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Bayek

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H Annette, thank you and please you stay healthy and happy in your neck of the woods :)

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Hi,

Tekate-- DT often does this--very often. He says ,"everyone says", "many people have told me"., ect. .Don't ask him to back it up. To be fair, we do hear things among our families and friends and form opinions from the stories that others tell us. We don't have to back all things that we say or think with a litany of facts.

I hope you stay well.

Annette
 

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Hi Callie,

I hope you are staying well too. I know you are in my neck of the woods, so I'll tell you that my nurse who works for Central Dupage hOSPITAL--aka Northwestern-- says that the hospital is doing quite well. They have CV19 patients who are isolated on a separate floor. If the Docs suspect the virus, they test and put the person in a negative pressure room, which I earned is an isolation room with specialized air controls or filters. If they are negative on the test they go home, but if positive they have already been isolated. They are not overwhelmed.

The hospital instituted safe guards. In the lobby you must wear a mask before you are allowed in. At the next point they take your temperature. She said she was scared at first, but is more relaxed now. She won't come to see me, which is fine by me.

I called my pharmacy to refill my scripts, and found they have disposable gloves. I had some, along with surgical masks from Sars, plus my nurse gave me some, so I am set with my supplies.
Are you able to get gloves? I thought it would be a scarce item.

Just my update here. Walmart is rationing items. I put them in my shopping cart and they disappear almost right away. I feel as if I'm bidding on E-bay.

Best to your husband, that nice fellow who just doesnt want you to trade him in.--A new setting is Ok, but new husband , no no. I like him for saying that to you.

Annette
 

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Easy, just ask your employer. I know many waiters/ waitress ask their employer to lay them off so they can collect unemployment since restaurants can only take to go orders now. They don't receive much tips for to go orders. Unemployment benefits will net more $$$ per month than working.
...Or parents who have kids out of school. People who live with someone high risk or if they themselves are high risk but still at work. The rules have all changed. So yes, some people are trying to figure out if they can get laid off or even quit and still collect. one may be able to collect for a job they never started. Here some union workers want to get laid off but keep their benefits and seniority....and still collect unemployment. It’s interesting at the unemployment office for sure!
 

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...Or parents who have kids out of school. People who live with someone high risk or if they themselves are high risk but still at work. The rules have all changed. So yes, some people are trying to figure out if they can get laid off or even quit and still collect. one may be able to collect for a job they never started. Here some union workers want to get laid off but keep their benefits and seniority....and still collect unemployment. It’s interesting at the unemployment office for sure!
Do you work at the unemployment office? Oh I missed that before. That explains how you know so much about what’s going on.

The company I work for is union. Many of our union employees have worked for our company for 20+ years and are proud to do their jobs.

You must live near a bunch of wretched and lazy people. Do you ever think of moving?
 

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Do you work at the unemployment office? Oh I missed that before. That explains how you know so much about what’s going on.

The company I work for is union. Many of our union employees have worked for our company for 20+ years and are proud to do their jobs.

You must live near a bunch of wretched and lazy people. Do you ever think of moving?
You think people with kids suddenly out of school who now need to be home with them to do school are wretched and lazy?

You think people who have their moms living in their home are wretched and lazy because they’d rather not go to work and risk exposing her? Or if they are high risk themselves you think they are wretched and lazy because they’d rather get laid off than take the risk of getting the virus?

You are calling proud union workers who are scared like the rest of us wretched and lazy?

Because I sure didn’t say like that about people in those situations who now have to figure out if they’re better of working or laid off. People who have been suddenly thrown into homeschooling or with a closed daycare. People actually terrified that going to work may put themselves or a loved one at risk. I in no way even suggested anything like them being wretched and lazy, you did.
I only said all the rules have all changed. These are real situations people are facing and how they are trying to deal with them. And yes the unemployment offices all over the county are taking these questions because it’s the same everywhere.
 

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You think people with kids suddenly out of school who now need to be home with them to do school are wretched and lazy?

You think people who have their moms living in their home are wretched and lazy because they’d rather not go to work and risk exposing her? Or if they are high risk themselves you think they are wretched and lazy because they’d rather get laid off than take the risk of getting the virus?

You are calling proud union workers who are scared like the rest of us wretched and lazy?
The left ain't gonna reply to your Qs.
 

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He knows everyone! Waiters, people on food stamps who loudly crow about how much they love living off the government dole, people taking their citizenship exams. Heck, he has all the time in the world to volunteer with them and manage to be on here 24/7. Renaissance man!
I was on unemployment benefits for 2 months in 1979..:oops: I was laid off b/c the county funded program had ended.
 
