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What should I choose F or I color with Medium Blue Fluor

cachia85

cachia85

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Please help me people. So I still can't decide to choose which from the following two:
1) 0.56 F VS2 $1444
http://www2.gia.edu/reportcheck/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.showReportVerification&reportno=2121458877&weight=0.56
(The vendor has check for me that the strong blue fluor doesn't have negative effect on clarity)
2)0.62 I VS2 $1264
http://www2.gia.edu/reportcheck/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.showReportVerification&reportno=2121490318&weight=0.62

Will the size difference is noticeable? And how will the I color (with MBF) compare with F color stone? I read from GOG that I will still face up very white when set. I really don't know which one should I choose, if you were me which one will you pick?
 
How color sensitive are you? Do not depend on the MBF to do much for the color as fluor is only activated in the presence of UV.

The size difference is 0.3mm, quite noticeable.

I would go with I, mainly because I am color insensitive.
 
What are you doing with the stone? I have a BGD J stone and it faces up pretty white to me (I guess I'm not color sensitive).
 
depends on what you are using this for? e-ring? pendant? will you bezel? or prongs.

I'm usually a lower color gal, plus bigger ctw and its a nice bang for the bucks with fluoro but when it comes with Strong Blue... I'm a little wary of it just personal preference (and Havinging only seen one Strong blue-put a bad taste in my mouth moving forward :sick: :wacko:) so I tend to avoid them, faint or medium blue I would reconsider.
 
What is it for?
 
It is for e-ring and it will be set in a simple classic 4 prongs white gold ring. I also think 0.3mm is quite noticeable as I can see a 4.9mm stone is clearly bigger than a 4.7mm stone 8-}.
 
if the vendor has a good return policy? no restock fee or anything like that? size difference will be noticeable.... Sorry I just reread your post about medium blue I instead of strong blue... I would then get the I color- larger, & less $.

So my vote is NO F Strong Blue,.... Go with the I.... can this get anymore convulted for yah...lol? :errrr:
 
I always vote for bigger. When a stone is set and on your finger I think the size is more noticeable than the color. But expect to see a hint of warmth in some lighting situations. If you can live with that you should be fine with an I.
 
Thank you everyone, so I see all of you vote for the bigger one :D.
The vendor has very good return policy, the only fee I have to pay is the cost of sending it back. My main concern is my bf seems to like the colorless range, my friends and my family and his family have only D-F stones so I'm afraid that when I stay next to them my stone will look too yellowish (I know I shouldn't care about that but I can't help). I went to a B&M shop here but people there just want me to look at F color stone, when I ask about I color to see how difference between them they said they don't have and they gave me a master stone to compare with and it is very yellow! I think the stone they gave me must be at least L color and above so I just left and still wonder how tinted is an I color diamond.
 
I really don't think an I is terribly tinted... I have an I and J color very close to your GIA specs too, but in a .30ct. it faces up pretty darn white sparkly too. Are the other gals, diamond cut darn near perfect? or is it poorly cut? if latter, then your diamond will outperform them ;))
 
The other gals have AGS 0 diamonds and those from our family are ACA WF :((. But their are smaller than mine :D (we're group of poor grad students haha)
 
The I hands down.

Given nothing else is 'wrong', I always vote size!
 
Honey! That is rather a large size to start off with (I had a .40ct to start me off :cheeky: ). Also will this be upgradable in the future?
 
Unfortunately it's not upgradable, I go with Blue Nile... Actually it's already an "upgrade" as I bought an 0.37 D IF and return it because it's so small and I keep thinking with the money we paid we could get bigger stone and still look the same to my eye (I hope).
 
D&T! How can you do that to me! I bought the diamond before I know about PS, then I always love GOG stone but I think I can't afford it, their setting is expensive and if I ask for a refund from BN to buy from GOG then I will have to pay tax again. Btw, the one from GOG looks really really nice, if only I'd known it before...
 
cachia85|1290207248|2773485 said:
Thank you everyone, so I see all of you vote for the bigger one :D.
The vendor has very good return policy, the only fee I have to pay is the cost of sending it back. My main concern is my bf seems to like the colorless range, my friends and my family and his family have only D-F stones so I'm afraid that when I stay next to them my stone will look too yellowish (I know I shouldn't care about that but I can't help). I went to a B&M shop here but people there just want me to look at F color stone, when I ask about I color to see how difference between them they said they don't have and they gave me a master stone to compare with and it is very yellow! I think the stone they gave me must be at least L color and above so I just left and still wonder how tinted is an I color diamond.
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Um, you saw a I color master stone and thought it was "very yellow"? Did the store have a gemologist working there? Was he or she a GIA graduate? At worst, that master stone is a low I color, or mid-level J. I can't imagine any company producing severely flawed master stones.

I would be very concerned if you thought the I color was "very yellow". The flouro isn't going to cover up that yellow, and it definitely isn't going to look like a colorless stone. Flouro only shows up in situations where there is UV on it (so under UV lights, sun light, regular lights with some UV content, which is not all lights) - and depending on the UV level, med flouro produces at best a mild blu-ish hue, even in the dark with a UV light directly on it.

