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Van C setting Advice for larger stone?

wintotty

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I'm looking for the setting for my future stone, which will be about 3.5+carat. I really love the Van C settings and how unique and detailed each bands are. I received some samples from them today, and I like them in person even more.....but most of the pics I see with Van C setting has smaller stones set than what I'm getting, and they look fabulous that way. I'm not sure if 3.5 carat center stone will suit the setting style I like... Has anyone seen the Van C rings with larger stones? I'm only interested in the thinner band style..... What is your opinions on setting the larger stone on these settings? I'm afraid that a ring won't look right with 3.5 in it.....


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Oh, those are so pretty! Angeline had an 8.4mm diamond in one at one time. Here is her thread when she decided to sell the setting.

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/forum/preloved-ps-jewels/reduced-platinum-van-craeynest-setting-t170655.html']https://www.pricescope.com/forum/preloved-ps-jewels/reduced-platinum-van-craeynest-setting-t170655.html[/URL]

The head is larger when the stone is larger, so it works. But I am not sure about whether the ring might simply be better suited to a stone smaller than 3.5 cts.
 
I assume you are talking about a RB in a 3.5 size? They could definitely make it work but I'm thinking that size stone may overpower such a delicate setting. Would probably be better if you did stack some of those bands but a larger stone definitely hangs over the mounting - would hate to obscure the workmanship of the ring with a diamond. Sounds funny here in PS land though, doesn't it?
 
diamondseeker2006|1351621562|3295743 said:
Oh, those are so pretty! Angeline had an 8.4mm diamond in one at one time. Here is her thread when she decided to sell the setting.

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/forum/preloved-ps-jewels/reduced-platinum-van-craeynest-setting-t170655.html']https://www.pricescope.com/forum/preloved-ps-jewels/reduced-platinum-van-craeynest-setting-t170655.html[/URL]

The head is larger when the stone is larger, so it works. But I am not sure about whether the ring might simply be better suited to a stone smaller than 3.5 cts.


Hi DS! I saw your post about returning the AVR, sorry it didn't work out this time... But I'm sure you'll find something you LOVE in the future!

Yeah Paul told me he can def mount 3.5+ on the ring, but I just can't really visualize how it look as a whole. I hate to not have a ring from them, so if the setting doesn't work out, I might just order a band from them to stack. :Up_to_something:
 
MissGotRocks|1351623130|3295750 said:
I assume you are talking about a RB in a 3.5 size? They could definitely make it work but I'm thinking that size stone may overpower such a delicate setting. Would probably be better if you did stack some of those bands but a larger stone definitely hangs over the mounting - would hate to obscure the workmanship of the ring with a diamond. Sounds funny here in PS land though, doesn't it?

MGR, stone is AVR. I was/am considering Tacori rings, but Van C is so much more detailed and unique, and well made.....and price is better than Tacori. Other option was to get the Vatche U-113, but I wasn't sure to put J color diamond in the Vatche ring....
 
I haven't seen a Van C in person but from that picture I think it would look amazing with a 3.5 AVR! They produce such extraordinary pieces that I'd trust that they will work with your stone to make it work (or let you know it's too big which I believe I read on someone else's thread?).
 
wintotty|1351624412|3295761 said:
MissGotRocks|1351623130|3295750 said:
I assume you are talking about a RB in a 3.5 size? They could definitely make it work but I'm thinking that size stone may overpower such a delicate setting. Would probably be better if you did stack some of those bands but a larger stone definitely hangs over the mounting - would hate to obscure the workmanship of the ring with a diamond. Sounds funny here in PS land though, doesn't it?

MGR, stone is AVR. I was/am considering Tacori rings, but Van C is so much more detailed and unique, and well made.....and price is better than Tacori. Other option was to get the Vatche U-113, but I wasn't sure to put J color diamond in the Vatche ring....

Wintotty, do you have the stone yet? Would love to see it!