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China is sending NY 1000 ventilators.



NEW YORK (AP) — New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Saturday that China is facilitating the shipment of 1,000 ventilators to his state, as he continues to shop for more of the lifesaving devices ahead of a growing number of coronavirus patients who are expected to need them.

The number of people infected in the U.S. has exceeded a quarter-million, with the death toll climbing past 7,000; more than 3,500 of those deaths are in New York state. Cuomo said the ventilators from China were expected to arrive Saturday.

“This is a big deal and it's going to make a significant difference for us,” Cuomo said, adding that the state of Oregon volunteered to send 140 ventilators to New York. Cuomo has also is also looking for ventilators closer to home, and has issued an order that forces even private hospitals in the state to redistribute ventilators to the hospitals most in need.
Help from all over the world. Thank you to everyone involved.
 

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Some people are sure against welfare, but they will accept that Coronavirus check that will hit their bank accounts in a couple of weeks.

Poverty isn’t simply behavioral. There are studies out there that show that the brains of children who live in poverty are smaller than the brains of children who live in more affluent areas. This means that the issues that come from these children as they grow older will be physiological, not behavioral. This fact isn’t new, it is just newly discovered. Generations of people with less gray matter, etc, this will affect decision making and emotions. Although this will appear to be behavioral, this is a physiological issue. Yes, poverty is a complex issue...much more than “poor people, poor habits.”
 

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Is Trump not giving them any???

Does Trump have any to give?

Very patchy news about this in Aus so I'm genuinely curious!
I don't know. I don't believe a word Trump says. According to Trump all the doctors and nurses and hospitals have everything they need. IIRC he used the word terrific and tremendous a lot. :roll:

And now I understand Kushner said the nation's stockpile of PPEs etc are not for the states. Huh?
Paid by the taxpayers but not for the taxpayers to save their lives?

Someone please wake me up from this never ending nightmare. Please.


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Some people are sure against welfare, but they will accept that Coronavirus check that will hit their bank accounts in a couple of weeks.

Poverty isn’t simply behavioral. There are studies out there that show that the brains of children who live in poverty are smaller than the brains of children who live in more affluent areas. This means that the issues that come from these children as they grow older will be physiological, not behavioral. This fact isn’t new, it is just newly discovered. Generations of people with less gray matter, etc, this will affect decision making and emotions. Although this will appear to be behavioral, this is a physiological issue. Yes, poverty is a complex issue...much more than “poor people, poor habits.”
Do they know if that is just down to poorer nutrition / lower levels of food energy to grow larger?
 

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Aww. The prime minister of Ireland was a doctor prior to politics and just registered to volunteer back in physician duties once a week. Sounds like he’ll mostly be helping with phone triaging patients, which sounds appropriate if you haven’t practiced since 2013 and is still super helpful as it prevents people from coming to the Emergency rooms unnecessarily. Haha imagine having a worrisome cough, calling the hotline, and getting the prime minister!

Anyways, much respect to him. Meanwhile Trump can’t be bothered to wear a mask because he doesn’t think it looks cool.
 

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Aww. The prime minister of Ireland was a doctor prior to politics and just registered to volunteer back in physician duties once a week. Sounds like he’ll mostly be helping with phone triaging patients, which sounds appropriate if you haven’t practiced since 2013 and is still super helpful as it prevents people from coming to the Emergency rooms unnecessarily. Haha imagine having a worrisome cough, calling the hotline, and getting the prime minister!

Anyways, much respect to him. Meanwhile Trump can’t be bothered to wear a mask because he doesn’t think it looks cool.
I heard him say yesterday that he's not wearing a mask because he recently tested negative. Nothing about not looking cool.
 

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I heard him say yesterday that he's not wearing a mask because he recently tested negative. Nothing about not looking cool.
He’s also quoted as saying he couldn’t see himself greeting dignitaries in one. I can find you the source if you like.

Anyways, in my opinion his negative test result is besides the point and not a reason not to wear a mask. As a leader you should model good behavior, and wearing a mask right now is a symbol of civic duty and care for your fellow man. Wear the mask.

Also saw this comment today in response to the naval officer removed due to sending out emails about covid on his ship. I honestly believe that if trump had had the power to “cover up” covid numbers and deaths in the US he would have. Luckily we have free media so yay for that.

I don’t agree with the last line. Or rather I think it’s more accurate to say I think the differences between the behaviors of the leaders of the countries are increasingly small.

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Meanwhile Trump can’t be bothered to wear a mask because he doesn’t think it looks cool.
Neither are the 3 Drs standing next him. What's your point besides bashing Trump?
 

