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Thoughts on this stone. Aset and Image, (no idealscope :( )

thebigjdoe

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Been looking for a bit, this one looks decent for the price but didn't get an idealscope: Around $7500

GIA
1.1x ctw
VS2
H
Cut: Excellent
Crown Height : 15.5
Crown Angle : 36
Pavilion Angle : 40.6
Depth: 61.90%
Table: 57.00%
Girdle:
Medium to Medium
Culet: None
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Fluorescence:None

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Re: Thoughts on this stone. Aset and Image, (no idealscope

Beautiful diamond. Everything looks right, including the price.
 
Re: Thoughts on this stone. Aset and Image, (no idealscope

teobdl|1403056342|3695417 said:
Beautiful diamond. Everything looks right, including the price.


Why do some ASET images show a red dot in the middle, and some have a green dot? Does it matter that there is no idealscope? would that be something i should request? (it's a PS vendor who says the stone is beautiful)
 
Re: Thoughts on this stone. Aset and Image, (no idealscope

The pavilion angle changes from red to green at 40.77 or something like that. if it's 0.05 below that, the center is green; if it's 0.05 above, it's red. The transition point is really exactly where you want your pavilion angle to be, so tha'ts why sometimes it's red and other times it's green. It doesn't matter.
 
Re: Thoughts on this stone. Aset and Image, (no idealscope

Ok, great info. I'm wondering why this stone is this price. it's cheaper than all the other "H & A" stones from various vendors especially since it is over 1.1ctw...
 
Re: Thoughts on this stone. Aset and Image, (no idealscope

It's probably not part of their branded line because of a high crown. I don't know if there is a guarantee of hearts and arrows. For those two reasons, it would drop the price below a branded H and A. Could be other reasons as well, but information you provided leads me to believe this is a really, really excellent diamond.
 
Re: Thoughts on this stone. Aset and Image, (no idealscope

teobdl|1403059324|3695452 said:
It's probably not part of their branded line because of a high crown. I don't know if there is a guarantee of hearts and arrows. For those two reasons, it would drop the price below a branded H and A. Could be other reasons as well, but information you provided leads me to believe this is a really, really excellent diamond.

Excellent. Thanks a bunch! It does actually say "Hearts and Arrows" in the title! Might just put this one on hold :)

Anyone else, feel free to chime in
 
Re: Thoughts on this stone. Aset and Image, (no idealscope

Looks pretty to me!
 
Re: Thoughts on this stone. Aset and Image, (no idealscope

thebigjdoe|1403059981|3695461 said:
teobdl|1403059324|3695452 said:
It's probably not part of their branded line because of a high crown. I don't know if there is a guarantee of hearts and arrows. For those two reasons, it would drop the price below a branded H and A. Could be other reasons as well, but information you provided leads me to believe this is a really, really excellent diamond.

Excellent. Thanks a bunch! It does actually say "Hearts and Arrows" in the title! Might just put this one on hold :)

Anyone else, feel free to chime in
without a heart photo they can call it what ever they want....still no proof!
 
Re: Thoughts on this stone. Aset and Image, (no idealscope

Dancing Fire|1403065605|3695509 said:
thebigjdoe|1403059981|3695461 said:
teobdl|1403059324|3695452 said:
It's probably not part of their branded line because of a high crown. I don't know if there is a guarantee of hearts and arrows. For those two reasons, it would drop the price below a branded H and A. Could be other reasons as well, but information you provided leads me to believe this is a really, really excellent diamond.

Excellent. Thanks a bunch! It does actually say "Hearts and Arrows" in the title! Might just put this one on hold :)

Anyone else, feel free to chime in
without a heart photo they can call it what ever they want....still no proof!

Would a highly recommended PS vendor put hearts and arrows in the title without it? I honestly don't know, and really don't know what it means haha.... Just symmetrical hearts?

DF what do you think about the ASET? Thanks!
 