I'm all for a bigger stone, but I understand your concern with family and friends having D-F ACA's. An I is going to look tinted next to theirs, and even without their stones for comparison, you may be very color sensitive. Is the yellow you saw going to bother *you*?

Personally, I thought I could handle an I color for my ering but when I saw it in person, I couldn't. I would have no problem with it for another ring though. This is a personal choice but I would go see a few more I's. Of course, the vendor you're using has a great return policy, so you can always just bring it in to see for yourself.
 
Iota15, thank for your ideal. I'm also worried that I am very color sensitive as when I look at an F upside down I also see that it's somehow tinted, when I saw it face up I don't see any difference between it and D color.

The shop I went doesn't have gemologist working there. There were only some sale ladies so maybe they made a mistake. I am really confused, when I look at photos of I/J stone of people on PS I see they are white. But at the shop when I look at an G color from side I see it's already tinted :knockout: . I don't know if diamonds at the shop are bad cut or the my monitor has color problems.
 
It's too hard to go by pictures over a monitor to determine color. Even the large N color posted recently looks very white to me face-up. While your monitor may be skewing the color, people take photos in different conditions and lighting too (under the blue sky, or a green umbrella, for example). You also never know if people tend to post the whiter/clearer photos of their stone - leaving out the more tinted ones.

You are not going to view your stone upsidedown on a piece of white paper. You are however, going to see your stone set and in person. What is important is how these colors look to you in person, not over PS. If the tint bothers you, you'll have to go for the F (or maybe a G). It'd great if it doesn't because the I is larger.

You said you saw the tint in a G. How large was the stone? (the larger, the more apparent the color, because the color has more stone to pass through). Did it bother you?

Go find and try on a bunch of I colors. If it bothers your sensitivities now, it's probably not going to get any better with time.
 
By the way, D&T's GOG suggestion is really pretty.
 
iota15|1290212432|2773567 said:
It's too hard to go by pictures over a monitor to determine color. Even the large N color posted recently looks very white to me face-up. While your monitor may be skewing the color, people take photos in different conditions and lighting too (under the blue sky, or a green umbrella, for example). You also never know if people tend to post the whiter/clearer photos of their stone - leaving out the more tinted ones.

You are not going to view your stone upsidedown on a piece of white paper. You are however, going to see your stone set and in person. What is important is how these colors look to you in person, not over PS. If the tint bothers you, you'll have to go for the F (or maybe a G). It'd great if it doesn't because the I is larger.

You said you saw the tint in a G. How large was the stone? (the larger, the more apparent the color, because the color has more stone to pass through). Did it bother you?

Go find and try on a bunch of I colors. If it bothers your sensitivities now, it's probably not going to get any better with time.
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Thank you iota15, your analysis is so helpful for me. Based on what you said about photos on screen and what I saw with my own eyes I think I'd stay with the F. The G that I looked at is only 0.5ct and the tint does bother me. The stone that D&T recommend is so yummy!
 
Ok, so I have both f and I coloured stones. My I's are the same size you are looking at and they look white 95% of the time. The only time they look a little tinted is when i am holding them next to my F in dim lighting and on a tilt.

My bathroom is yellow and they don't look any more yellow than the F does under the bright light.

Here are some comparison pics of my ring (F) and earrings (I's). Under bright lights they don't look any different to me.

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/hot-martinis.151916/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/hot-martinis.151916/[/URL]

I am all for size so i would go the I as well. :)) But it does depend on how sensitive to colour you are so i really feel that you need to figure that out for yourself before you decide on the lower colour.
 
Thanks for your input hawaiianorangetree! I still remember your gorgeous earrings, yes they are so beautiful and white, I also commented in your thread about your hot martini's :D. Hum, now you make me think harder and harder about what to choose...
 
cachia85|1290236169|2773815 said:
Stone-cold11|1290217937|2773623 said:
This looks promising if eye-clean. Ask for an idealscope image if interested?

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-SI1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1338497.asp
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Ya, it does sound nice, I will ask JA for more information. Thanks a lot Stone-cold11!
ETA when I saw the AGS report I think it has too much green at the boundary of the diamond, do you think it's ok to be so?
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Probably nothing to worry about, maybe just a scanning error. Idealscope image will tell more.
 
I find this:
0.58 E SI1 eye clean $1437
Round Brilliant
Measurements: 5.38 - 5.40 x 3.33 mm
Carat Weight: 0.58 carat
Color Grade: E
Clarity Grade: SI1
Cut Grade: Excellent
Proportions:
Depth: 61.8%
Table: 56%
Crown Angle: 34.5°
Crown Height: 15.0%
Pavilion Angle: 41.0°
Pavilion Depth: 43.5%
Star length: 60%
Lower Half: 75%
Girdle: Thin to Medium, Faceted
Culet: None
Finish:
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Fluorescence: None
Clarity Characteristics:
Crystal, Feather
Additional Inscription: [Isee2 symbol] BA69969635

Do you think it is a good deal?
 
Isee2 stones are quite nice from what I have seen on GOG but they are no longer in business.

Proportions looks promising.
 
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