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Thoughts? 2.51 ct J/SI1 Triple X

newtothis1123

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Hey all,

I've just started looking at engagement rings and am at the point where I'm getting completely overwhelmed. A local jeweler who I was very impressed with just found this diamond and is having it sent to his store from India. My total budget is about $23,000. This seemed like a great idea at first, but now I'm really having second thoughts if this is a great diamond for me. It's a GIA J/SI1 triple X. He claims that the rep in India says that it's really a beautiful stone, but I'm worried about the tiny knot in it (which he says can be easily "pronged"). Am I stupid for going this low in terms of color to get something in the 2.50ct range, or should I drop down the size to get a little higher quality diamond? Thanks so much for all of your help. This website is a great source of info and I'm hoping that someone can help me out! BTW he's offering this stone on a channel band in platinum w/ approx .40-.50 cts on the band for $23,000.

Thanks so much!

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Hi - Can you post the GIA cert? I personally have no problem with "eye clean" SI1s (I have a 3.25ct SI1) as I don't want to pay for clarity that I can't see anyways. But, many people want "mind clean" and feel more comfortable with VS. I would look at diamond and decide from there on clarity. As far as color, again it is what you are comfortable with. I bought a 2.3ct diamond a few years ago in a J and the tint bothered me. It faced up white but the side view really showed the tint in my setting. I ended up returning it and getting an I. Again, see what you think of the color in person. There is always give and take in diamonds and the color/clarity combo you are looking at is definitely fine based on your personal taste. The most important thing in your purchase is the cut and how much the diamond sparkles!!!! I would definitely focus on that aspect, which is why the GIA cert would be helpful. Have you ran the GIA angles through the HCA tool https://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca ? Good luck!
 
Hi bmgdesign,
I felt strongly about this post and wanted to respond because it kinda seems like you're "poo-pooing" this stone without all of the info, and I don't quite understand why... I don't want to come across as being negative, so please don't take it that way. I was a little shocked by some of the comments...


bmgdesign|1372720600|3475667 said:
Oh Gosh...I wouldn't do it; though it doesn't appear to be a horrible diamond -- a GIA XXX J SI1 is far from horrible, so I'm not really sure where you're coming from in this comment. :confused:

I'm thinking this is too high of a price for it. On the contrary, this price is about right on. It may not be the "rock bottom" of wholesale diamond prices, but definitely not out of the question. Here is a JA search with the OP's criteria:

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-dia...00&PriceTo=28000&Sort=Price asc, DefaultOrder

Some vendors can be unfortunately unscrupulous; especially when dealing with newbies. Why do you feel this vendor to be "unscrupulous". It certainly looks like an SI1 (with a tiny flaw in the perfect spot, at that!) ;)) Granted, I'm no expert and don't have the angles and percentages, but I think it looks very clean from the photo (which is blown up like crazy). The only thing I would only wonder about is if the OP would mind a J color... Please do tell me if I'm missing something big here! :lol:


For one, I highly suggest you NOT go forth with an immediate purchase of a J/SI1 for $23k, when you could, say, for instance get a 2.1ct I/SI1 XXX for about $6k less from the highly reputable diamond vendor,such as James Allen. This is true, but at almost a 1/2 carat difference, it's not like you're comparing apples to apples here. A 2.1 to a 2.5 is a big jump, in size, as well as price.

In fact, there is such a diamond on his site presently, so your color would be improved... at 8.2mm diameter (or so) you'll not really be forfeiting much size for quality -- Only one color higher and a 1/2 carat smaller seem like a lot, IMHO. My "first diamond" was a XXX I/SI2 (though totally eye clean) at 8.14mm and my "now diamond" is a XXX J/SI1 (again, completely eye clean) -- the difference in size is substantial visually, to say the least... I had some difficulty telling the two colors apart when placed side by side, but the J was just every so slightly more tinted from the side. (Mine was to be set in a halo, so it didn't affect me at all. :D ) Maybe I'm not as color sensitive?? Who knows?? :confused:

In addition, your vendor's addition of the platinum setting; do you know the specs on that? Because I will tell you, when vendors begin throwing in freebies to entice a sale, that could be a red flag...you're not buying a used car here ;) -- I totally agree with you here, as I am skeptical of the whole, "you don't pay less, we give you more" sale pitch

Also; at an SI1 grade, this diamond you have posted has more than just one tiny "knot" I suspect. The image itself looks ever so slightly blurry, which will mask tiny inclusions quite successfully.-- I didn't think it was blurry at all (am I going blind here?? :lol: ) Inclusions that can't be seen at the above magnification WILL NOT be seen with the unaided eye. Veteran PS'ers have recommended tons of diamonds that showed more obvious inclusions at a lower magnification that were proven to be eye clean. :)) I guess the OP needs more info to feel comfortable.

