The search continues- no luck with my 4ct stone!

[samanthalee]

Has anyone used #1 dimaond source- an on line internet site?

http://www.1diamondsource.com/service/options.htm

Stilll working on whitflash-

Guys, is there any other source?

I found one at Kleins, and the guy lied and said it was GIA certified, but when I wanted to get it appraised, he told me he sold it!

What a nasty business!

Help.

 

[Skippy123]

Never heard of them. Have you contacted Good Old Gold too? And Wink Jones of Winfield''s?

 

[mrssalvo]

i've never heard of them either. are you still looking for a princess? GOG and wink are good suggestions. I would also try Icemine and pearlmans as well who also both sell AGS0 princess stone.

 

[samanthalee]

No, I will call them today.

I am still working on whitflash, I think the thing is I don''t like my sales lady. I don''t think she cares about my diamond. I am going to visit them myself and see if I can get someone else. I just don''t have chemistry with her. Do these guys work on comission?
thanks for the other names.

I saw the movie Blood Diamonds yesterday,and I almost changed my mind about the diamond- I''m ok today- I still want one.
Thanks

 

[Ellen]

What gives you the impression your SA isn''t that interested?

 

[february2003bride]

Date: 1/23/2008 2:57:01 PM
Author: samanthalee
No, I will call them today.

I am still working on whitflash, I think the thing is I don''t like my sales lady. I don''t think she cares about my diamond. I am going to visit them myself and see if I can get someone else. I just don''t have chemistry with her. Do these guys work on comission?
thanks for the other names.

I saw the movie Blood Diamonds yesterday,and I almost changed my mind about the diamond- I''m ok today- I still want one.
Thanks

Well, when you post a title of "Why Whiteflash doesn''t make any sense" there is the small possibility that they may feel slighted

I don''t know your budget, but here is a 3.21 princess signature cut from Blue Nile:
http://www.bluenile.com/diamonds_details.asp?__fun_frm=i&track=btntext_viewselect&elem=img&pid=LD00982851&filter_id=0

 

[Sparkalicious]

Date: 1/23/2008 3:51:58 PM
Author: february2003bride

Well, when you post a title of ''Why Whiteflash doesn''t make any sense'' there is the small possibility that they may feel slighted

Feb2003bride -- Excellent point. Especially since WF has been known to go above and beyond for their customers.

Sammy -- I have dealt with Traci for my own personal purchase and she was outstanding to deal with ... Additionally, I have encountered Leslie and she is quite attentive. From what I understand, however, the entire team is outstanding. If you feel that the service you are receiving is less than satisfactory, articulate your displeasure and I am sure that if a correction is due, one will take place. After all, everyone, at one time or another, has fallen victim to a bad day.

Good luck with your continued search.

 

[vslover]

I was sorta thinking that the Whiteflash thread could have had something to do with the problem too. :-/

 

[ringabling]

Date: 1/23/2008 2:57:01 PM
Author: samanthalee
No, I will call them today.

I am still working on whitflash, I think the thing is I don''t like my sales lady. I don''t think she cares about my diamond. I am going to visit them myself and see if I can get someone else. I just don''t have chemistry with her. Do these guys work on comission?
thanks for the other names.

I saw the movie Blood Diamonds yesterday,and I almost changed my mind about the diamond- I''m ok today- I still want one.
Thanks

ummm, you may not realize this. . . but she''s defintely reading what you wrote. WF SA''s visit here.

 

[february2003bride]

Slee- If you continue working with WF and want to change SA''s, I''ve worked with Bob quite a bit and he''s great. I highly recommend him!

 

[samanthalee]

The whole whitflash discussion is intresting-
I didn''t like the sales lady from the beggining- some people just don''t have chemistry. It seems to me that she just did a basic search didn''t listen to what I wanted and semt me some emails of stones around my price range.

Either Whiteflash is the end all here, or people that work with whiteflash use this site to promote WF- because it seems that I hit a couple of nerves that I did not mean to.

If the sales lady is rude because of what I wrote on whitflash, then it seems to me , she is also not very busy if she has time to read this forum-

Maybe I''m just naive and thought this site was dedicated to people that just love talking and writing about stones and not necessarily for those promoting buisnesses. I have always appreciated everyone''s input and guidance toward this purchase, and because of that I will visit Whitflash myself-
after all- it is all you guys that saved me from that loser Fred Cuellar at DCI- thank you-

But at the end of the day, it seems that WF should wave the fee on transporting stones for potential big accounts- that is how I feel about it-

I''ll do everything you guys suggested, visit WF and look at GOG and Wink Jones, and Icemine and perlmans,

Thanks for the BN link, I love that stone, I just want a DEF-

Any experience with Blue NILE anyone-

 

[mrssalvo]

Date: 1/23/2008 4:36:38 PM
Author: samanthalee



If the sales lady is rude because of what I wrote on whitflash, then it seems to me , she is also not very busy if she has time to read this forum-

well, I agree that it would be silly for WF to be unattentive or whatever b/c of what you posted here. Usually they are very good about taking to heart what consumers say/feel on this forum and going above to make them feel better. there have been sales folks and clients from many vendors that don''t always hit it off, just ask for a different SA, no biggie. I worked with Bob a few years ago and he was great. If you still want to give WF a shot, ask for him. otherwise, there are plenty of other great vendors out there.

