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jobu77

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Options.
If you like any of them, PUT THEM ON HOLD while you ask for a copy of the report. Lurkers buy stuff we recommend all the time.

Cut on this one isnt perfect and we would need to see the report, but it has potential and hits the size you want. I color will show some tint, but not a ton.


Cut looks great, but J color so will show some tint.

My personal favorite bc the cut is nice, but again will show body color bc it's a J

Colorless, but would want to see the certificate to understand the inclusions. Also its .91

I was shopping around James Allen abs found this one. Does this look OK? Thanks for all the help btw. https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-10385729
 

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jobu77

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Thank you so much everyone for the help. I'm back to square one. There's a diamond recommended by lovedogs I'm close to getting, but I did one final search online and pulled up a few more. Wanted to get people's thoughts on these. Any help would be appreciated. Thank You!
 

jobu77

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Finally, I found these 2 on James Allen. With the GIA report attached. Thanks!
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Thank you so much everyone for the help. I'm back to square one. There's a diamond recommended by lovedogs I'm close to getting, but I did one final search online and pulled up a few more. Wanted to get people's thoughts on these. Any help would be appreciated. Thank You!

Both of these are virtual inventory and have no pics. So these arent the super ideal stones folks talk about when they recommend WF. I wouldnt recommend anything without pics/video
 

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Finally, I found these 2 on James Allen. With the GIA report attached. Thanks!
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Definitely no to the F as it isnt well cut at all. Table bigger than depth is always a bad sign. The H is ok. Deeper than we recommend and crown steeper than we recommend.
 

DejaWiz

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@jobu77 keep in mind that WF virtual inventory diamonds are not eligible for their upgrade program...only their in-house diamonds.

I'm not liking the proportions of the JA diamonds. :(
 

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OP it would be really helpful if you knew the color tolerance of the intended. An ACA from WF in a J color will sparkle plenty. I wouldn't necessarily go to a J in a stone that wasn't super ideal but if you can figure out if they are color tolerant you can skip the E, F, G, H stones and maybe go down to a J. There are two or three WF ACAs in a J that might work if the color works. But if they are color sensitive, they might not. here is one.

 

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If you decide to take a chance on one of the WF VS diamonds: I'm loving the measurements and angles of both!

#2 (40.6° PA with 35.0° CA) a bit more.
 

jobu77

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Hi, here’s a James Allen diamond I got from Love Dogs earlier as promising but need more info. I got the GIA report and wanted to see if it’s a good one. Thanks! 0AB56572-F16A-4B6C-B784-1D803CDB9671.jpeg
 

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Hi, here’s a James Allen diamond I got from Love Dogs earlier as promising but need more info. I got the GIA report and wanted to see if it’s a good one. Thanks! 0AB56572-F16A-4B6C-B784-1D803CDB9671.jpeg


Diamond Screener Cut Estimator places it as GIA EX and just barely out of AGS Ideal.
Overall, I really like the proportions and look of this one - a LOT!
 

jobu77

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So... I tried to buy this diamond it falls just out of my price range after taxes. I'm still considering it, but I wanted to vet this cheaper option I found on James Allen. It has a crown angle of 36, but it fell just within the parameter on the diamond screen cut estimator. I found another thread where a diamond with this parameter might have problems? Also, I'm not sure about anything else I miss? If this is no good, I'll try to find the extra $$ for the other one, but this price range feels more comfortable. Thanks!
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lovedogs

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So... I tried to buy this diamond it falls just out of my price range after taxes. I'm still considering it, but I wanted to vet this cheaper option I found on James Allen. It has a crown angle of 36, but it fell just within the parameter on the diamond screen cut estimator. I found another thread where a diamond with this parameter might have problems? Also, I'm not sure about anything else I miss? If this is no good, I'll try to find the extra $$ for the other one, but this price range feels more comfortable. Thanks!
cert (2).jpeg

I'm not a fan of this one :( Looks like the clouds are impacting the transparancy, and the steep crown plus 80% lowers is creating some leakage (I think, unless someone else knows a better reason why I think there's leakage).
 

Lookinagain

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@jobu77 please put the other stone on hold. you make no commitment in doing that and if you are still considering it, you don't want someone to buy it out from under you.
 

jobu77

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Hi, thank you for the response.
I entered the parameters in Blue Nile in my price range and this is the only one that popped up. Unfortunately, they do not have a 360 view of this, so it's only a photo. Should I stay away?
 

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DejaWiz

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Hi, thank you for the response.
I entered the parameters in Blue Nile in my price range and this is the only one that popped up. Unfortunately, they do not have a 360 view of this, so it's only a photo. Should I stay away?

Amazingly, this one scores both GIA X and AGS Ideal in the Cut Estimator:


I would recommend you request advanced images to verify that there are no outlying issues, such as light leakage.
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jobu77

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Hi,
So the PriceScope concierge sent me a list of diamonds. I went through, looked at the videos, entered everything in the cut estimator, and saw these 3 that could be promising. Wanted to get takes if people have time. Thanks!
I'm waiting on the GIA for this one:
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lovedogs

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Hi,
So the PriceScope concierge sent me a list of diamonds. I went through, looked at the videos, entered everything in the cut estimator, and saw these 3 that could be promising. Wanted to get takes if people have time. Thanks!
I'm waiting on the GIA for this one:
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Definitely rule out the 1.01. "Clarity is based on clouds not shown" = PASS, especially in SI1/SI2 stones, as it means the stone will look cloudy.

I really like the B2C option! Looks extremely nice. I would put that one on hold while you wait for the report.
 

jobu77

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Here's the GIA on the B2C. Everything looks great except for the medium flourescence. Will this be an issue? Screen Shot 2021-07-26 at 10.09.09 AM.png
 

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Fluorescence is very rarely an issue and seemingly only more frequently (still rarely) in very colorless stones (D, E). B2C might be able to tell you if the Fluor is impacting transparency, but since the inclusions don’t list a bunch of clouds, I think it’ll be fine.
 

jobu77

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Thank you! I put this on hold. I appreciate everyone's help. I'm excited to give this to my girlfriend and start our next chapter together. I really can't thank everyone enough.
 

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I will say that I1 graded diamonds can be beautiful.

@Jax172, you are absolutely correct. I sold many of them during the first 30 years of my career. They are much harder to sell on line though, as the I1 is SCARY on a report. When someone is sitting in my office and not looking at the report, it has little to no scare factor as they believe their eyes.

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