If you noticed that the diamonds on the links provided have visible inclusions when highly magnified; however, as their GIA report states, none with a lower clarity grade than SI1... -- the OP said the GIA report was SI1, not lower, so why is this an issue? ...so...as before, I know I am not speaking just for myself when I strongly encourage you to look into purchasing from the likes of the PS's top picks...
 
Hey newtothis123! :wavey: First of all, CONGRATULATIONS! :bigsmile:

I wanted to try to address some of your concerns... (IMO, of course) :halo:
Just remember, you came to the right place!! As bmg said, there are many experienced PS'ers here that will be more than happy to help!


newtothis1123|1372703313|3475470 said:
Hey all,

I've just started looking at engagement rings and am at the point where I'm getting completely overwhelmed. A local jeweler who I was very impressed with just found this diamond and is having it sent to his store from India. My total budget is about $23,000. This seemed like a great idea at first, but now I'm really having second thoughts if this is a great diamond for me. It's a GIA J/SI1 triple X. He claims that the rep in India says that it's really a beautiful stone, but I'm worried about the tiny knot in it (which he says can be easily "pronged"). As shown, the photo suggests that the tiny flaw is in a perfect spot to prong.

Am I stupid for going this low in terms of color to get something in the 2.50ct range, or should I drop down the size to get a little higher quality diamond? Only you (and your FF) can determine what is best for you, or if the color will bother you. You should go to some jewelers that carry GIA stones and look at the J's when compared with I colors. Personally, it was totally worth it to me to trade one color (I to J) for size! (from a XXX 2.01 I/SI2 to a XXX 2.43 J/SI1... Admittedly, I'm a size whore :lol: , but in all seriousness, the J didn't bother me at all -- the last thing you think when you see it is "yellow" -- I do have a halo setting, so the sides are not exposed like they might be in a more "open" setting)

Thanks so much for all of your help. This website is a great source of info and I'm hoping that someone can help me out! BTW he's offering this stone on a channel band in platinum w/ approx .40-.50 cts on the band for $23,000. I don't particularly like this sales tactic, but it doesn't necessarily mean the diamond's not legit. Could you ask him if he would lower the price a little without the platinum band?? ;))

Can't wait to see what you decide!! Good luck!! :D
 
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! Seriously, thank you all for your great responses. It was killing me not to get on and respond back last night, but the FF might have gotten suspicious :)

I have attached the GIA report.

In fairness to the jeweler, he said that he normally won't go below an I color and eye clean SI2, but that their representative in India said that this was a truly beautiful diamond. I've been really impressed with him so far - he's been nothing but honest and after suggesting a few diamonds from the store's other locations has said not to bother to come in because they didn't meet his minimum specs. He has also voiced concerns about going down to a J, and I was actually the one that inquired about it after seeing another J diamond at a different store (that sold the day after I looked at it) that after comparing it to an I color I couldn't tell the difference.

As for the band, I guess that's kinda my fault - I told him my budget was about $23,000 all in (although now if it would be beneficial I could increase to $24k for a great diamond) and said what a few other stores had offered. I realize that it's really my personal preference as to how "warm" the diamond will be. I know that my FF is more concerned with size, although she is a size 5 ring and a small girl, so I feel like anything over 2.25cts will look massive on her finger. I also don't want to compromise so much that she's constantly wondering if the diamond is tinted.

Is my budget realistic in terms of getting everything I want for under $24,000? Or am I just missing the mark here?

Also, should I be really concerned about the knot? If it can be perfectly "pronged" is it not a big deal?

The diamond will be in later this week/early next week and I will take a look at it then, but I want to make sure that I'm not being stupid here and should rather be looking at something like a GIA 2.30ct G/SI2 w/ Excellent cut. Should I ask him in the meantime what else he can have brought in at that range?

Also, is it smart to stay away from florescence? One of the stores I was at showed me what florescence does in blacklight and I hated the way it glowed, so I've been trying to avoid it.