 

[Angel7]

I worked with Katie at Whiteflash and she was OUTSTANDING. Mind you, mine wasn''t a "big account" as you put it but she was great and would work with her again in a second!

Best of luck on your search for the ever elusive 4 carat killer diamond!

 

[secondhandnews]

I''m sorry you feel so discouraged but I feel part of the problem is that the size you are seeking is not a commonly found size diamond. And I''m sure it becomes more difficult when looking for a "killer stone" in that size. I have read people looking for months to locate a diamond within their parameters and they weren''t as large as the one you are seeking. Be patient and keep a positive outlook. Your diamond will surface in time! Probably when you are least expecting it!

As for WF, I have worked with Katie several times in the past 2 years and have been more than pleased with the service received each time. In fact, I am working with her at this time. I am not a paid spokesperson. Oh, that I wish I were!! LOL

Good luck and keep us posted on your search for your heart''s desire.

 

[Ellen]

A few thoughts, from my humble view.


1. As pointed out, Samantha, this is a VERY hard size stone to find, especially a well cut one. Be patient, it may take a bit, but it will be well worth it. (If you''re really having a hard time with your current SA, by all means, ask to be put in touch with someone else. But remember, they are searching for a needle in a haystack)

2. I don''t think Samantha''s previous thread is the problem. That wasn''t really anything personal against WF, she just used them as an example to make her point.

3. I seriously doubt WF would hesitate to make a sale of this size over a rather innocuous thread.

Just my .02. However, I could be wrong, it happens.

 

[Regular Guy]

Date: 1/23/2008 3:51:58 PM
Author: february2003bride

Well, when you post a title of ''Why Whiteflash doesn''t make any sense'' there is the small possibility that they may feel slighted

It''s easy to think lots of things. I''ve wondered if part of the reason for the new reminder about the forum rules wasn''t associated with my comment in your previous thread.

Re Wink Jones and Ice Mine...though they have independent channels...I''d still check with an important source for both...Infinity. See about having one custom made.

Also, have you gotten an ASET yet?

Regards,

 

[JohnQuixote]

Date: 1/23/2008 4:36:38 PM
Author: samanthalee

The whole whitflash discussion is intresting-
I didn't like the sales lady from the beggining- some people just don't have chemistry. It seems to me that she just did a basic search didn't listen to what I wanted and semt me some emails of stones around my price range.

Hi Samanthalee,

I looked in your records and you initially mentioned a color range of E-I on the 15th (when you contacted us and first options were sent). After you spoke to your fiancé on the 17th you revised to DEF, so a second set of options was sent. I just wanted to mention the first set was an honest effort to meet your initial parameters. Also, it's pretty difficult to sort and find “cut-worthy” candidates in this size. You can find non-worthy but that's not what we do.

In any event, I wanted to assure you that any chemistry issue is not intentional. I know your rep will be disappointed to hear you’re disappointed, but it's not a problem for you to speak with someone else. We have many consultants, all of whom receive rave reviews, and our staff does not work on commission.

Either Whiteflash is the end all here, or people that work with whiteflash use this site to promote WF- because it seems that I hit a couple of nerves that I did not mean to.

No chance, and that's an important point: It is against forum rules for anyone in the trade to post without disclosure, and no PS seller would endanger their presence here by violating that. As for nerves, the companies who have 'made it' in this tough PS market enjoy past (and hopefully future) clients who are experienced and vocal. Believe me, the same people who lend support can be just as critical when something doesn't seem right. We're blessed with a very intelligent and just community.

But at the end of the day, it seems that WF should wave the fee on transporting stones for potential big accounts- that is how I feel about it-

I posted an explanation to you on page 2 of this thread (you may not have seen the post?). I hope this isn’t part of the ‘chemistry issue,’ as that's a policy matter; out of our consultants' control. As for big accounts, we sure do hope to earn that biz, but we treat every client equally, regardless of purchase amount.

...Maybe I'm just naive and thought this site was dedicated to people that just love talking and writing about stones and not necessarily for those promoting buisnesses.