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He knows everyone! Waiters, people on food stamps who loudly crow about how much they love living off the government dole, people taking their citizenship exams. Heck, he has all the time in the world to volunteer with them and manage to be on here 24/7. Renaissance man!
I volunteer my times babysitting 3 grandkids...:praise:
 

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I'm not sure if it's all of Australia but Victoria is going to put health care workers into hotels for free should they decide that they need a place to self isolate so they don't put their families at risk.

Pretty darn awesome isn't it? Proud to be Aussie!

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I heard him say yesterday that he's not wearing a mask because he recently tested negative. Nothing about not looking cool.
Also the recommendation is to wear a mask when you’re out in public. He’s not going out in public, everyone who comes near him is being tested so theres no real point to him wearing one. Not only that, lots of regular folks can’t get masks...it’s a bad visual.
 
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Yes, poverty is a complex issue...much more than “poor people, poor habits.”
The behavioral elements should not be left unaddressed though. When you grow up and that’s all you know, it’s hard to get out of it and let go. Most kids don’t succeed which is why having role models/encouragement outside of that environment is so important. Otherwise kids grow up never even understanding they can have something different. There are people in every income level who perpetuate dysfunctional habits and lifestyle choices....it isn’t only an affliction of the poor. We probably all know people like that.
I had some influential people in my life and as I got older I did understand I didn’t have to repeat my own upbringing. I’m luckier than most. Most of the people I think of now were not doing anything remarkable/intentional to influence me but I was watching, paying attention. When you have a chance to be a positive influence for a kid please do so...you might never know how badly they need it.
 

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Also the recommendation is to wear a mask when you’re out in public. He’s not going out in public, everyone who comes near him is being tested so theres no real point to him wearing one. Not only that, lots of regular folks can’t get masks...it’s a bad visual.
He could wear a presidential cloth one. No shortage of those. There definitely is a shortage of tests though so if they’re testing everyone who comes into the same room as Trump then he better have very limited ability to meet with people or that is a huge amount of testing since you’d have to retest people every time unless they saw zero other people in between seeing trump.
“In public” means “around other people” and I’m pretty sure a press conference counts.

I think it’s a worse visual for him to not wear one when everyone else is being asked to based on the science. “Do as I say, not as I do” isn’t an effective strategy for behavioral change and is poor leadership.
 

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He could wear a presidential cloth one. No shortage of those. There definitely is a shortage of tests though so if they’re testing everyone who comes into the same room as Trump then he better have very limited ability to meet with people or that is a huge amount of testing since you’d have to retest people every time unless they saw zero other people in between seeing trump.

I think it’s a worse visual for him to not wear one when everyone else is being asked to based on the science. “Do as I say, not as I do” isn’t an effective strategy for behavioral change and is poor leadership.
I'm TOTALLY fine with him not wearing one. Or taking any other precautions either. Frankly I think he should pay a personal prolonged visit to the most besieged medial facility there is. Just sayin'...
 

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Do they know if that is just down to poorer nutrition / lower levels of food energy to grow larger?
At first,, they thought the lack of nutrition, emotional support, and safety was the issue. Now they are saying that poverty itself is the cause for the brain abnormalities.
 

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This is quite morbid and not something I need to see at a time of pandemic - regardless which political figure is in the photo. This is Holy Week and I prefer to pray and think of positive outcomes. And I am sure that some will tell me to not look. Okay, I won't - I would hope that PS'rs would post more positive, optimistic posts. I am sorry for anyone who finds this to be funny.
 

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Not meant to be funny, just reflects what I think of Trump's handling of the pandemic, which is disaterous.
Not according to our Dem. Governor Gavin Newsom.

"I'm grateful for his leadership for the state of California," Newsom said. "It's time for partnership, not partisanship...he's our President. Every direct request I've asked the President of the United States, he has been responsive, he has tried to accommodate."
 

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@smitcompton I’m happy you are well and doing ok. I’m glad you have been able to get everything you need and are taking good care of yourself Annette.

Thank you for the update on the hospital. It’s good to know CDH is handling is taking measures to keep everyone safe. It’s also a relief to know they aren’t overwhelmed with Covid-19 patients at the moment. I’m hoping the measures our governor put in place help slow the curve.

I think of you and @Tekate offen as I watch Trump‘s daily briefing. The misinformation being spoken and the inconsistencies in the messaging is dangerous. I can’t believe people still support him.

My husband loved your comment.

@Queenie60 and @Dancing Fire, Do you listen to Trump’s daily briefing? Are you reading and watching what he does or are you not watching the news?
 
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