Thanks again for everything - it is so much appreciated!!!! I thought I had this figured out, although now I feel like I'm back at step one. We're going on a vacation Aug 30, so I have to have the ring by that time.

Sorry for such a long post but thank you again for the help.

Any suggestions/advice/scolding me is certainly appreciated!!!!

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I have had a 2.0 K SI1 AGS certed triple 0 and now have a 3.02 J SI1 GIA triple Ex, both absolutely eye clean with both of mine being the best cuts I couldn't see any color in either, wait until you have it in hand to see what your eyes tell you.
 
newtothis1123|1372768543|3475967 said:
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! Seriously, thank you all for your great responses. It was killing me not to get on and respond back last night, but the FF might have gotten suspicious :)

I have attached the GIA report.

In fairness to the jeweler, he said that he normally won't go below an I color and eye clean SI2, but that their representative in India said that this was a truly beautiful diamond. THIS IS GREAT!! :appl:

I've been really impressed with him so far - he's been nothing but honest and after suggesting a few diamonds from the store's other locations has said not to bother to come in because they didn't meet his minimum specs. He has also voiced concerns about going down to a J, and I was actually the one that inquired about it after seeing another J diamond at a different store (that sold the day after I looked at it) that after comparing it to an I color I couldn't tell the difference. I'm so glad you got to see a well-cut GIA J in person and be able to compare to I colors. =) Does your GF know you're looking at diamonds? If so, I'd let her look at the J and see if she's color sensitive (just don't take her to the mall!) :lol: I know you can't tell a lot from photos and everyone's screen is different, but I will attach some pics of my stone (2.43 GIA XXX, J/SI1). I will say that depending on what type of setting you/she wants will make a difference. My halo helps mine appear more white, even when paired with G/H melee. What type of setting are you looking for?



As for the band, I guess that's kinda my fault - I told him my budget was about $23,000 all in (although now if it would be beneficial I could increase to $24k for a great diamond) and said what a few other stores had offered. I realize that it's really my personal preference as to how "warm" the diamond will be. I know that my FF is more concerned with size <---- a gal after my own heart! LOL I felt the exact same way!! People tell me all the time how "white and bright" my diamond is!!... although she is a size 5 (me too!) ring and a small girl (wish I was a small girl, but I'm, ahem, *healthy* :lol: ) , so I feel like anything over 2.25cts will look massive on her finger. I also don't want to compromise so much that she's constantly wondering if the diamond is tinted. I totally understand! My advice would be not to get hung up on the color grade -- I would show her two or three J's alongside some I's and don't tell her which is which... if she thinks they are all equal and is happy, then all is well. Sometimes I think it's psychological, and knowing your stone is a "lower color" can make you see tint (or at least look for it). If she is uneasy after viewing, then you know to go to an I color. :)

Is my budget realistic in terms of getting everything I want for under $24,000? Or am I just missing the mark here?

Also, should I be really concerned about the knot? If it can be perfectly "pronged" is it not a big deal? If the photo posted is of the actual stone, I wouldn't worry about that flaw one bit. If it's gonna have a flaw, it's in the perfect spot for sure!

The diamond will be in later this week/early next week and I will take a look at it then, but I want to make sure that I'm not being stupid here and should rather be looking at something like a GIA 2.30ct G/SI2 w/ Excellent cut. Should I ask him in the meantime what else he can have brought in at that range? I would focus on the visual of each stone (as in light return and mm size). I don't think a 2.3 and a 2.5 will be drastically different size-wise, unless maybe viewed side by side. Ask your jeweler if he would mind getting several stones in that are within your budget and just compare. You may be surprised what speaks to you! =)

Also, is it smart to stay away from florescence? I would LOVE for my stone to have fluorescence, since it tends to make lower colors appear whiter (and I just think it's cool anyway)!! As long as they can confirm that it has no negavtive effect, I think finding a J w/ fluoro would be the perfect combination! One of the stores I was at showed me what florescence does in blacklight and I hated the way it glowed, so I've been trying to avoid it. <---- edit: Ooops, then no fluoro for you. LOL

Thanks again for everything - it is so much appreciated!!!! I thought I had this figured out, although now I feel like I'm back at step one. We're going on a vacation Aug 30, so I have to have the ring by that time. I'm so excited for you! Can't wait to see the ring!!

Sorry for such a long post but thank you again for the help. No problem! This site is so full of valuable information - I know you will find a diamond that is awesome and will blow your FF away!