You’re not naïve at all. In fact, you’re brilliant for finding Pricescope. It’s a place where enthusiasts and professionals with vast knowledge help newcomers explore this (complex!) world of diamonds. We hope you stick around even after you've decided what to do. It's how many of the current regulars started.

Date: 1/23/2008 5:29:30 PM
Author: Ellen

3. I seriously doubt WF would hesitate to make a sale of this size over a rather innocuous thread.

For sure. Actually, we consider that kind of speculation healthy; it keeps us in-touch. Please let us know how we can improve our efforts with you Samanthalee. We value your input and appreciate the time you're spending doing research here and with us.

 

[lisaC]

Sammy perhaps you need to be clear as to what it is you''re looking for and how much you''re willing to spend. Look around some of the higher end places, try a few things on in different shapes and sizes perhaps something will catch your eye and you''ll be better able to articulate what it is you want.

 

[milton333]

Yeah, what bums me out about WF''s referral program is that it doesn''t apply to referrals made on the internet. For all the people I''ve steered their way, they ought to reward me (grumble, grumble). That said, I had an overall very pleasant experience with them. I do think that sometimes the chemistry can be wrong in any sales relationship (the salesperson can really misread you, for one). The level of service at WF by email and phone is not the same as the champagne treatment at Tiffany, that''s for sure, but it''s better than most of the other online dealers I looked at. Knowing that I was getting a quality diamond at a very reasonable price helped to smooth over any incidents, at least for me. It can help if you can be proactive and identify exactly what you want. If you''ve done that, I agree with other posters that there''s not a huge market for the stone you''re looking for, so it may take time for it to become available.

 

[JohnQuixote]

Date: 1/23/2008 6:48:19 PM
Author: milton333
Yeah, what bums me out about WF's referral program is that it doesn't apply to referrals made on the internet. For all the people I've steered their way, they ought to reward me (grumble, grumble). That said, I had an overall very pleasant experience with them. I do think that sometimes the chemistry can be wrong in any sales relationship (the salesperson can really misread you, for one).

We absolutely love referral customers Milton. It's a cornerstone of many businesses in this day and age.

Please see Pricescope policy 5b: i]>>

This rule, established by Pricescope, is to prevent even the appearance of motivations other than free will. We respect the wishes of the PS admin and, in the spirit of freely given testimonials on this forum, our referral benefit is designed for use only with family and friends away from the internet. We appreciate the kind words and hope you feel good about your recommendations, even if thanks is all we can send you here.

 

[samanthalee]

I don''t know what to say. Thank you all for your honest advice and opinions here. I agree with several important points- one of which is that this stone is hard to find (on purpose or accidentally)- the point is- I realize now that I do have to be patient- and patient I will be-

Bob called me from WF- I liked him- it''s not that the other lady wasn''t nice, it''s just that I am only smart enough to know that I can''t do this myself- I need some real help- I mean real help- I need someone that will help me look that knows what they are looking for. Not like these last local jewelers that wasted my time with such badly cut stones, that even I - a moron in the diamond department- blind as a bat - can tell you from a distance - that I wouldn''t wear that 4 carat diamond even if you gave it to me for free-

I mean really , who wants to wear a 4 carat diamond and be embarressed about it?

The search continues, and I thank all of you for the weapons of mass destruction- Knowledge-
I will let you know how it goes-

 

[Ellen]

samantha, I'm glad you have someone you've clicked with. And I'm also glad to see you are aware now of the task at hand. As I said, it will well be worth it in the end. I can't wait to see what you end up with!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

The fact that there is no reward for recommending vendors is what makes this forum so valuable and honest. It would be worthless if people were getting rewards as you''d never know who to believe!

And seriously, Sammy, ideal cut 4 ct. stones are rare. No vendor can instantly have a selection of those for you to look at.

But good luck and please come back with pictures once you decide!!!

 

[Lynn B]

Date: 1/23/2008 6:01:53 PM
Author: JohnQuixote

Date: 1/23/2008 4:36:38 PM
Author: samanthalee

The whole whitflash discussion is intresting-
I didn''t like the sales lady from the beggining- some people just don''t have chemistry. It seems to me that she just did a basic search didn''t listen to what I wanted and semt me some emails of stones around my price range.

Hi Samanthalee,

I looked in your records and you initially mentioned a color range of E-I on the 15th (when you contacted us and first options were sent). After you spoke to your fiancé on the 17th you revised to DEF, so a second set of options was sent. I just wanted to mention the first set was an honest effort to meet your initial parameters. Also, it''s pretty difficult to sort and find “cut-worthy” candidates in this size. You can find non-worthy but that''s not what we do.

