth%: 79.1 Table %: 67.0 Symmetry: G Cert: GIA Polish: VG Girdle: XTN Culet: - Fluorescence: S Measurements: 5.52x5.19x4.11 Cut Grade: Very Good


What do you think of that one?

I would be careful of that extra thin girdle . . . also is this a princess cut?

 

[belle]

anything with an extremely thin girdle needs to be evaluated by a professional in person.

 

[gk172]

Thank you yes it is a princess cut so i will write that one off then

What about this?

Carat Weight: 1.01 Color: F Clarity: SI1 Depth%: 71.9 Table %: 72.0 Symmetry: G Cert: GIA Polish: EX Girdle: STK-TK Culet: N Fluorescence: F Measurements: 5.46x5.45x3.92 Cut Grade: Premium

 

[belle]

it''s difficult to play the guessing game of ''nice looking princess'' when all you have are depth and table percentages. they are better than nothing at all but i wouldn''t want to make any decisions by that alone.

best of luck!

 

[InlovewithJHK]

Date: 5/4/2007 9:41:23 AM
Author: Pyramid
My own preference is VS1. I do think that it is an individual thing and not something someone can choose as best value because it may be best value for them but not you.


I would say a good value would be G or H and VS2 or SI1(SI1 if eyeclean to you). There are others though who want the biggest stone their money can get them so that is best value to them and they may go for I/J SI1/SI2.


I would not say it is best value but I would say that most people would like H SI1 if they were not very into diamonds the way Pricescope people are.

Its funny but I think I am more likely to go for a SI diamond now than before PS... before I didn''t really know that you can have a beautiful eyeclean SI1 and that is could look banging for less money! Before I would only consider a vvs or vs at most.

 

[peridot83]

We really do need the idealscope/aset & pictures before we can give any real advice. Call them up or e-mail them, and ask to have idealscopes/aset pics of any in house diamonds that match the criteria you have. (or you can list the ones you want)

Then post em here and we can help ya out

Yes be very wary of thin girdles if you''re not going through an extremley trusty vender...diamond may chip easily!!

 

[risingsun]

I chose a G VS2 and have been very please with my diamond. Just another opinion for you

 

[gk172]

Cheers im appreciating all opinions

Also taking what has been mentioned re idealscopes/aset pics does it cost to request these? Or should i wait and request these maybe the week before i go to florida, excuse my lack of knowledge here.

 

[kcoursolle]

H/SI1 would be a great combination between quality and price. H stones are very white and you can barely tell the difference in color unless you are comparing them with higher color diamonds. Many SI1''s are eye clean, so why pay for clarity under a microscope. A IF and an eye-clean SI1 (some SI2''s as well) will often show no visible differences in clarity.

 

[gk172]

Thank you all, i have emailed abazias with a selection of various colours and claritys and i will post back when i have that info

This is the setting here and it will be yellow gold.