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What do you think of a GOG H&A diamond with I1 clarity?

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What's your thoughts on this diamond?
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/6050/

This diamond perfectly meets my budget of <$4000. It's exactly what would be expected of a GOG diamond except it has an I1 clarity. I'm being told it is very eye-clean but I'd like your thoughts on what you guys think about the types of inclusions that are on this diamond. How do the other spec's look? The price point makes it very attractive to me.

Much appreciated
 
the cut and color are excellent. I think that- from the pics- the surface graining is not that noticable. IF GOG says it is eyeclean, and you defined what you call "eyeclean" I think it might be a great deal. I think the stellar cut and color might be masking the graining. Does the graining break the surface? Will it feel rough? Is it visible from top down, or at a tilt?


It's really about what yuo are comfortable with. I think it might work, but maybe more expert posters can chime in.
 
Well I'm still relatively new at this, but as long as I cannot see any inclusions with the naked eye, I'd be happy. I'd like to know what other questions are good to ask the dealer about this particular diamond?
 
Maybe get it shipped out to you before it is set, to see if you like it? If eye-clean to your specs could be a great choice. You could ask if the inclusions affect the light return or if the feather is a durability risk.
 
Since the cloud is the grade making inclusion, I would ask how the cloud affects the clarity of the crystal, scintillation, liveliness of the stone. Clouds may cause parts of the diamond to go "dead".
 
HI:

I've owned two Ideal AGS0 H/A stones, both I1 clarity. They were stunning! The inclusions did not adversley effect the visual appeal, nor did they propose a setting risk. See the stone IRL and decide from there. Good luck!

cheers--Sharon
 
What skinny little arrows and narrow tiny hearts! This cutting style is a matter of taste, but the ISEE2 results also show that they affect the light performance.

I think this is the first GOG H&A RB that I've seen that doesn't do better than 9.0 on that scale. I don't know what that means in terms of how much the light performance is affected, but it does mean that it's not as good WRT LP as a H&A with this type of pattern: http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/7560/

I'd investigate further...
 
I love the look of that stone and if I had a use for it I'd already have it. In fact I started a thread about it a while back just to ask questions about the very long lower girdle facets. I wonder if Rhino would do a video of that stone alongside one with LGF's in the mid 70's. That would be interesting.
 
I wouldn't buy an I1, because clarity is more important to me than the average PSer. Just personal preference. The diamond actually looks quite beautiful and has GOG's approval, so it's up to you to decide whether I1 is mind-clean for you, even if it is eye-clean. For me it would not be.
 
The grade making inclusion being a cloud, plus the lower ISEE2 score, would make me a smidge concerned about the cloud affecting light return. A ginormous cloud can definitely affect light performance, and since it's the grade maker, I'd ask about that.

Personally I'm not a huge fan of the super-duper extra long 85% LGF look, with the skinny skinny arrows, but that's kind of a personal preference thing. I prefer fatter arrows and LGFs, which make fewer but chunkier fire flashes, rather than the faster scintillation / fewer but more frequent pinfire type flashes that you'd likely get with this style of cutting. Again, totally personal preference IMO as far as that goes.

I'd definitely get an I1 if it is eye clean enough and doesn't affect performance.

In this particular case you might consider dropping color some to get an SI clarity instead. In under 1ct sizes, personally I can't really see much difference in colorless vs. near colorless if the stone is set. So if this were me, I'd probably look for a G/H/I color with SI clarity and fatter/shorter LGFs.
 
canuk-gal|1291308573|2785167 said:
HI:

I've owned two Ideal AGS0 H/A stones, both I1 clarity. They were stunning! The inclusions did not adversley effect the visual appeal, nor did they propose a setting risk. See the stone IRL and decide from there. Good luck!

cheers--Sharon
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agree. You need to see it in real life to see if it will bother you.
 
I bought an I1 and the inclusion is unnoticeable unless it's at a certain angle. Plus even when I see the large feather, it doesn't bother me. But it's a personal preference and I wouldn't have this GOG stone set until I saw it in person to make sure the inclusions didn't bother me. If the high color is very important to you this might be the way to get high color in a larger size. Personally I would bring the color and clarity closer——lower color and higher clarity. But that's just me, I prefer more of a balance.

But the cut of the stone looks quite nice.
 
I had orignally wanted something at least SI1 and would settle for a lower color of at least I. But the main thing that attracted me was the price point. It seems any diamond in this cut and caret size is at least $5000. If anybody can find something similar that is cheaper, that'd be great!

Anyways, I'm waiting for GOG to make a video of the diamond. Than I'll be able to tell how it looks.
 
Here's a video of the diamond
http://www.vimeo.com/17448139


0.95 E I1 on left
1 F SI1 on the right

Can't really tell the difference between the two and don't seem to notice any inclusions. Anyone with a better eye out there able to spot anything?
 
If I were you I wouldn't buy this diamond whithout seeing it first. You should ask them to send it out to you before it is set...the cloud shows on the picture but on the video it's hard to say if it affects the brilliance.
 
I just took a look at the video, and I think the stone looks great. You are right -- it's a great price point for a stone that size and color. And that is a hard-to-find carat weight, too.

It's got GOG's lifetime guarantee, so I believe that means it's eligible for GOG's upgrade policies. It also means that someone from GOG (Jonathan?) thought it was nice enough to put in their inventory and give it their guarantee.

I own an I1 clarity diamond (super-ideal cut). The only time the clarity bothers me is when I spend too much time on Pricescope :cheeky: ! People here are way pickier than your average diamond consumer.

In my experience, people see the size and sparkle of the diamond first, then the color, and unless it is a large diamond with black carbon spots, most people will never get close enough to your ring to pick out the inclusions in your stone.

I do not see the inclusions in the video, but that doesn't mean that you won't see them in some lighting conditions at some angles. That's why you need to see an I1 in person. But my hunch is that this stone is a winner and you got a great deal on a beautifully cut stone in a high color and a rare carat weight!
 
I'm sorry but an I1 lower than 1 ct for $4000? Never for me...
 
Frenchcut|1291487268|2787328 said:
If I were you I wouldn't buy this diamond whithout seeing it first. You should ask them to send it out to you before it is set...the cloud shows on the picture but on the video it's hard to say if it affects the brilliance.
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yeah, can you get them to send it to you before it is set, just to make sure you like it? it looks great from the video but I think it would be wise to examine it in person just to make sure you are OK with it
 
I'm thinking of having the stone sent straight to WF to do the setting. It would save me a lot of hassle of extra freight and duties.

I've seen a video of the stone at a closeup. What would I pick up if I had the stone in person that I wouldn't otherwise have seen in the video?
 
well, you may look at it closer up than in the video? or from the side? maybe ask GOG if it is eye-clean to your specs (distance of viewing, top down or from the side also)
 
After reading this thread I'd have to pass because I'm particularly not a fan of clouds. I often wonder whether they're plotted or not just how much clouds affect light performance. Clouds are one of the reasons clarity is a mind clean issue for me. And if it's the grade setting inclusion then I definitely wouldn't buy it. Who knows, though, YMMV, and it is a good price for a stone with relatively good (although not to everyone's taste) cut stone at that size.
 
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