As Rosebloom states in her post, I too think that Van C would work with your stone to make the ring spectacular. They would space those stones on the sides to start where the diamond ends - if that makes sense.

Which Tacori mounting were you considering?
 
I second McT and McC....they have gorgeous settings and I think a 3.5 AVR would look amazing in several of them. Not that VanC isn't gorgeous, but I do think that a stone of that size may overwhelm a thin band, even if you stack a couple.
 
Rosebloom|1351625166|3295767 said:
I haven't seen a Van C in person but from that picture I think it would look amazing with a 3.5 AVR! They produce such extraordinary pieces that I'd trust that they will work with your stone to make it work (or let you know it's too big which I believe I read on someone else's thread?).

I sent Paul an E-mail regarding the concern.....asked if he has any pictures of the bigger stone in these band.
It's just nerve wrecking that I have such a poor imagination to visualize how the ring may look after completion.... ;(
 
MissGotRocks|1351625470|3295773 said:
wintotty|1351624412|3295761 said:
MissGotRocks|1351623130|3295750 said:
I assume you are talking about a RB in a 3.5 size? They could definitely make it work but I'm thinking that size stone may overpower such a delicate setting. Would probably be better if you did stack some of those bands but a larger stone definitely hangs over the mounting - would hate to obscure the workmanship of the ring with a diamond. Sounds funny here in PS land though, doesn't it?

MGR, stone is AVR. I was/am considering Tacori rings, but Van C is so much more detailed and unique, and well made.....and price is better than Tacori. Other option was to get the Vatche U-113, but I wasn't sure to put J color diamond in the Vatche ring....

Wintotty, do you have the stone yet? Would love to see it!

As Rosebloom states in her post, I too think that Van C would work with your stone to make the ring spectacular. They would space those stones on the sides to start where the diamond ends - if that makes sense.

Which Tacori mounting were you considering?

This Tacori, pics are from "Kathleenmv"
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But this ring is about $2K more than the Van C setting I'm interested in, which is this....also considering the setting I posted above.

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The VanC ring I like has two sizes. The thinner shank is for diamonds under a carat whereas the larger one is for stones over a carat. I think because the larger one is more substantial, it can handle a really large stone. But I am struggling with the setting issue, too. (Not to mention I don't have a stone!) I really love the simplicity of the Vatche U-113 which lets the diamond stand out, plus it looks good with so many kinds of bands. The VC rings really need a VC band or thin plain or diamond band and that is about it.

I think you told me that you have seen a large J and you were fine with it, right? Because I had trouble going from a stone that was basically white to one that was tinted. They take on color more from their surroundings and can look pretty dark sometimes. In other lighting it looked fine. But I need a stone that looks fine all the time!
 
I will tell you that when I was talking to Victor about settings and sent him the picture of the Tacori you just posted, he said it is set way too high. I was just showing him the picture for inspiration, but I'd get him to make something lower than the Tacori especially if it is a larger stone.
 
diamondseeker2006|1351627346|3295791 said:
The VanC ring I like has two sizes. The thinner shank is for diamonds under a carat whereas the larger one is for stones over a carat. I think because the larger one is more substantial, it can handle a really large stone. But I am struggling with the setting issue, too. (Not to mention I don't have a stone!) I really love the simplicity of the Vatche U-113 which lets the diamond stand out, plus it looks good with so many kinds of bands. The VC rings really need a VC band or thin plain or diamond band and that is about it.

I think you told me that you have seen a large J and you were fine with it, right? Because I had trouble going from a stone that was basically white to one that was tinted. They take on color more from their surroundings and can look pretty dark sometimes. In other lighting it looked fine. But I need a stone that looks fine all the time!


I hear you! I'm going from D with strong Blue Flour to J!!!! I have 1ct ACA with J color as my ear stud and when I still had my D AVC, I looked at them side by side, and couldn't really see much of a difference!!! So I guess I'm not really color sensitive :cheeky:

You know once I see the band from Van C it is so hard to not own at least 1 piece from them!! I guess you already have 1 so you should be OK!!
 
