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shalalala

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First post here~
Trying to buy an engagement ring from Tiffany and here are the few ones that I'm interested in:

Carat Color Clarity Price(before tax)
0.99 I VS1 11600
1.03 G VVS2 16500
0.81 F VVS2 10200
1.12 H VS1 15700
0.91 H VS2 11300
0.97 E VS2 15100

Do you know among these guys, which rings are good deals?

I'm now leaning towards the 0.81 one as it looks to be the shiniest and cheapest among them.. or the 0.91 one, not likely to spent more than 15000 for over 1 carat..

Appreciated for your comments!
 
Are you set on the Tiffany brand? Because we can find you a diamond that performs as well or better for much less money (or vice versa you can get a larger stone for the same budget).
 
the information you gave isnt really enough to give an opinion on any of them.

Tiffany's is a high premium for something you could replicate almost exactly for cheaper and better. But if you are set on it then you are set on it. ;)

If you want us to give an opinion on the stones though you have to provide us with more information. The gia numbers from the certs would help.

but in general, there is no real practical reason to pay for that high of clarity, you are literally paying for something you cannot see. And I would go down in color, how low will Tiffany let you go, an H? An H VS2 should let you get a larger stone for your price, but you would also want it to be well cut. cut is most important
 
in my humble opinion there is no good deal at Tiffany you are paying for the name. They appraise and grade their own stones. So if its Tiffany you want go for it their stones are gorgous and that's why you pay top dollar
 
If you want, people will take your budget and look for the BEST stone you can get for your money. You can then have it set in a tiffany replica type setting. If it's really Tiffany that your gal wants, and all I had was the info you posted - I'd go for the .99 ctw- basically a carat, but without the 1 carat premium (but with the Tiffany premium, of course).
 
heididdl|1368909474|3449664 said:
in my humble opinion there is no good deal at Tiffany you are paying for the name. They appraise and grade their own stones. So if its Tiffany you want go for it their stones are gorgous and that's why you pay top dollar
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+1 And the recent buyer stories on some of the other boards and blogs on the Internet are saying, consistently, that Tiffany is offering (consistently offering) only deep diamonds that face up a but small for carat weight, and "60/60" type diamonds that are shallower and have large table and are cut more biased toward brilliance at the expense of fire. Don't go to Tiffany thinking that it is a shortcut for buying the perfect-cut diamond with little effort. If anything, you might have to do more research and evaluating and gruntwork to choose the best option from a limited number of stones, and more "number-crunching" and analysis than if you'd just worked with one of the major vendors here.

Tiffany is also not very forthcoming with all of the data that you'd want to have to plug into the HCA cut adviser here, to help you evaluate the cut.

Tiffany is a premium-priced brand name, but their stones don't seem to be the best-of-the-best cuts lately. It's up to you, but I think you could get a better-performing diamond from one of the Pricescope vendors for less money. And Vatche makes a Tiffany replica solitaire that is pretty equivalent to the actual Tiff solitaire.

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10627/ 1.01 G VS2 $8300 for the stone itself, top cut grade, then maybe (just guessing) $2200 -$3000 for the Vatche mounting? You can ask the PS vendors for quotes, too, and / or work with them to locate the stone that meets size and budget and other requirements that you have. If she insists on an genuine Tiffany ring, then look at the "HCA cut adviser" here, under Tools at top of page, and try to get table %, depth %, crown angle, pavilion angle.
 
shalalala|1368902587|3449626 said:
First post here~
Trying to buy an engagement ring from Tiffany and here are the few ones that I'm interested in:

Carat Color Clarity Price(before tax)
0.99 I VS1 11600
1.03 G VVS2 16500
0.81 F VVS2 10200
1.12 H VS1 15700
0.91 H VS2 11300
0.97 E VS2 15100

Do you know among these guys, which rings are good deals?

I'm now leaning towards the 0.81 one as it looks to be the shiniest and cheapest among them.. or the 0.91 one, not likely to spent more than 15000 for over 1 carat..

Appreciated for your comments!
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You won't know if any of them is the "shiniest" because color and clarity isn't going to tell you if they're well cut. So I would say NONE is a good deal. Get all the info from the report, if they will give it to you: Crown Angle (not percent, you want the angle!), Pavilion Angle (again, not percent, you want the angle! they have a habit of giving percents to avoid the real number), Table% and Depth%, and then we can help you figure out which if any are cut well.

I will say, I am on the aforementioned "other boards" and I see a lot of specs on their stones in an attempt to weed out the yes's and no's from their selection...and I have seen VERY few that are anywhere near worth paying for. And that's AFTER you pull the SA's teeth to get the data, as they're usually pretty closed off about that. Hell you don't even get the report with the plot til almost a month after you pay for the ring! They generally (not always, but generally) select deep stones that do not have the diameter that should go with the carat size, so you're paying for a stone of one size but really getting a smaller one bec all the weight is lost in the depth.
 
Well I like the 1.12 H VS1 because your girlfriend will kick you when she finds out you went with .8 rather than 1.1 carats. That's a fairly significant size difference.

But yes, my personal choice would be to take your 15k or whatever and buy an ideally cut diamond, preferably around G/H VS1/VS2, from somewhere else.
 
