To the wise ones: does this IS look good?

[dinamit]

Hi there,

I need to enlist help from you guys again...I am looking for a stone in the 0.60ct range for a RHR and came across this one.

Can I please have opinions on the IS?

Thanks!

D.

 

[stone-cold11]

Looks good.

ASET and numbers please?

 

[dinamit]

Thanks Stone-Cold!

ASET attached, and here are the stats:

Depth: 61.5
Table: 56.2
Crown: 34.3
Pavillion: 40.9
Dimensions: 5.47 X 5.50 X 3.38

I hope I am not missing something..

 

[stone-cold11]

all there.

Everything looks good to me.

 

[dinamit]

Phew, that''s good to know!

Thanks Stone-Cold.

Can I please pick your brains a little further? In your experience, how do JA True Hearts stones compare to ACAs or Infinity? Are there any other brands I should be looking at? I heard of HoF but I never saw one.

 

[stone-cold11]

From what I see, I do not own a JA or WF H&A stone, but JA H&A has a wider variance in the angles and sometimes hearts image. WF ACA is more tightly cut, angle variance is off by about 0.1-0.2 degrees.

The other brands are carried by GOG, their signature ideals and ISee2 diamonds also looks good, but never seen one in life...

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 9/2/2009 8:44:24 PM
Author: dinamit
Phew, that's good to know!

Thanks Stone-Cold.

Can I please pick your brains a little further? In your experience, how do JA True Hearts stones compare to ACAs or Infinity? Are there any other brands I should be looking at? I heard of HoF but I never saw one.

This diamond is a winner, no concerns at all!

Each company have their various standards concerning h&a diamonds and it depends on what you want, also ACA and Infinity offer more flexible upgrade policies so that might be a consideration if an upgrade might be a future project.

HoF are normally carried by brick and mortar stores I believe.

 

[luckedup]

It looks BEATIFUL to me

 

[dinamit]

Thanks for your input Luckedup and Lorelei.

The only thing that worries me a bit is how it''s scores on the HCA: 1.4 but the scintillation and spread are VG. Obviously, I will determine whether the stone appeals to me in person, but is this reason for concern?

D.

 

[tap02150]

If its an Whiteflash ACA you have NOTHING to worry about.

I also have one and IN LOVE lol.

Good pick; Working with White Flash was a very fun experience - I highly recommend if you love this stone!

-Ted

 

[tap02150]

The ACA standards are so strict that you shouldn''t be worrying about how the diamond will look; it will be amazing. But its always smart to shop around for price wise.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 9/3/2009 7:12:38 AM
Author: dinamit
Thanks for your input Luckedup and Lorelei.

The only thing that worries me a bit is how it's scores on the HCA: 1.4 but the scintillation and spread are VG. Obviously, I will determine whether the stone appeals to me in person, but is this reason for concern?

D.

No worries at all, the HCA is used to eliminate diamonds and once you have images those trump any HCA score. Also most well cut diamonds get VG for spread, only those with depths of 60.3% or lower get ex. Its a gorgeous diamond of top cut quality, nothing to worry about at all!

 

[dinamit]

Thanks for reassuring me Tap and Lorelei

I''ve noticed that superideals often score VG for spread on the HCA, and that didn''t worry me, I was thinking more about the scintillation...

Whiteflash has another couple of stones that I have requested IS and ASET images for, as they aren''t online.

Pricewise, I was quite pleased with Whiteflash. I did see a couple of beautiful Infinity stones, but both seemed to be just outside of what I was looking for in terms of colour and size (a colourless 0.61 and a warmer 0.53, and I was hoping for something inbetween). There was just more choice on the Whiteflash website. I''ve also looked at JA True Hearts stones, which are priced even more competitively, but I am being told that they aren''t as tight on the parameters.

 

[stone-cold11]

JA has a greater spread of angles and some of their hearts image are great, so no harm searching through them.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 9/3/2009 7:57:02 AM
Author: dinamit
Thanks for reassuring me Tap and Lorelei

I've noticed that superideals often score VG for spread on the HCA, and that didn't worry me, I was thinking more about the scintillation...

Whiteflash has another couple of stones that I have requested IS and ASET images for, as they aren't online.

Pricewise, I was quite pleased with Whiteflash. I did see a couple of beautiful Infinity stones, but both seemed to be just outside of what I was looking for in terms of colour and size (a colourless 0.61 and a warmer 0.53, and I was hoping for something inbetween). There was just more choice on the Whiteflash website. I've also looked at JA True Hearts stones, which are priced even more competitively, but I am being told that they aren't as tight on the parameters.

Don't worry about scintillation, this seems to come up on the HCA but remember the HCA cannot see the diamond and is only estimating based on assumptions and 4 measurements. JA h&a diamonds as in all cases with any vendor look at each one on its own desirable visual and physical properties ( proportions, hearts and arrows images etc).

