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I do think that the vendor''s email customer service rep could have been a clearer as to why they couldn''t meet the needs of the customer- the professional photo shoot thing at least explains their method a little. I''m glad that a Topazery president posted that info... however, I''m surprised that the emails didn''t include it in the first place, as they were pretty terse and wrote the sale off amazingly quickly.

As a customer, even if it seems irksome initially, it is probably good to know that there''s no need to spend any more time pursuing a sale and to move on- less wasted time all around.

As someone who has worked with selling antiques over the internet on a website in the past, I do know you get TONS of weird questions- signal to noise ratio on email customer service selling antique, one-of-a-kind type items is terrible; I''d say you get one serious question for every ten or twenty non-spam emails, and of those serious questions, you then do an enormous amount of work to make the occasional sale. While in an ideal world, the email customer service person would keep this frustration to themselves, as obviously it isn''t the fault of the real, actual customer that it can be an utterly frustrating job, wellllll... we are human. I have occasionally told a customer not to purchase an item. Usually that point is reached (for me) after a dozen emails and a bunch of research books opened and many pics sent, but I do admit I''ve done it... perhaps with a little more tact I hope, but maybe not.

While it isn''t to excuse their abruptness, that''s probably the *why* of it, anyway. She probably just answered about twenty emails asking "can you appraise my X for free?" in various sneaky ways, often phrased as "I want a better pic of this" (with the unstated second half of that question often being "to see if it is just like my thing").

I think a good way for Topazery to improve would be for them to make SURE they have head on photos- that''s so essential for selling antique cuts, and for judging eye cleanliness. At least they have a good number of high res photos otherwise. That would cut down a lot on the questions asking for pics, I''m sure.

Also a little more info on the "no more pics" thing to pass on to customers would be good at minimum, but ideally I would rethink that policy for sure. Or perhaps to tell the customer, "call us to discuss this" to try to make sure they were only dealing with actual customers wanting more pics... because it shouldn''t be *that* hard to get someone to snap a few extras. I don''t expect to sell a Steuben vase without, say, a pic of the mark on the bottom, and if a customer asks me for a closeup of it I will send them one if they respond to my first email to them. That''s often my first method of testing how serious they are- many not-so-serious customers, or non-customers, won''t email you back when you reply to them and say "So, you wanted a pic of X?" (Perhaps there''s some thing preventing them from taking a quick pic easily, but dang it''s hard to sell antiques online without that ability!)

I''d also think that not jumping to the "please go shop somewhere else" thing quite so fast would be good. Unless there''s some info missing here, the customer came off to me as fairly serious from his email, and I, if I was their email rep, would have pursued it as a possible sale. Even if no more pics are possible, asking the customer to call would have been a good move instead. (IMHO. Perhaps their business model is completely different than the antique mall I work for, but I doubt it.)

And for what it''s worth (though I didn''t read any of the customer''s emails as snarky at all) as an email customer service rep, you NEED a thick skin for those types of things... emails can read as abrupt anyway and if you take a slightly terse email as offensive as a customer service rep, you''re in the wrong job for sure and will be furious all day long every day. (FWIW, I hated doing it, and now my husband does that job.) I would have been a bit floored by the response too, and asking some questions like he did seemed like a reasonable response to me.
 
Date: 11/21/2008 5:08:28 AM
Author: elmo
Looking at the fairly good info they have, more photos are not a big deal. Pay the 45 bucks to ship and use the generous return period to look yourself. The eyeclean question is very valid though. Agree that they should have explained how they do the photos. My first thought was to wonder if they have the item on premises or if it was photographed and held in someone else''s inventory then drop-shipped - that is one of the usual issues with getting additional information.

Their restocking fees (listed under legal policy)could cost big bucks. There are a lot of complicated scenerios listed that would cause a 20% automatic restock fee. And you have to jump through a BUNCH of hoops to do a return. Something to keep in mind.
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...and a return period which is 15 days from the day they ship does not count as particularly generous in my books.
 
