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kenny

kenny

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I got this bracelet for one dollar at a garage sale.
I suspect it's old and worth more than a buck.
Of course I can't wear it, but for a buck what the heck!

What can you tell me about it form these pics I took?


I think those four "screws" are not really screws, just decorative.
Also the keyhole is just decorative.
There never was a key.

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Stamped into this part is the numbers, 9 375.



Every other link has these designs stamped into it.



Every link of the bracelet has the number 6 (or 9) stamped onto it.

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9 .375....is 9 carat gold.
 
Um... I might be wrong, but I think it's a bracelet with some sort of heart thingy.
;))
 
missydebby said:
Um... I might be wrong, but I think it's a bracelet with some sort of heart thingy.
;))
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Debbi, what would I do without you? :tongue:
 
wooo hooo.... could it be that?!? Ken, you're amazing... man do you have a good eye
 
I think it is Victorian rose gold (9K) from the late 1890 and the key could be missing .
 
If you can't wear it, I will double your price paid and I WILL wear it! :bigsmile:

Seriously, that is a beautiful find. Congratulations!! Several years ago I bought a big Waterford pitcher at a garage sale for $1.
 
What a great find! It's beautiful. I can't believe you found it for one dollar, lol! I love it!
 
the quote from Birmingham assay office in UK:
"The date letters below show the background shape for silver. The same letters were used for Gold, which has been marked in Birmingham since 1824, but with a background of a square with cut corners. There may be some variations in backgrounds during the late 19th century, especially on watch cases. "


The link:
http://www.theassayoffice.co.uk/date_letters.html

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Where else in the world can you post a mystery and have it solved in less than 4 hours? Kenny, please keep going to garage sales!
 
Kenny, judging from the other similar bracelet you found online, I guess it really is a bracelet -- but at first I wondered if it had been a watch chain sometime in its life. The company listing says they also made watches, which in those days would've been pocket watches.

I thought of it because I have the bracelet below (horribly filthy!) that belonged to my aunt. She had it made into a bracelet -- it was originally her father's watch chain. 9 ct gold also.

--- Laurie

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Wow, that is a sweet bracelet! I was going to say the hallmarks are British but looks like the super sleuths have already solved it. Brilliant!
 
It is a bracelet.
Look at the similar theme of design of every other link between the two

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Thanks all for the input.
Looks like I got a killer deal.
When I saw it I really thought it was just copper.
In person, it looks much more like copper than gold.

Here are others with prices quite a bit higher than a buck :bigsmile: :

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VINTAGE-9-CAR...ps=63&clkid=5563189818578902960#ht_8932wt_913

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Antique-Heart-Padlock-Bracelet-9k-9ct-Genuine-Rose-Gold-/270635580001

These also have the decoration of every other link, and are 9 ct.

I'm really curious now about the date it was made.

I found this date chart for Birmingham silver - but not sure if it's the same for gold
1883 was i, but surrounded by an oval shield.



Close up of the chart and my heart's date mark.
Look at the i for 1901.

http://www.925-1000.com/dlc_sheffield.html

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Wow, cool.
Amazing how similar they are.
Looks like that one lost the top moving part of the padlock.

There's the maker W&H.S again.

Doc, your link explains these were kind of like chastity belts.

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The story of the padlock or "gate" bracelet is one that seems to have a little history and a little folklore in it.
It is said that the reason these bracelets were given was because one wanted their lover or wife to know that they loved them a lot with the heart shaped padlock.
The other part of the story is a little murky but it seems to have some truth behind it.
It was told from generation to generation that when a gentleman went off to war or to travel afar, he would leave the bracelet locked around her wrist and he would hold the key until he got back.
This symbol of love would show others gentlemen that the woman was theirs. Sort of like a wrist chastity belt.
 
Doc_1 said:
the quote from Birmingham assay office in UK:
"The date letters below show the background shape for silver. The same letters were used for Gold, which has been marked in Birmingham since 1824, but with a background of a square with cut corners. There may be some variations in backgrounds during the late 19th century, especially on watch cases. "


The link:
http://www.theassayoffice.co.uk/date_letters.html

[]http://www.theassayoffice.co.uk/date_letters.html[]
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Oh my bad.
Based on the link in Doc's quote (now that I finally read closely) the date must be 1908, since they explained the shield's shape used for gold is square with cut corners - just like on my heart.
Plus doc's link described a lower-case g as 1906; therefor 1908 for a lower-case i makes sense.

Thanks Doc1.
So in conclusion (so far) this 9-ct gold bracelet is 102 years old, made by (perhaps) Walker and Hall in Sheffield England in 1908, and assayed in Birmingham England (indicated by the anchor stamp).

I wonder whether cleaning it lowers its value.

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Wow, Kenny, it's really beautiful.
 
I don't think they ever made anything gold that was 9K
 
billyboo said:
I don't think they ever made anything gold that was 9K
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Who do you mean by "they"?

What's normal for gold qualities depends on what country you're in and time period. In the UK high street jewellery shops sells 9K and 18K gold. In the US chain jewellery shops sell 10K, 14K, and 18K. I collect antique and vintage rings and have a few that are hallmarked for 15K and 20K.
 
Lovely find, Kenny! The markings on the links are very cool.
 
in the US I meant..nothing below 10K which means it's likely from overseas someplace. I like it. Good $1 buy, Kenny
 
I love this. It's like an episode of Antiques Road Show.
 
That’s a popular bracelet style from the 1880’s all the way through WWI and it's a classic late Victorian piece. It looks to be in good condition (often the hinge and the catch on the locket are messed up on these), the markings indicate 9k and UK origin, which I believe but obviously I haven’t tested anything, and the style has been described nicely above. Good use of $1.
 
Wow, amazing find!! Congratulations! :bigsmile:
 
Kenny
Very interesting conversation with the owner of the antique jewelery place i linked to in a previous post, i think her name was Jane. I asked her if she has a key she said all the bracelet she has are without key and said good luck if you find one it will be very rare.
I will suggest to go back where you got it from if they are still around and it was not a moving sale and ask them about the key hopefully they may have it still.
 
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