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doctorlady99

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Hello, everyone- Happy almost holidays!
Well, I decided to bring in one of the virtual stones that I had posted about previously and just got the images back. When I looked at the GIA cert. previously, these were the #''s I got:
Stone #1:
GIA
7.41-7.42x4.52 mm
1.52 carat
I
SI1
Cut Grade: Ex
Polish: Ex
Symmetry: Ex
Flourescence: Medium Blue
Depth: 61.1%
Table: 57.6%
Crown Angle: 33.6
Pavillion Angle: 40.8
Culet: None
Girdle: Medium (faceted)
HCA: 1.0 (within TIC range)
Ex-Ex-Ex-Very Good (Spread)
$8036

However, now that I get the Sarin, it is saying that the girdle ranges from think to slightly thick? That''s a bad thing, right? What do you all think about the pic, the Sarin, and the Idealscope? I am an IS newbie!
Thanks so much- my fiancee and I are trying to move forward quickly but I want to make sure that I am getting a beautiful stone! Any and all opinions are welcomed!

SARIN_GIA17784807.jpg
 
The IS:

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The Pic:

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1. Have you reserved the stone? I posted a stone from WF without reserving
it first just a few weeks ago and it was taken very soon after.

2. IS shows slight leakage under the table...maybe not enough to notice.

3. Judging from the magnified photo, it is possible the stone is not eye
clean (assuming you want eye clean), but WF will be happy to tell you if you
ask...just make sure they know your definition of ''eye clean''.
 
Oh, no- do you think I should remove the post?
 
just get WF to hold on it for you?

I am guessing that is the case already as you are the one that requested it to be bought in.
 
It took me about 2 minutes to find the stone on WF. While I think it is less
likely to be taken since the details are not available on their website, I''d
contact them and ask them to hold it for you.
 
Thanks, everyone- just talked to WF and I am safe since it was a virtual diamond brought in specifically for me... phew!!!!
Alright, so with that issue settled, what does everyone else think?
 
Could be nicer could be worse. Are you looking for a super ideal cut? Or do you have other things you'd rather focus on (like size)? It certainly doesn't look like a dog.
 
Well, this is about all I can do price-wise with my budget, and I wanted to stick with 1.5 and up. We have looked at a lot of stones and this one came up pretty good in the HCA before I had it brought in, but now I''m getting a bit nervous with everyone''s comments (which I really appreciate!). I guess I am looking for the best cut that I can get at this price, and WF has been terrific about working with me. What would you say are the biggest issues with this diamond? Do you think I could do better at this price point and size? Thanks so much for your help!
 
Date: 12/12/2008 5:06:45 PM
Author: doctorlady99
Well, this is about all I can do price-wise with my budget, and I wanted to stick with 1.5 and up. We have looked at a lot of stones and this one came up pretty good in the HCA before I had it brought in, but now I'm getting a bit nervous with everyone's comments (which I really appreciate!). I guess I am looking for the best cut that I can get at this price, and WF has been terrific about working with me. What would you say are the biggest issues with this diamond? Do you think I could do better at this price point and size? Thanks so much for your help!
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I think you'd be hard pressed to do much better if you aren't willing to compromise on the size or other specs a bit. Like I said, this stone won't be a dog by any means, it's just not a super ideal like so many of us love here. Ask WF's honest opinion of it in person. They'll be honest with you about it. But if you are at your budget limit and really want above a 1.5 it'll be a nice stone for you.
 
Thanks so much, Neatfreak! I talked to WF and they said it''s a terrific stone. They also said that it is Eye-Clean, if that helps. I guess my main question is that I am moving from a .83 AGS0 to this new stone, and I wanted to find something comparable in terms of the sparkle- I just loved the way my smaller AGS 0 threw light everywhere. It definitely wasn''t a super-ideal (I don''t have the specs, sorry), but it was a H&A AGS 0. So do you think I would notice a difference in the sparkle put out by this 1.52 stone that I am looking at? Or will the differences be negligible?
 
Date: 12/12/2008 5:18:40 PM
Author: doctorlady99
Thanks so much, Neatfreak! I talked to WF and they said it''s a terrific stone. They also said that it is Eye-Clean, if that helps. I guess my main question is that I am moving from a .83 AGS0 to this new stone, and I wanted to find something comparable in terms of the sparkle- I just loved the way my smaller AGS 0 threw light everywhere. It definitely wasn''t a super-ideal (I don''t have the specs, sorry), but it was a H&A AGS 0. So do you think I would notice a difference in the sparkle put out by this 1.52 stone that I am looking at? Or will the differences be negligible?
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Personally I think the difference will probably be negligible here. Esp. if WF says it''s a good performer.
 
You are all so wonderful and helpful- thank you so much! I guess I have some thinking to do...it''s so hard to transform all of these numbers and images and information into an understanding of what a stone will actually be like in real life. However, I do trust whiteflash and all of you, so I am hoping that will be enough to make a good decision.
 