I agree flowerlady and Coyote..
I''d never heard of this store until this thread - I went to have a look, and they''re prices seem incredibly high to me - 2.5k for a 0.11ct diamond in a standard filigree mount?
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no thanks!

all in all, definately one shop I can cross off my list, lol..
 
I applaud Jan for coming on here and putting her POV out there. But, she fails to address the problem here - the crappy customer service the OP first received. He doesn''t want excuses or explanantions about the internet site, a simple - we are sorry for the appalling initial email contact'' and ''here are some quick digi-cam pics we took for you, hope we can do business'' email ?!

I think Whiteflash should run a "how to give great customer service 101'' seminar''!!!! I think a lot of vendors could learn a thing or two (or 600!) from Lesley, Brian and the team!!!
 
I think WF has a much bigger team to deal with customer service.

At the time I bought from topazery I knew the ring was very expensive for what it was, but I''d hunted for a year, knew what I wanted, and had trouble finding it anywhere else. I''ve seen similar items for about half the price elsewhere, but similar isn''t the same as when it comes to antique jewellery!

I bought two items from them to compare. I really remember the return policy being better! I was required to send the item I didn''t keep back by registered post, which can easily take 7 of your 15 days. 15 days to return is not enough time when you include shipping times both ways. I think I played with the two rings for about a week before deciding.

I''m glad that Jan posted here, but it still doesn''t excuse the very short, dismissive sounding emails.
 
Date: 11/22/2008 6:04:09 AM
Author: Addy


I''m glad that Jan posted here, but it still doesn''t excuse the very short, dismissive sounding emails.

ditto. As a perspective buyer, it would make me avoid that site. I just don''t understand why they didn''t explain why they couldn''t send the pics in the first place. Bad customer services annoys me.
 
Date: 11/21/2008 8:51:37 PM
Author: flowerladytoo
Their restocking fees (listed under legal policy)could cost big bucks. There are a lot of complicated scenerios listed that would cause a 20% automatic restock fee. And you have to jump through a BUNCH of hoops to do a return. Something to keep in mind.
The fact that they list information relevant to a few kinds of returns on their legal page not the returns page bothers me far more than any of the conditions that will result in a restocking fee. The scenario that results in a fee appears to be ordering two items of the same kind then keeping one and returning one. Seems odd to me (shouldn't they be happy you kept one?
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) but not a big problem, as long as you're aware of the policy. Putting it under legal is a problem. I don't see the return procedure as unusual though - email for a return auth, have to keep the tag on, can't wear it around, send registered, email tracking number, etc. All standard procedure...spelled out in detail is actually reassuring because returning expensive jewelry requires attention and care that many folks are simply unaware of.

oldmancoyote - they ship two-day express, so 15 less 2 is still 30% more time than honey22's suggested vendor. 13 days is good, but you're right I take back "generous"...still better than most.

Addy, their returns page says that the item has to be mailed in 15 days (not received). Not sure what they're expecting but the wording isn't ambiguous. Interesting though that they didn't hit you with the 20% restocking fee as you bought two items to compare
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I'm not trying to defend anyone but in my experience antique vendors seem to have less generous returns and less effective customer service than the folks selling new stones and jewelry, for whatever reasons. Apples and oranges, not sure why. These folks' policies seem better to me than many antique vendor's policies I've seen.

LittleGreyKitten - I enjoyed reading your post
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Date: 11/23/2008 6:13:11 AM
Author: elmo

Addy, their returns page says that the item has to be mailed in 15 days (not received). Not sure what they''re expecting but the wording isn''t ambiguous. Interesting though that they didn''t hit you with the 20% restocking fee as you bought two items to compare
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I noticed that the other day. I bought from them in 2005. It sounds like things have changed a lot. Based on reading through their website now I''m not sure that I''d buy from them again. I was just charged shipping both ways and lost about $25-40 on the shipping, which wasn''t a big deal to me and exactly as Jan and I discussed ahead of time. 20% restocking would have been around $150-$200 lost plus the shipping and there''s no way I would have done that!
 
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