 

[dinamit]

Love your bunny Lorelei!

I just spoke to Traci at Whiteflash to check that the stone is eyeclean to my standards as it''s an SI1, and she said it is eyeclean when looking 6" away. The inclusions are crystal, 1 feather and a cloud. Should I be worried about the cloud? Could it reduce the brilliance?

 

[jet2ks]

Diamond looks good. How is the cloud listed on the grading report? If it is listed first, as the grade setting inclusion, I would ask WF about whether it affects the briliance (though this is rare in SI1), if the other inclusions are listed first and the cloud is lower on the list, I wouldn''t worry about it. Inclusions are listed in order of importance to the clarity grade.

Lorelei, the bunny av is too cute!!!

 

[dinamit]

Thanks Jet2Ks, here is the report link:

http://www.whiteflash.com/diamonds/certificate.aspx?idno=2176313&file_name=1

The cloud is the first on the list. I did ask Traci about this, and she assured me that I have nothing to worry about, but I am not sure. I wonder if I am worrying uneccessarily...

Here is another diamond I am considering, how does it look?

Depth:61.5
Table: 56.4
Crown: 34.4
Pavillion: 40.8
0.63ct dimensions 5.48*5.52*3.38
Scores 1.2 on the HCA with VG spread

Here is the cert for that one, it also has a cloud, feather and crystals:

http://webmail.aol.com/44148/aim/en-gb/mail/get-attachment.aspx?uid=1.25829038&folder=Inbox&partId=4

I need to resize the IS image, but it''s a JA True Hearts diamond. Do you have an opinion on ACA''s vs True Hearts?

Thanks!

D.

 

[dinamit]

I resized the IS for the 2nd diamond, so what do you guys think?

 

[stone-cold11]

IS image looks good to me.

 

[jet2ks]

Date: 9/3/2009 2:03:17 PM
Author: dinamit
Thanks Jet2Ks, here is the report link:

http://www.whiteflash.com/diamonds/certificate.aspx?idno=2176313&file_name=1

The cloud is the first on the list. I did ask Traci about this, and she assured me that I have nothing to worry about, but I am not sure. I wonder if I am worrying uneccessarily...

Probably. As mentioned, a cloud affecting the brilliance is rare in SI1 and from the inclusion map, this is a small cloud. Also, WF is not going to give an ACA designation to an inferior stone.

The JA numbers and IS look good, but the link is to an email account, not the page for the stone. Ask for a hearts image, since it is being sold as H&A.

 

[dinamit]

Ooops, what a ditz! I am going mad

Here is the link again

http://www.agslab.com/pdf_sync_reports/1040362470524-PDQDFK.PDF

 

[dinamit]

Oh, I forgot to mention that the ACA report cites ''additional clouds not shown''. I once read a PS post where it was suggested this isn''t a good thing.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 9/3/2009 3:43:05 PM
Author: dinamit
Oh, I forgot to mention that the ACA report cites 'additional clouds not shown'. I once read a PS post where it was suggested this isn't a good thing.

Won't be a problem in this instance with an ACA, the time to be wary is if it says " clarity grade is based on clouds which are not shown" in SI clarities. " Clouds not shown" in the comments section is not usually of concern and is just mentioned for completeness.

 

[dinamit]

Lorelei,

You always bring good news! Thanks for helping me make a carefree purchase.

D.

 

[dinamit]

I forgot to ask for your opinion on the 2nd IS image...

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 9/3/2009 4:56:00 PM
Author: dinamit
Lorelei,

You always bring good news! Thanks for helping me make a carefree purchase.

D.

Thats very kind and that makes me happy to know I am of help to you, thank you!!!

The second IS image looks good, no concerns there.

Hehehe! Glad you all like the bunny!

 

[dinamit]

Thanks Lorelei! Oh, your help is invaluable, thank you so much for being so generous with your knowledge and time!

Jet2: here is the hearts image for the 2nd stone.

So which one guys?

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 9/4/2009 9:37:44 AM
Author: dinamit
Thanks Lorelei! Oh, your help is invaluable, thank you so much for being so generous with your knowledge and time!

Jet2: here is the hearts image for the 2nd stone.

So which one guys?

You are very welcome and thank you for your very kind words!

The hearts image looks fine, so it comes down to price and preference and checking very carefully that each are eyeclean from all angles, also if an upgrade policy might be a future consideration, Whiteflash's upgrade terms are more lenient than those of James Allen. The JA diamond does have a grade setting cloud so check that it isn't impacting brilliance to be on the safe side.

 

[jet2ks]

Date: 9/4/2009 9:43:12 AM
Author: Lorelei

The hearts image looks fine, so it comes down to price and preference and checking very carefully that each are eyeclean from all angles, also if an upgrade policy might be a future consideration, Whiteflash''s upgrade terms are more lenient than those of James Allen.

Ditto Lorelei