BTW, your GF is very lucky to have you! I think it's great that you care enough to research in order to give her what she wants and what you both will be proud of -- and a very generous budget to boot!!

Oh! The photos!

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^on a sunny day (super white!)
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^this is the most tinted it ever looks (worst case scenario) LOL

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^how it looks pretty much all the time

Hope this helps! =)
 
autumngems|1372770175|3475989 said:
I have had a 2.0 K SI1 AGS certed triple 0 and now have a 3.02 J SI1 GIA triple Ex, both absolutely eye clean with both of mine being the best cuts I couldn't see any color in either, wait until you have it in hand to see what your eyes tell you.
<--- this is so true.

Wowza, autumngems!! A 3+ carat is my DREAM!! :love: :love: Have you posted photos of it?? I'd love to see it!
 
Thank you for the great response (and I must say - beautiful ring!). Unfortunately I couldn't upload pics of the setting, but here is a link: http://www.tiffany.com/Engagement/Item.aspx?GroupSKU=GRP10016 . She likes the 6 prongs, so I'm wondering if that might help with the color a bit.

We had an initial consultation together (after I had seen the jeweler already - but he suggested it to find out about prongs, max width, etc), and then I told her that she was kicked out of the process! Although I'm wondering now if I end up liking the J if I can make up a story about how the jeweler got this in for someone else but wanted to see what we thought (or something along those lines). I just want to make sure that it's the perfect ring for her! (This is when being a perfectionist is not good.)

Another jeweler commented that the based on the table, crown angle, and pavilion in the GIA report that "These ranges are well outside the ideal range for light return thus this means the diamond will trap body color and with it already being J in color it will be on the very warm side." Does anyone have any thoughts on this? This was like reading a foreign language. I know that so much of this is going to just come down to how it looks, but since it won't come in until next week and my deadline of Aug 29 to get the ring back, I just want to make sure I cover all my bases (hence my mini freak-outs).

Thanks again!
 
newtothis1123|1372785371|3476072 said:
Thank you for the great response (and I must say - beautiful ring!). Unfortunately I couldn't upload pics of the setting, but here is a link: http://www.tiffany.com/Engagement/Item.aspx?GroupSKU=GRP10016 . She likes the 6 prongs, so I'm wondering if that might help with the color a bit.

We had an initial consultation together (after I had seen the jeweler already - but he suggested it to find out about prongs, max width, etc), and then I told her that she was kicked out of the process! Although I'm wondering now if I end up liking the J if I can make up a story about how the jeweler got this in for someone else but wanted to see what we thought (or something along those lines). I just want to make sure that it's the perfect ring for her! (This is when being a perfectionist is not good.)

Another jeweler commented that the based on the table, crown angle, and pavilion in the GIA report that "These ranges are well outside the ideal range for light return thus this means the diamond will trap body color and with it already being J in color it will be on the very warm side." Does anyone have any thoughts on this? This was like reading a foreign language. I know that so much of this is going to just come down to how it looks, but since it won't come in until next week and my deadline of Aug 29 to get the ring back, I just want to make sure I cover all my bases (hence my mini freak-outs).

Thanks again!


Thank you and you're welcome! :)) FWIW, I had mini freakouts daily when it came to my ring, so it's totally ok! ;)) It's good that you want to get the best stone within your budget -- she will appreciate that!!!

Regarding the setting... six prongs would be better than 4, but you will see more of the side than in a halo or something similar. I love 6 prong settings, but I'm not sure how I would feel about my J in it... I would definitely have her see this with a J -- BUT AN EXCELLENT CUT WITH GREAT LIGHT RETURN! :bigsmile: Guess I would just have to see it to be sure.

I am worried about the comment from the other jeweler... You really need great light return for a whiter-looking stone in the I/J/K range. Hmmmm.... I am at work now and can't pull up the GIA cert to even look at it. Could you provide all the specs? (sorry, my work computer is a POS, if you know what I mean... :rolleyes: ) Hopefully someone else will chime in and give their assessment. I would be interested in what some of the veterans on PS have to say. I think they would say no.

Have you thought about buying from another vendor like JA, WF, or GOG? Those are trusted PS vendors and will most likely have a more extensive inventory to pick from... Just a thought... :)
 
Here are the stats:

Measurements: 8.77 x 8.81 x 8.32 mm
Cut: Excellent
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Table: 59%
Crown angle: 32
Pavilion: 41.2

Are those the measurements that you're talking about? Sorry, I'm looking at the GIA report and that thing just confuses me more!