Re: Thoughts on this stone. Aset and Image, (no idealscope

Dancing Fire|1403065605|3695509 said:
thebigjdoe|1403059981|3695461 said:
teobdl|1403059324|3695452 said:
It's probably not part of their branded line because of a high crown. I don't know if there is a guarantee of hearts and arrows. For those two reasons, it would drop the price below a branded H and A. Could be other reasons as well, but information you provided leads me to believe this is a really, really excellent diamond.

Excellent. Thanks a bunch! It does actually say "Hearts and Arrows" in the title! Might just put this one on hold :)

Anyone else, feel free to chime in
without a heart photo they can call it what ever they want....still no proof!

Would a highly recommended PS vendor put hearts and arrows in the title without it? I honestly don't know, and really don't know what it means haha.... Just symmetrical hearts?

DF what do you think about the ASET? Thanks!
 
Re: Thoughts on this stone. Aset and Image, (no idealscope

you dont need IS if you get ASET

a guarantee of hearts and arrows doesnt mean very much since HA is not a defined term. Some vendors have their own requirements and are stricter than others. I would not consider this a "true" HA looking at the images.

the crown angle is high for most branded HA, which leads to reduced price

also the contrast pattern looks a little strange to me, and it cannot be explained by camera tilt.

the arrows are not straight enough in my opinion and i doubt the hearts would show up nicely looking at the face.

I would not treat this as a near HA or similar to avoid disappointment

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-4836841-1.11-carat-Round-diamond-H-color-VS2-Clarity.aspx?sku=4836841&utm_source=pricescope.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pricescope.com

http://www.gia.edu/cs/Satellite?pagename=GST%2FDispatcher&childpagename=GIA%2FPage%2FReportCheck&c=Page&cid=1355954554547&reportno=5166979604

This one costs a little more (assuming you are wiring) but seems to have higher optical symmetry to me.

check the cloud for reduced brilliance etc.
 
Re: Thoughts on this stone. Aset and Image, (no idealscope

proto|1403066517|3695515 said:
you dont need IS if you get ASET

a guarantee of hearts and arrows doesnt mean very much since HA is not a defined term. Some vendors have their own requirements and are stricter than others. I would not consider this a "true" HA looking at the images.

the crown angle is high for most branded HA, which leads to reduced price

also the contrast pattern looks a little strange to me, and it cannot be explained by camera tilt.

the arrows are not straight enough in my opinion and i doubt the hearts would show up nicely looking at the face.

I would not treat this as a near HA or similar to avoid disappointment

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-4836841-1.11-carat-Round-diamond-H-color-VS2-Clarity.aspx?sku=4836841&utm_source=pricescope.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pricescope.com

http://www.gia.edu/cs/Satellite?pagename=GST%2FDispatcher&childpagename=GIA%2FPage%2FReportCheck&c=Page&cid=1355954554547&reportno=5166979604

This one costs a little more (assuming you are wiring) but seems to have higher optical symmetry to me.

check the cloud for reduced brilliance etc.

So if you were to spend $7.5k to $8.25ish k would you avoid the diamond in my OP?
 
Re: Thoughts on this stone. Aset and Image, (no idealscope

It looks great. No worries.
 
Re: Thoughts on this stone. Aset and Image, (no idealscope

JulieN|1403067148|3695520 said:
It looks great. No worries.

Haha, I guess I'm wondering if I will be able to get better for my money. Sorry, I'm the worst at making decisions....
 
Re: Thoughts on this stone. Aset and Image, (no idealscope

thebigjdoe|1403067086|3695518 said:
proto|1403066517|3695515 said:
you dont need IS if you get ASET

a guarantee of hearts and arrows doesnt mean very much since HA is not a defined term. Some vendors have their own requirements and are stricter than others. I would not consider this a "true" HA looking at the images.

the crown angle is high for most branded HA, which leads to reduced price

also the contrast pattern looks a little strange to me, and it cannot be explained by camera tilt.

the arrows are not straight enough in my opinion and i doubt the hearts would show up nicely looking at the face.