In any event, I wanted to assure you that any chemistry issue is not intentional. I know your rep will be disappointed to hear you’re disappointed, but it''s not a problem for you to speak with someone else. We have many consultants, all of whom receive rave reviews, and our staff does not work on commission.

Either Whiteflash is the end all here, or people that work with whiteflash use this site to promote WF- because it seems that I hit a couple of nerves that I did not mean to.

No chance, and that''s an important point: It is against forum rules for anyone in the trade to post without disclosure, and no PS seller would endanger their presence here by violating that. As for nerves, the companies who have ''made it'' in this tough PS market enjoy past (and hopefully future) clients who are experienced and vocal. Believe me, the same people who lend support can be just as critical when something doesn''t seem right. We''re blessed with a very intelligent and just community.

But at the end of the day, it seems that WF should wave the fee on transporting stones for potential big accounts- that is how I feel about it-

I posted an explanation to you on page 2 of this thread (you may not have seen the post?). I hope this isn’t part of the ‘chemistry issue,’ as that''s a policy matter; out of our consultants'' control. As for big accounts, we sure do hope to earn that biz, but we treat every client equally, regardless of purchase amount.

...Maybe I''m just naive and thought this site was dedicated to people that just love talking and writing about stones and not necessarily for those promoting buisnesses.

You’re not naïve at all. In fact, you’re brilliant for finding Pricescope. It’s a place where enthusiasts and professionals with vast knowledge help newcomers explore this (complex!) world of diamonds. We hope you stick around even after you''ve decided what to do. It''s how many of the current regulars started.

Date: 1/23/2008 5:29:30 PM
Author: Ellen

3. I seriously doubt WF would hesitate to make a sale of this size over a rather innocuous thread.

For sure. Actually, we consider that kind of speculation healthy; it keeps us in-touch. Please let us know how we can improve our efforts with you Samanthalee. We value your input and appreciate the time you''re spending doing research here and with us.

With sincere apologies to the OP, this is a threadjack!

John, how DO YOU do those multiple quotes in your posts???! I have tried and tried and simply CANNOT *figger it out*??!!!!

Thank you!

Lynn

 

[mrssalvo]

lynn, i''m not john, but you have to open up 2 windows, hit reply to the post you want to quote and copy that quote, then go the thread you want to add the quote to hit reply and paste it there..does that make sense

 

[JohnQuixote]

I am not sure if sammy can see my posts since she hasn't replied to me in either thread

but I hope she has, as her comments have brought about good discussion.

MrsSalvo's system is good... I am more lazy though, Lynn.

I hit the reply button on sammy's post > quote button (whole quote appeared) > deleted what I didn't want > added first comments under the box > hit quote again (whole quote appeared) > deleted what I didn't want > added second comments under the box > etc.

I remembered I wanted to quote Ellen's post in the same reply so... When I finished my sammy reply I clicked HTML at the bottom of the page (converted it all to code) > copied the code > went back into the thread > hit the reply button on Ellen's post > clicked HTML > pasted the code in > clicked back to normal > put my cursor at the end and hit the quote button (Ellen's quote appeared) > deleted what I didn't want > replied under.

Hmm. Perhaps I am less lazy than I thought. In that case good for me.

 

[Lynn B]

Mrs. S and John,

THANK YOU both so much! YIKES, that sounds compleeeee-cated

-- either way you look at it! I can assure you that I would have NEVER *figgered* that out on my own! (I still might not, even with the excellent tutelage!)

But thank you both so much for your helpfulness.

Threadjack over, back to your regularly scheduled programming!

Lynn

 

[mrssalvo]

Date: 1/23/2008 10:24:13 PM
Author: JohnQuixote


Hmm. Perhaps I am less lazy than I thought. In that case good for me.

hehe John, I assure you, your method doesn't seem any easier to me

my guess, neither of us are lazy when we do all the cutting and pasting, i bet both take the same amount of time/effort. I honestly don't do if very often b/c I truly am lazy

 

[strmrdr]

biggest problem is that 4cts of Unobtainium is likely more available than a very well cut 4ct def princess these days.

samanthalee if you want the royal bumm kissing treatment visit Tiffany and pay for it.
In order too keep prices low online vendors and consumers make some sacrifices. ( i see them as advantages! cuz I hate dealing with sales drones)

 

[:)]

Patience my dear! - A good cut in that size will take quite a while to find - it may take months (no joke!), but in the end you will feel it was worth it! It sounds like you have WF working on it. GOG can also take ''orders'' and go look in the diamond district for your specifications too since they are close by... http://www.goodoldgold.com/FindMeADiamond/