I have been looking at some of those online retailers but I'm kinda hesitant to buy a diamond sight unseen, although I'm going to give JA a call now and see what they have.

Thanks again!
 
Depth %?
 
which number is that?
 
I think it is 60.5%.

Just wait until it gets here to see for yourself.
 
Think the depth must be 5.32 mm not 8.32 mm. Makes for a 60% depth percentage (more or less).
 
newtothis1123|1372791673|3476123 said:
Here are the stats:

Measurements: 8.77 x 8.81 x 8.32 mm
Cut: Excellent
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Table: 59%
Crown angle: 32
Pavilion: 41.2

Are those the measurements that you're talking about? Sorry, I'm looking at the GIA report and that thing just confuses me more!

I have been looking at some of those online retailers but I'm kinda hesitant to buy a diamond sight unseen, although I'm going to give JA a call now and see what they have.

Thanks again!

https://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca

This is a link to the HCA calculator. You'd need the depth % as well...

I have been thinking about your choice of setting (6 prong) and the color issue... I think you may be happier and more at ease if you shoot for an I instead of a J. However, if you could find a J with fluoro, that may work too. It really just depends on how color sensitive you and your FF are...

I think calling James Allen would be a really good idea at this point, esp since you have a deadline to meet. I know you feel hesitant about "sight unseen" diamonds -- let's face it, spending that kind of money is scary anyway!! -- but the other PS recommended vendors (GOG, JA, WF, IDJ, etc...) seem very honest and customer service oriented. I would personally trust any of these vendors for myself, and in the unlikely event you receive a diamond and don't just love it for any reason, they always accept returns. :appl:

I have never seen bad diamond they've recommended, nor have I read where they have steered someone wrong... Sometimes they will actually tell the client a stone isn't great and suggest several others. I have even seen [read] JA recommend another diamond that is equal in all things except price -- less expensive and better value! You don't find that very often... :))
 
Hi all,

Thanks so much for all the responses - I appreciate it so much!

The diamond actually came in much earlier than expected so I had the chance to see it last night - it was beautiful! The jeweler said it was one of the best SI1's that he's seen, and is definitely a J-plus. He showed me it compared to a variety of GIA stones - an I, H, and an F. The F was also 2.50cts (and double the price) and I couldn't detect any difference from the top down, and there was a slight color difference from the side - but ever so slight. The knot seemed like a complete non-issue - I couldn't even find it when he gave me the scope. It wasn't until he showed me exactly where it was that I was even able to see it - and even then it was a struggle.

I told him that it was beautiful but that I was still a little concerned about buying such an expensive diamond if my GF might not absolutely love it, so he suggested that I bring her buy. We crafted a little white lie to get her in the shop. (That he called out of the blue and suggested that she look at some J's to get a little more size - but that this diamond was already sold. We've already been there to just "look" so it's not as strange as it seems!) So we'll have to see what she says. But he was great in terms of saying that if she didn't like it then he will start looking at other options.

I'm going to explore some options with JA, although I live chatted with someone from their website yesterday and can't say I was blown away by their knowledge.

Will continue to update!
 
newtothis1123|1372856698|3476532 said:
Hi all,

Thanks so much for all the responses - I appreciate it so much!

The diamond actually came in much earlier than expected so I had the chance to see it last night - it was beautiful! The jeweler said it was one of the best SI1's that he's seen, and is definitely a J-plus. He showed me it compared to a variety of GIA stones - an I, H, and an F. The F was also 2.50cts (and double the price) and I couldn't detect any difference from the top down, and there was a slight color difference from the side - but ever so slight. The knot seemed like a complete non-issue - I couldn't even find it when he gave me the scope. It wasn't until he showed me exactly where it was that I was even able to see it - and even then it was a struggle.

I told him that it was beautiful but that I was still a little concerned about buying such an expensive diamond if my GF might not absolutely love it, so he suggested that I bring her buy. We crafted a little white lie to get her in the shop. (That he called out of the blue and suggested that she look at some J's to get a little more size - but that this diamond was already sold. We've already been there to just "look" so it's not as strange as it seems!) So we'll have to see what she says. But he was great in terms of saying that if she didn't like it then he will start looking at other options.