Yes, it does make you want one when you see them! I still do want the setting I like, but ideally I'd probably put an AVC in it. I still want a round for my main e-ring, though. And I need to get that settled before buying a secondary diamond ring!!!

Did you tell me Jon sent you one of the 2 ct. J AVR's to look at? If so, that is good. I just want you to be sure since you are taking a much bigger jump than I am!
 
I had talked to Paul about setting a 3.7 ct stone into one of their settings and he was able to advise me on which designs are best suited. The smaller thinner bands aren't a good fit per his advice as it will look odd. The entire ring will be sized up proportionately so you won't have a top heavy, ring pop style ring. ;))
 
DS,

I did see 2crt+ AVR in J color, and I don't mind the color at all.

I'm getting kind of stressed out trying to figure out which setting I want for the diamond I don't even have yet!! John said he was getting some rough in and see if those work out for me last weekend, but they got hit by the storm so don't know how that plays out. I hope they are OK and everyone is safe:))

I'm started to lean towards the Vatche U-113 for now. It is expensive at $2600 for a simple setting, but I like theirs better for simple solitaire, and I can play with stacking band that way. Other concern I have with Van C setting is that it may not really go with my other RHR............all of my RHR are modern style.....I love Van Cleef rings, so I have a few of between the finger rings and recently got the MRB full eternity from IDJ. So I feel like I should stick with the simple setting for now..............until I find something I truly LOVE.
 
wintotty|1351691693|3296190 said:
DS,

I did see 2crt+ AVR in J color, and I don't mind the color at all.

I'm getting kind of stressed out trying to figure out which setting I want for the diamond I don't even have yet!! John said he was getting some rough in and see if those work out for me last weekend, but they got hit by the storm so don't know how that plays out. I hope they are OK and everyone is safe:))

I'm started to lean towards the Vatche U-113 for now. It is expensive at $2600 for a simple setting, but I like theirs better for simple solitaire, and I can play with stacking band that way. Other concern I have with Van C setting is that it may not really go with my other RHR............all of my RHR are modern style.....I love Van Cleef rings, so I have a few of between the finger rings and recently got the MRB full eternity from IDJ. So I feel like I should stick with the simple setting for now..............until I find something I truly LOVE.

That sounds like a good plan. Can't wait to see your stone! :appl:
 
wintotty|1351691693|3296190 said:
DS,

I did see 2crt+ AVR in J color, and I don't mind the color at all.

I'm getting kind of stressed out trying to figure out which setting I want for the diamond I don't even have yet!! John said he was getting some rough in and see if those work out for me last weekend, but they got hit by the storm so don't know how that plays out. I hope they are OK and everyone is safe:))

I'm started to lean towards the Vatche U-113 for now. It is expensive at $2600 for a simple setting, but I like theirs better for simple solitaire, and I can play with stacking band that way. Other concern I have with Van C setting is that it may not really go with my other RHR............all of my RHR are modern style.....I love Van Cleef rings, so I have a few of between the finger rings and recently got the MRB full eternity from IDJ. So I feel like I should stick with the simple setting for now..............until I find something I truly LOVE.

Okay, that is good! I thought you had told me that but wanted to be sure! The I color has grown on me more, but I still have uncertainty about the setting issue. I love the Vatche U-113 and think it allows you to wear almost any kind of wedding band with it. I have some antique style RHR's, so I am almost wondering if a VanC would be too much for an everyday e-ring for me. I'd like to have one as a secondary ring, so I don't want the stone to be larger than the one in my Vatche Tiffany!!!! Gosh this is complicated!!!

But for you, I really agree that if you want versatility with bands as well as wearing more contemporary rings on your right hand, you might be better off getting a VanC as an extra ring as well and not for your e-ring.
 
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