Tiffany Harmony Replica

[Victor Canera]

The level of symmetry depends on the craftsman I guess. There’s a mis-conception though that CAD\CAM pieces are perfectly symmetric. Anything that has a human element to it is not going to be perfect. After an item goes through the casting process it actually needs to be cleaned and filed down. This can cause asymmetry.

Diamond aficionados here critique extremely fine nuances in optical symmetry of round diamonds. Most of the time, a super ideal cut diamond is recommended even though from a manufacturing aspect, it takes more planning, a master cutter and lower yield from rough to produce diamonds at that level. There is an understanding that they cost more.
Well, the same thing comes into play in jewelry too. There is a difference between hand fabricated and cast. Based on my decades doing this, a hand fabricated ring is almost always going to be a better quality than a cast one. There is a slight premium inherent in the process.

To clarify, my post wasn’t to say a person should definitely go ahead with a hand fabricated item. My point was to say that people should understand the differences between the two processes. There are differences even with seemingly simple designs. Look at the cost to benefit equation for their situation and then make a decision. If the only priority is budgetary, the decision is an easy one. If there is value in the points that I’ve made above in a consumer’s eyes, then hand fabricated jewelry might be a much better option.

Good luck

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Sorry Victor, I didn't think you'd make an exact copy of a branded ring which is what he is asking for. you. But if you will, then he could get this diamond and have $2000 left for the setting if he pays by wire.

https://www.victorcanera.com/diamonds/7ypxtu-1.081-f-vs1-ideal-hearts-arrows-round

 

[Victor Canera]

Sorry Victor, I didn't think you'd make an exact copy of a branded ring which is what he is asking for. you. But if you will, then he could get this diamond and have $2000 left for the setting if he pays by wire.

https://www.victorcanera.com/diamonds/7ypxtu-1.081-f-vs1-ideal-hearts-arrows-round

I wouldn’t make an exact replica of a unique design. I was just trying to speak to the process differences that the OP was asking about in the beginning.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Okay, I just want him to know that I highly respect you and would recommend all the rings you make! But if he is absolutely set on having that Tiffany ring reproduced, he is going to need to ask David Klass, probably.

 

[Victor Canera]

And the OP is extremely lucky to have prosumers like @diamondseeker2006 and @rockysalamander @LLJsmom and others (please forgive me if I didn't mention your name) to help them.
You guys, by giving your time and graciously helping people are what make this community such an amazing place.

 

[platinumharmony]

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And the OP is extremely lucky to have prosumers like @diamondseeker2006 and @rockysalamander @LLJsmom and others (please forgive me if I didn't mention your name) to help them.
You guys, by giving your time and graciously helping people are what make this community such an amazing place.

I completely agree. Thank you all for all your help and diamond suggestions. They look great!

I think I will think about this, but I am starting to lean towards hand forged. I don't think I have to have an exact replica, but moreso a similar style. Small differences to make it better would probably be possible.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Here are two lovely solitaires by Victor that would work within your budget. He has some others but they may be similar in price and some are more expensive. You'd have to ask pricing on the ones without price listed.

https://www.victorcanera.com/rings/engagement/classic-solitaire-pre-mount

https://www.victorcanera.com/rings/engagement/the-gabriella-raised-band-pre-mount

This one is basket style which is related to the style you were looking at:

https://www.victorcanera.com/rings/engagement/classic-solitaire-with-cathedral-band

I love this one:

https://www.victorcanera.com/rings/engagement/cathedral-band-solitaire-with-scalloped-basket

I actually like every one of his solitaires more than the Harmony, but you need to be certain that her heart is not set on a Harmony repro. If she just casually mentioned that was a nice setting, then I think you're fine with choosing another style.

 

[platinumharmony]

Here are two lovely solitaires by Victor that would work within your budget. He has some others but they may be similar in price and some are more expensive. You'd have to ask pricing on the ones without price listed.

https://www.victorcanera.com/rings/engagement/classic-solitaire-pre-mount

https://www.victorcanera.com/rings/engagement/the-gabriella-raised-band-pre-mount

This one is basket style which is related to the style you were looking at:

https://www.victorcanera.com/rings/engagement/classic-solitaire-with-cathedral-band

I love this one:

https://www.victorcanera.com/rings/engagement/cathedral-band-solitaire-with-scalloped-basket

I actually like every one of his solitaires more than the Harmony, but you need to be certain that her heart is not set on a Harmony repro. If she just casually mentioned that was a nice setting, then I think you're fine with choosing another style.