I would not treat this as a HA or similar to avoid disappointment [edited]

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-4836841-1.11-carat-Round-diamond-H-color-VS2-Clarity.aspx?sku=4836841&utm_source=pricescope.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pricescope.com

http://www.gia.edu/cs/Satellite?pagename=GST%2FDispatcher&childpagename=GIA%2FPage%2FReportCheck&c=Page&cid=1355954554547&reportno=5166979604

This one costs a little more (assuming you are wiring) but seems to have higher optical symmetry to me.

check the cloud for reduced brilliance etc.

So if you were to spend $7.5k to $8.25ish k would you avoid the diamond in my OP?

Hard to say because I am not sure what your budget/objectives are and which factors are more important.

Your diamond may also be a 1.19 or a 1.10, which makes a difference. We also don't know the spread of the diamond

If you just want a nice shiny diamond, there would be nothing wrong with this at all. Hard to go into price specifics without additional details listed above.

If you wanted a proper HA (and want to be able to see the arrows), I would continue looking.
 
Re: Thoughts on this stone. Aset and Image, (no idealscope

I'd buy it! Checks all the important boxes, and that's what matters. The rest isn't eye visible to the average person, so why bother!
 
Re: Thoughts on this stone. Aset and Image, (no idealscope

To be clear, there absolutely is nothing wrong with that ASET and nothing about the information you provided raises flags. The pavilion/crown angle combo works and the ASET shows that. It's a fantastic diamond.
 
Re: Thoughts on this stone. Aset and Image, (no idealscope

thebigjdoe|1403068020|3695523 said:
JulieN|1403067148|3695520 said:
It looks great. No worries.

Haha, I guess I'm wondering if I will be able to get better for my money. Sorry, I'm the worst at making decisions....

Unless you are against a clock to make a decision, you can never do enough comparative window shopping.

I spent close to 6 weeks researching and looking at prices etc.

I have bought and purchased my diamond weeks ago, but I still occasionally look around my budget to see what else I may have purchased instead.
 
Re: Thoughts on this stone. Aset and Image, (no idealscope

Wow thanks to everyone !! Ok, Well I have been looking for about a month... And reading PS threads daily.

Lets say it's in the lower range of 1.1x, under 1.15 range but above 1.12 :)

For mind clean I want:

Eye clean for sure
H is fine ( got the ixnay on I or above )
Must bling :)
Must be 1ctw+ so 1.1+ is a bonus
Will be set in a halo setting, still deciding on cathedral or whatever non cathedral is called
Still deciding on a flush mount or slightly sitting above the halo

Love that all you experts think it is a good option!

Edit: its 6.6ish x 6.6ish x 4.1ish mm
 
Re: Thoughts on this stone. Aset and Image, (no idealscope

thebigjdoe|1403066458|3695513 said:
Dancing Fire|1403065605|3695509 said:
thebigjdoe|1403059981|3695461 said:
teobdl|1403059324|3695452 said:
It's probably not part of their branded line because of a high crown. I don't know if there is a guarantee of hearts and arrows. For those two reasons, it would drop the price below a branded H and A. Could be other reasons as well, but information you provided leads me to believe this is a really, really excellent diamond.

Excellent. Thanks a bunch! It does actually say "Hearts and Arrows" in the title! Might just put this one on hold :)

Anyone else, feel free to chime in
without a heart photo they can call it what ever they want....still no proof!

Would a highly recommended PS vendor put hearts and arrows in the title without it? I honestly don't know, and really don't know what it means haha.... Just symmetrical hearts?

DF what do you think about the ASET? Thanks!
Looks good to me... :appl: how about a photo of the hearts?
 
Re: Thoughts on this stone. Aset and Image, (no idealscope

good question. I wonder if they would send me a hearts image. I guess it doesn't hurt to ask :)

If this is the stone I go with, I need to find a setting and fast....

Was digging the ritani french set halo, but the gf isnt sure about the depth of the band, as in, how far the band itself sits off the finger. Wondering if I should go custom, or try to find something that she likes.

Custom scares me in that it is final sale, and can't see it on the finger before it's purchased.... hhmmmm
 
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