I actually wondered if anyone can help me understand the whole HCA thing- the numbers looked terrific when I plugged them in- was the HCA misleading? Is this stone not as good as the HCA numbers told me it would be?
 
Date: 12/12/2008 6:16:03 PM
Author: doctorlady99
I actually wondered if anyone can help me understand the whole HCA thing- the numbers looked terrific when I plugged them in- was the HCA misleading? Is this stone not as good as the HCA numbers told me it would be?
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HCA is often misunderstood. It is a rejection tool, meaning that you should use it to throw out stones that are not likely to perform well. Anything under 2 is likely to perform well, but doesn't guarantee that it's a superideal OR that it is suited for the purpose you want (i.e., you can get a low scoring stone that wouldn't be good for an ering).

Your stone scored under 2, meaning it should be considered. Is it the best top notch cut out there? No. But did the HCA mislead you into choosing a dog? No. You just need to use other info for your selection. You then use the other info you have, mostly idealscope, aset, or your eyes, to choose.
 
Honestly - looks good to me. My DH and I didn''t have the budget for super-ideal in my e-ring either for the center stone, and it still sparkles like crazy. I''m hoping to upgrade to a larger super-ideal down the road, but for now my stone is lovely and I get lots of compliments on it.
 
I''m not convinced that super-ideal is necessary for everyone. This stone has a nice idealscope image, it''s reasonably symmetrical, it scores well on the HCA, it gets the thumbs up from WF. If you put it next to a super-ideal of the same size, color, and eye-cleanness, would you be able to tell the difference? Maybe, maybe not. If you put it next to the smaller super-ideal you''d be buying with the same money, would you be able to tell the difference? Yes, the super-ideal would look smaller.

It might be like the difference between a D and a G. Visible? To some people. But many would still prefer a larger G.

I bet you''ll be happy with this stone. If you''re not, you can return it.
 
Thanks, I think I am feeling much better about this- I really do care about the cut of this diamond and I want it to look great, but obviously my budget wouldn''t allow me to get into the ACA''s and other superideals. I knew that I couldn''t afford a super-ideal on this budget in this carat range, so I guess what I wondered was if I was getting good value for my money with this stone, or if you think I should keep looking in this price range. Can anyone comment on that?

P.S. I love PS. You are all fabulous and helpful.
 
Date: 12/13/2008 7:43:42 PM
Author: doctorlady99
Thanks, I think I am feeling much better about this- I really do care about the cut of this diamond and I want it to look great, but obviously my budget wouldn''t allow me to get into the ACA''s and other superideals. I knew that I couldn''t afford a super-ideal on this budget in this carat range, so I guess what I wondered was if I was getting good value for my money with this stone, or if you think I should keep looking in this price range. Can anyone comment on that?


P.S. I love PS. You are all fabulous and helpful.
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I think it''s a good value for the money and will be very well performing.
 
Thanks, neatfreak!
 
I think this is a good deal. Looks good as far as I can tell.
 
Thanks, JulieN- do you like that stone better than this one? I actually was looking at that one previously...
 
Date: 12/13/2008 7:55:54 PM
Author: doctorlady99
Thanks, JulieN- do you like that stone better than this one? I actually was looking at that one previously...
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I''m not Julie but I would want to know more about the visibility of all those inclusions. My eye was drawn right to them, but could still be eyeclean considering the image is so magnified.
 
I have a 1.53 I SI round with medium blue fluorescence from Whiteflash that was an expert selection rather than an ACA and mine sparkles like mad and looks very white. The stone you''re considering like an excellent buy and I''d trust WF if they say it''s a great performer.
 
I prefer the WF stone over the GOG stone. Not sure exactly why, but that is what my gut tells me. Honestly, if WF says it is a great performer and that it is eyeclean I''d believe them. If you dislike it when you get it you can always send it back!
 
Date: 12/13/2008 10:09:30 PM
Author: EricaR
I prefer the WF stone over the GOG stone. Not sure exactly why, but that is what my gut tells me. Honestly, if WF says it is a great performer and that it is eyeclean I''d believe them. If you dislike it when you get it you can always send it back!
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The original diamond looks good to my eyes and well worth considering.
 
Your comments are all so helpful! Honestly, that GOG stone was the other one I was looking at and I am glad to know that you all feel the WF stone is the better way to go, because that was my decision as well (I guess I really am learning!). I think I''m going to take the plunge and go for the WF stone. It seems like it will fit my needs and I think the price is terrific. By the way, James from WF has been absolutely fabulous. I have heard how terrific they are from the forums, but they really do go above and beyond. I will let you all know how it looks in person- I am so excited now that I''ve decided! I won''t see the ring until my BF proposes (that was our deal), but I will post pics once it comes in! WF has a great return policy, so if anything is not as I expect I will just return it and look for something else, but I am thinking that I will probably love it. BTW, I will be setting it in the very simple 4-prong WF platinum setting (with the prongs shaved down a bit)- I''m a traditional girl! :) Thanks to all of you for all of your help with this decision! You are terrific people!
 
Congrats!!
 
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