If the ring has to come from Tiffany's, we'd want to see the actual measurements for each stone from the grading reports to tell you which would likely be the best cut. But from the info provided, these stones range from $10k-16k and what we need to know is your actual budget. Because if your budget is at the high end, then I choose the 1.12 H VS1. If your budget is at the low end, then get the .91 H VS2. Under no circumstances would I doubly overpay by looking at any VVS clarity stones.

(But as others said, you can get a larger stone, better cut, and set it in a better replica of the Tiffany solitaire setting and have the same look but a nicer, larger diamond!)
 
Hiya OP, everyone has given you some great advice! My .2 cents is that If your girlfriend really wants a Tiffany ring and her circle of friends all have Tiffany rings.. I would suggest to stick with Tiffany. I would get the 1.1 H one :) based on the info you provided.

I would personally go and buy a bigger diamond from some of the preferred vendors on pricescope but that's cause I want to get value for money and I don't mind if its not Cartier, Tiffany or De Beers.
 
Totally agree with other posters. If her friends are all wearing Tiffany, then its more a reason to do something different. How romantic it is if you hand picked the diamond then have it set in a custom made setting by a renowned master! ;)
 
OP has not weighed in, so we are talking among ourselves. Until OP weighs in and lets us know what he thinks of the suggestions, there is nothing more to be said.
 
none of the above are good deals. If you are looking for nice quality stones, forget about Tiffany's.

You are paying way over and not getting the cream of the crop. If branding is important to you, that's when you shop at Tiffanys. For better quality in terms of cut, try the other online vendors here.
 
Thanks for all your replies!

Like one of you said, I agree that Tiffany is over-priced.. but I really have no choice here as she wants a Tiffany.. so I'll have to choose one from Tiffany
 
So I tink I'll forgot about those over 1 carat and only consider the rest smaller stones:

0.99 I VS1 11600
0.81 F VVS2 10200
0.91 H VS2 11300

So among these 3, which one would be a better value? I know the 0.99 cut is very good in symmetry and the other two are all excellent
 
shalalala|1368981357|3450021 said:
So I tink I'll forgot about those over 1 carat and only consider the rest smaller stones:

0.99 I VS1 11600
0.81 F VVS2 10200
0.91 H VS2 11300

So among these 3, which one would be a better value? I know the 0.99 cut is very good in symmetry and the other two are all excellent
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like we said, color and clarity is not going to tell us if the stone is well cut, which is the most important thing. can you get other stats about the stone?
 
Do you have the mm measurements and the table, depth, pav, crown angles? I would take the ex ratings over vg.

I know she wants Tiffany. But have you asked her if she rather have Tiffany or half a carat bigger?
 
Tiffany can be a bit difficult for second hand and not necessarily recommending it. I was browsing for a friend and this is what I sent him. But we decided to go a different direction.

Here are some that scores under 2.0 on HCA.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TIFFANY-CO-1-04-CARAT-DIAMOND-PLATINUM-RING-H-VS1-/400489809502?pt=US_Fine_Rings&hash=item5d3f0d865e

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tiffany-Co-Platinum-Solitaire-Diamond-Engagement-Ring-NIB-/321118166599?pt=Diamond_Solitaire_Rings&hash=item4ac4225e47

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tiffany-Co-Platinum-1-02ct-H-VS2-Diamond-Engagement-Ring-/200898520467?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec67c2593

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tiffany-Co-PLAT-Round-Diamond-Solitaire-Ring-G-VS2-90CT-/221038312217?pt=US_Fine_Rings&hash=item3376e8fb19

This one isn't so hot but uniqueness factor for the setting. I don't often see this on eay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TIFFANY-CO-EMBRACE-ENGAGEMENT-DIAMOND-RING-1-18TCW-CERTIFICATE-SIZE-5-/281072092246?pt=Diamond_Solitaire_Rings&hash=item417133c456
 
They didn't allow me to take the info sheet with me but I calculated all the HCA scores and only the 0.91 carat one is below 2.
 
shalalala|1369000773|3450146 said:
They didn't allow me to take the info sheet with me but I calculated all the HCA scores and only the 0.91 carat one is below 2.
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that would be my choice, closer to 1ct than the .8, and a less pricy H VS2 grade
 
shalalala|1368981144|3450019 said:
Thanks for all your replies!

Like one of you said, I agree that Tiffany is over-priced.. but I really have no choice here as she wants a Tiffany.. so I'll have to choose one from Tiffany
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:errrr: ...better buy her a Tiff before she ask for a Harry Winston E-ring... :wink2:
 
There you go .. choice is made :)
 
Damn, Harry Winston rings are so expensive...
 
The blue box and the brand do have their appeal!

Since you are going to spend some serious $ there, is it at all possible that you ask the salesperson to find you more diamonds based on specs that you give them? I'd be interested to see what are the biggest dimension G and H VS2 (or SI1 if you are ok with eyeclean S1) stones that they can find within your budget. I am sure I've seen someone posted Ideal cut specs ranges here, and perhaps the salesperson can use that as reference in the search too? Just a thought if you haven't made up your mind about which stone yet. :wink2:
 
I'll try to get them.
 
shalalala|1369026321|3450283 said:
I'll try to get them.
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Get what?...You mean the Harry Winston ring?
 
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