To the wise ones: does this IS look good?

[dinamit]

Once again, thanks Lorelei and Jet2. The JA diamond has a grade making cloud? I don''t know how I managed to miss that, how does it show on the certificate? I was leaning towards the ACA, there isn''t a significant price difference, the only thing is that the JA diamond is one grade lighter. Call me weird, but I am quite keen to get a stone that isn''t colourless, though I appreciate there won''t be a huge difference between them.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 9/4/2009 1:45:28 PM
Author: dinamit
Once again, thanks Lorelei and Jet2. The JA diamond has a grade making cloud? I don''t know how I managed to miss that, how does it show on the certificate? I was leaning towards the ACA, there isn''t a significant price difference, the only thing is that the JA diamond is one grade lighter. Call me weird, but I am quite keen to get a stone that isn''t colourless, though I appreciate there won''t be a huge difference between them.

You are very welcome, Jet and I are glad to help! If you look on the grading report of the JA diamond you will see a cloud is noted on the clarity plot, hence the advice to check that it isn''t impacting brilliance. This is rare but best to check. I won''t call you weird for not wanting a colourless diamond, I prefer near colourless or the capes myself!

 

[stone-cold11]

When you look at the JA stone's report, under the clarity plot, there is a list of inclusions and what the symbols means. There is a cloud listed there and the inclusions are listed are in order of significance.

 

[tulips]

yeah...
love that cute bunny.... so cuteeeeeeeeee ! looks cuddly... oopsss. sorry for deviating...

back to diamond...

i heard that ACA is great because of its experts.. like Brian Gavin...who came up with a cut above (ACA) but now Brian has left ACA and I am not sure if it still has its standard like before? Someone can tell me?

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 9/4/2009 2:41:02 PM
Author: tulips
yeah...
love that cute bunny.... so cuteeeeeeeeee ! looks cuddly... oopsss. sorry for deviating...

back to diamond...

i heard that ACA is great because of its experts.. like Brian Gavin...who came up with a cut above (ACA) but now Brian has left ACA and I am not sure if it still has its standard like before? Someone can tell me?

The ACA brand is still being produced by the same people as when Brian was overseeing things, to my eyes from the images and info given the brand is still being cut to the highest standards as always.

 

[tulips]

Hi... i am not an expert.. but i am thinking why is the arrow at 11 oclock shorter than the rest?

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 9/4/2009 2:45:27 PM
Author: tulips
Hi... i am not an expert.. but i am thinking why is the arrow at 11 oclock shorter than the rest?

It could be the stone is slightly tilted, its a good image.

Back to you Dinamit, just let us know if you need any more help!

 

[tulips]

i c...

when i find my choices (likely to narrow down to 2), I shall ask you all for advise too...

may i ask.. how are GOG''s RB compared to ACA and how are infinity stones compared to ACA?

 

[jet2ks]

Glad to help, dinamit. You are most definitely not weird, as I like the look of diamonds in the I-J-K range over colorless also. (Unless, I, too am weird and we are not going there

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Date: 9/4/2009 2:45:27 PM
Author: tulips
Hi... i am not an expert.. but i am thinking why is the arrow at 11 oclock shorter than the rest?

If you are referring to the James Allen IS, the diamond was tilted when the photo was taken (11 o''clock would be the higher side). If the diamond had been square to the camera, the arrows would all be of similar length.

 

[jet2ks]

Date: 9/4/2009 2:51:48 PM
Author: tulips
i c...

when i find my choices (likely to narrow down to 2), I shall ask you all for advise too...

may i ask.. how are GOG's RB compared to ACA and how are infinity stones compared to ACA?

GOG's hand selected Signature H&A and Infinity diamonds are on the same level of "superideal" cut and peformance as ACA's.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 9/4/2009 2:51:48 PM
Author: tulips
i c...

when i find my choices (likely to narrow down to 2), I shall ask you all for advise too...

may i ask.. how are GOG's RB compared to ACA and how are infinity stones compared to ACA?

Tulips, I hope you don't mind me mentioning this but it might be best if you have any questions to post them in your own thread please? Otherwise it gets confusing for the original poster in their thread, thanks!

 

[dinamit]

Thanks Lorelei. There is a cloud plotted on the ACA cert too, which is what got me worried in the first place. Please excuse my ignorance, but I don''t understand what sets the two clouds apart, ie why is one grade making and the other not?

Traci from Whiteflash tells me that it is a spectacular, eyeclean diamond and that I will love it. I am still waiting to hear from the JA gemmologist on the other one.

D.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 9/4/2009 3:03:13 PM
Author: dinamit
Thanks Lorelei. There is a cloud plotted on the ACA cert too, which is what got me worried in the first place. Please excuse my ignorance, but I don't understand what sets the two clouds apart, ie why is one grade making and the other not?

Traci from Whiteflash tells me that it is a spectacular, eyeclean diamond and that I will love it. I am still waiting to hear from the JA gemmologist on the other one.

D.

Not ignorant at all! They are both grade setting clouds, the ACA is a hand selected branded h&a from WF which will have been carefully inspected and screened to include the cloud, it will not be an issue otherwise this stone would not be representing the ACA brand. With the JA diamond it has probably been screened too but I am not familiar with their procedures, hence my advice to check with them and to get their gemologist or other expert to evaluate the stone concerning the cloud. JA are a good vendor and will give you an honest opinion on the cloud.

 

[tulips]

oophs.. okie okie...

sorry dinamit...

 

[dinamit]

Oh wow, having posted my last reply, I just noticed the other posts. SO, thanks for your comments and input Jet2 and StoneCold, I really appreciate you giving your time to this. I am glad to find out there are quite a few of us who prefer near colourless, or slightly warmer diamonds too.