I'm going to explore some options with JA, although I live chatted with someone from their website yesterday and can't say I was blown away by their knowledge.

Will continue to update!


That's so wonderfull!!! :appl: :appl: The diamond looked great from the image, so if she likes it -- SOLD!! Great plan, BTW. :naughty: Can't wait to hear about her reaction!!!

That's the thing with J's... they can look white (high J) or more tinted (low J) - but since cut is most important, I think you've hit a homerun with this one! Fingers crossed for you!! GOOD LUCK! :appl:
 
bmgdesign|1372812859|3476309 said:
@msop04: my apologies...I was, in no way, intending to come off as negative, I'm sorry that my response seemed shocking; as your latest response just indicated, this too was my intention, rather :). No worries, though, I was just trying to provide newbie with a more reputable online diamond vendor, for, most importantly, his own security. Vendors can be awfully convincing of their product; although, by reading the GIA dossier, this looks on paper to be a good one :)!! It is just soooo important to be able to see diamonds in person...especially at this price ;)

No worries! :))
 
I have often recommeded J colors to those with other more important criteria, such as carat weight and clarity. Most people do not really detect color in diamonds from the face up presentation until color approaches J. Color in diamonds is judged when viewed through the pavilion of the stone, not through the table. Here is something important to consider: not all gemological labs grade color in the same way! For a little perspective, I recommend reading this article:
http://www.jckonline.com/2013/06/10/diamond-grading-labs-using-different-standards-survey-finds
 
diamond_concierge|1372887576|3476899 said:
I have often recommeded J colors to those with other more important criteria, such as carat weight and clarity. Most people do not really detect color in diamonds from the face up presentation until color approaches J. Color in diamonds is judged when viewed through the pavilion of the stone, not through the table. Here is something important to consider: not all gemological labs grade color in the same way! For a little perspective, I recommend reading this article:
http://www.jckonline.com/2013/06/10/diamond-grading-labs-using-different-standards-survey-finds

This is very true. As long as we're talking about GIA or AGS, I think you're safe. Esp since it's a GIA XXX, and you were told it's a high J. :appl: However, like diamond_concierge said, most stones will face up white up until you reach K, and if there is any tint, it will show from the side. K seems to be where I start to notice warmth. (BTW, some PS'ers have K stones that face up pretty white...) =)

I think you'll have your answer when you GF gets to look at it. Make sure to look at it in as many different lighting situations as possible. Some of the harshest lighting is in the car on a sunny day.
 
On a side note...

I love how a J throws out so many colors -- it looks so rich to me! (Don't get me wrong, I love an icy white diamond, but... I'd rather have size!!) ;)
 
Just wanted to let everyone know that the ring came in today and I'm going to go look at it after work. I will try to take some pictures! Now on to the insurance.

Thanks again so much for all of the help!! I appreciate it so much.
 
Congrats!
 
I've been enjoying this thread and managed to copy and paste the GIA cert in Word, then zoom in on it. The depth % is indeed 60.5, putting the HCA at 2.1.

Good luck tonight!
 
Everything that I've read seems to say 0-2 is a good HCA. Do you personally think that a 2.1 is good? I guess it's too late now, but figured I should ask anyway!

Thanks!
 
Yes that's true, and I'm sorry to post that with no commentary. I'm not an expert so I want to defer to anyone else who may want to chime in on this HCA number.
 
I can't wait to see the ring! I am curious if you ended up taking your GF to look at the color before you purchased? I wouldn't worry about the HCA, it is just a weeding tool and it doesn't mean a diamond won't be gorgeous if over 2. Seeing it person is the best judgement of performance!! Please come back and post pictures!!!
 
newtothis1123|1375881663|3498192 said:
Everything that I've read seems to say 0-2 is a good HCA. Do you personally think that a 2.1 is good? I guess it's too late now, but figured I should ask anyway!

Thanks!


2.1 will be fine. I use HCA as a guide to find stones I might be interested in. If the diamond performs to your liking in person, it doesnt matter if it is 2.1 or 1.2.
 
I actually did. I told her the jeweler had called me and said he just got in a diamond that we should see but that it was already sold. He just wanted us to see that if we dropped down in the color a bit we could get something larger. She went for it and said she did indeed think the diamond was great (not knowing that was the one I looked at). It was a great way to get confirmation. Although I have to say I'm still nervous today about going to see it. I think I've spent too much time on these boards!
 
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