Those are very nice!

I think her heart is sent on most of its characteristics. For example, she likes the arch of the harmony better than other rings for sure. She also likes more simplistic rings without the extra diamonds or extra fancy baskets. She likes the lower profile since she's in the medical profession. She also loves the taper on the harmony. I know she doesn't like the taper being extremely sharp like the whiteflash legato sleek line, but somewhat similar to the harmony. It's a very nice design because it seems to get slightly thicker but then tapers off very nicely. Looks great in person. That's why I want to custom make it with atleast those things and then I can make small changes like the prongs, and slightly different width. I don't know if that'd be considered a replica.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I don't think making the prongs more claw-like and making it slightly thinner is a different design.

 

[platinumharmony]

I don't think making the prongs more claw-like and making it slightly thinner is a different design.

Do you know typically how different a ring would need to be to not be a replica? I assumed as long as it wasn't exactly the same it was fine. Because I've seen lots of designs from different jewelers which are quite similar, with only minor differences.

 

[Mixtress]

Do you know typically how different a ring would need to be to not be a replica? I assumed as long as it wasn't exactly the same it was fine. Because I've seen lots of designs from different jewelers which are quite similar, with only minor differences.

Don't quote me on this one but if I remember correctly, I have read on this forum before that a setting needs to be roughly 20% different to be considered a different design. Although, I absolutely agree with you, there are so many different design houses/brands with similar rings. There's only so much you can do, especially for a simple solitaire. The Tiffany Setting itself is replicated by many designers.

Have you seen Victor Canera's Trueste solitaire? It is quite nice and similar style to the Harmony.
https://www.victorcanera.com/rings/the-trueste-solitaire

Or if you have time, you can peruse through this thread. Lots of options for beautiful simple solitaires!
https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/post-your-favorite-plain-solitaire-setting.164906/

 

[Gussie]

I think you need to talk to the designer about making it close enough that you are satisfied but different enough that it is not an exact copy.

 

[platinumharmony]

Don't quote me on this one but if I remember correctly, I have read on this forum before that a setting needs to be roughly 20% different to be considered a different design. Although, I absolutely agree with you, there are so many different design houses/brands with similar rings. There's only so much you can do, especially for a simple solitaire. The Tiffany Setting itself is replicated by many designers.

Have you seen Victor Canera's Trueste solitaire? It is quite nice and similar style to the Harmony.
https://www.victorcanera.com/rings/the-trueste-solitaire

Or if you have time, you can peruse through this thread. Lots of options for beautiful simple solitaires!
https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/post-your-favorite-plain-solitaire-setting.164906/

I did see the trueste. I think I like it as the base ring. Slightly thinner basket + changing how the ring swoops up + a taper would bring it real close to how I want it. I think it'd be similar to the harmony, but it'd still be slightly different.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

You just need to contact Victor, because he is the only one who can say how close he is willing to make the ring to the Tiffany Harmony.

If you have him make the e-ring, you'd also want him to make the wedding band, but I would not under any circumstances do that until you know for sure the e-ring is the right size. Th e-ring should be perfect to very slightly loose in hot weather because it is going to fit a little tighter with a second ring. Both will be looser in cold weather, but you don't resize.

 

[platinumharmony]

You just need to contact Victor, because he is the only one who can say how close he is willing to make the ring to the Tiffany Harmony.

If you have him make the e-ring, you'd also want him to make the wedding band, but I would not under any circumstances do that until you know for sure the e-ring is the right size. Th e-ring should be perfect to very slightly loose in hot weather because it is going to fit a little tighter with a second ring. Both will be looser in cold weather, but you don't resize.

I will do that. Thank you!

 

[joedwaltz]

Did this project ever pan out? Curious if there are any pictures of the final product. I am in a very similar situation trying to find someone to make the same ring.