I will check over the two certs again, as it appears I might be missing something, but I think a cloud appears as first in line on both certs. If that''s the case, I think the reputation of ACAs would swing it for me.

D.

 

[dinamit]

No probs Tulips!

Gosh, you guys are fast...

 

[dinamit]

Lorelei and Jet2,

I need some more help! Could you spare a few moments please? Sooo...still looking. I decided against the JA diamond as it''s colourless, and I don''t want that. As you already know, I am a little concerned about the grade setting cloud in the ACA (I will have another chat with WF once the holidays are over, as I don''t feel I got all the info I want on this stone).

In the meantime, I came across this GOG H&A that looks really appealing, and I like that it''s an ''H''.

So what do you guys think?
I haven''t seem that many diamonds in real life and can''t tell what the higher crown and the smaller (54.9%) table of the GOG will look like in comparison to the ACA 56.2%. How does this impact the diamond visually?
Also, is there a very noticable difference between a G and an H in very well cut stones? Would the H be more similar to an I or a G?

I am sorry to ask so many questions...I wish I had somewhere to go to compare ideal cut stones in a variety of colours but there aren''t many places that I can think of in London.

So here are the GOG stats:
0.61ct H SI1
5.42 x 5.46 x 3.36
Table: 54.92
Depth: 61.77
Crown: 34.17
Pavillion: 40.78
Scores 0.9 on the HCA (the ACA scored 1.4)

link: http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/6206

I''ll call GOG to find out more about how eyeclean the stone is, but so far I haven''t found any comments along the lines of ''additional grade setting clouds not shown'' however I have still to view the full report.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 9/6/2009 6:29:04 AM
Author: dinamit
Lorelei and Jet2,

I need some more help! Could you spare a few moments please? Sooo...still looking. I decided against the JA diamond as it's colourless, and I don't want that. As you already know, I am a little concerned about the grade setting cloud in the ACA (I will have another chat with WF once the holidays are over, as I don't feel I got all the info I want on this stone).

In the meantime, I came across this GOG H&A that looks really appealing, and I like that it's an 'H'.

So what do you guys think?
I haven't seem that many diamonds in real life and can't tell what the higher crown and the smaller (54.9%) table of the GOG will look like in comparison to the ACA 56.2%. How does this impact the diamond visually? Wouldn't be much if any difference visually between them concerning these measurements.
Also, is there a very noticable difference between a G and an H in very well cut stones? Would the H be more similar to an I or a G? No difference to my eyes between the two colour grades with direct comparison.

I am sorry to ask so many questions...I wish I had somewhere to go to compare ideal cut stones in a variety of colours but there aren't many places that I can think of in London.

So here are the GOG stats:
0.61ct H SI1
5.42 x 5.46 x 3.36
Table: 54.92
Depth: 61.77
Crown: 34.17
Pavillion: 40.78
Scores 0.9 on the HCA (the ACA scored 1.4)

link: http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/6206

I'll call GOG to find out more about how eyeclean the stone is, but so far I haven't found any comments along the lines of 'additional grade setting clouds not shown' however I have still to view the full report.

It looks great Dina! Looks like the report hasn't been loaded yet to see the clarity plot but you are in excellent hands with Jon, he will tell you if any of the inclusions are a potential problem ( unlikely).

Don't worry about the HCA scores either, it is just used for elimination not selection and a lower score is not better than a higher one, scores below 2 are considered worth further evaluation thats all with this tool.

 

[stone-cold11]

Ditto.

 

[dinamit]

I am glad the GOG diamond has your approval Lorelei and Stone-Cold

I looked up the report on the AGS website, but as you say, couldn''t see the full report. Maybe Jon will be able to email a copy.

Now it''s a matter of waiting until Tuesday...seems long!

Thanks to you both.

D.

 

[dinamit]

Oh! I am sorry to go on...I know it''s up to personal preferances, but out of curiosity, do you prefer one stone over the other?

For me, it will depend on the eye cleanliness. The GOG is quite a bit cheaper too, but it is slightly smaller and one grade lower, which I don''t mind.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 9/6/2009 7:19:47 AM
Author: dinamit
I am glad the GOG diamond has your approval Lorelei and Stone-Cold

I looked up the report on the AGS website, but as you say, couldn''t see the full report. Maybe Jon will be able to email a copy.

Now it''s a matter of waiting until Tuesday...seems long!

Thanks to you both.

D.

Jon will be able to send the report to you no problem, I take it the diamond is on hold for you?

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 9/6/2009 7:25:08 AM
Author: dinamit
Oh! I am sorry to go on...I know it''s up to personal preferances, but out of curiosity, do you prefer one stone over the other?

For me, it will depend on the eye cleanliness. The GOG is quite a bit cheaper too, but it is slightly smaller and one grade lower, which I don''t mind.

You are not going on!

Either would be great, it would depend for me on the '' eyecleanliness'' too.

 

[stone-cold11]

If you like the price and everything, go for it. :p

 

[dinamit]

LOL Lorelei, I can''t help myself looking at that bunny! I want to read your words, I really do, but my eyes just keeping moving to the left...

Yes, the stone is on hold for me, they both are. I''ve learned to that. I suppose I should feel lucky, but it''s hard to choose between two great looking stones. Hopefully, having a chat next week will make this a lot easier. Will let you know.

Enjoy the rest of your weekends both of you, and thanks!

D.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 9/6/2009 7:40:24 AM
Author: dinamit
LOL Lorelei, I can''t help myself looking at that bunny! I want to read your words, I really do, but my eyes just keeping moving to the left...

Yes, the stone is on hold for me, they both are. I''ve learned to that. I suppose I should feel lucky, but it''s hard to choose between two great looking stones. Hopefully, having a chat next week will make this a lot easier. Will let you know.

Enjoy the rest of your weekends both of you, and thanks!

D.